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I really hope that Jagganoth is the bearer of Mind. Just to gently caress with the comments section, which is filled with royalist dogs.
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nimby posted:The same way you shouldn't let death stop you from living, your opponents being invulnerable and immortal shouldn't stop you from killing them. Jagganoth is supposed to be immortal, but Allison doesn't know that  .
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Sep 28, 2020 07:27
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Jagganoth is supposed to be immortal, but Allison doesn't know that Just like Solomon’s mastery of the deadliest martial art in the multiverse is immaterial to defeating him, so to does Jagg’s invulnerability not matter.
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Sep 28, 2020 07:38
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Algid posted:Truly the most FFXIV of comics. Angels' whole deal is having tremendous power they're unable to wield for themselves. Jagganoth is accepted to be invulnerable by the most powerful beings in a world where picking up the multiverse and beating someone over the head with it lies on the scale of possible violence one can inflict, he's probably pretty tough. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 08:36
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Yeah, I think it was mentioned that metatron could wipe out all life in an instant or immediately defeat the demiurges, he's just bound by The Old Law of Koss not to. Huh, I wonder if White Chain 2.0 is bound by the Old Law. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 08:45
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Probably not, I thunk White Chain can be thought of as Unchained now. Also it’d be hilarious if Alison just no-sells Jagganoth and kills him in the first three pages and Jag was a RED herring the whole time.
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Sep 28, 2020 11:54
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akulanization posted:I really hope that Jagganoth is the bearer of Mind. Just to gently caress with the comments section, which is filled with royalist dogs. Considering that Jag is the only demiurge noted to still care about technology and that Jadis was the strongest and most ambitious demiurge pre-blockening, I think him having Mind and her having Blade would make sense also the only way to beat Jag is going to be to change his mind 
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Sep 28, 2020 13:10
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While Jagganoth-Mind fits just fine, Jadis-Blade really doesn't to me. All the demiurges have been in some way trapped by their word of royalty, and while Jadis is very obviously trapped, she does not appear to be trapped in a cycle of carving her will upon the universe. Kind of the opposite.
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Sep 28, 2020 14:11
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ConfusedUs posted:Along the same lines, from Reddit From the reddit discord:  
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Sep 28, 2020 14:18
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Tenebrais posted:While Jagganoth-Mind fits just fine, Jadis-Blade really doesn't to me. All the demiurges have been in some way trapped by their word of royalty, and while Jadis is very obviously trapped, she does not appear to be trapped in a cycle of carving her will upon the universe. Kind of the opposite. She is trapped by trying to get to the point too quickly though. Her problem is that she tried to take a shortcut to knowledge and wisdom. Plus in some of the few pictures we have of her pre-blocking (here) she's using a sword while Jag is posed as The Thinker
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Sep 28, 2020 14:32
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Soup du Jour posted:Considering that Jag is the only demiurge noted to still care about technology and that Jadis was the strongest and most ambitious demiurge pre-blockening, I think him having Mind and her having Blade would make sense get that boy a monster sized prozac
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Sep 28, 2020 15:08
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The big brutish man having Mind sounds like exactly the kind of thing Abaddon would do, especially with the hints already dropped in the comic.
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Sep 28, 2020 15:13
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I just realized Mottom said the nails made him untouchable, not necessarily invincible.
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Sep 28, 2020 16:11
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those feathers will end up being something, like, from metatron's body
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Sep 28, 2020 16:25
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I for one am looking forward to 300x300 cubit spear
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Sep 28, 2020 16:26
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just get a claw hammer and take the nails out imo
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Sep 28, 2020 16:33
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Potato Salad posted:I for one am looking forward to 300x300 cubit spear Allison and Cio are going to perform the love love tenkyoken
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Sep 28, 2020 16:39
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Tulip posted:She is trapped by trying to get to the point too quickly though. Her problem is that she tried to take a shortcut to knowledge and wisdom. I think you'll find that Jag is posed as The Facepalmer Poor Gog spent all that time, off-panel, worming all of Solomon's subjects and now they were all blowed up  ....but luckily she will soon worm Jagg and soon we'll get The Most Metal Jester Ever 
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Sep 28, 2020 18:56
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TK-42-1 posted:I just realized Mottom said the nails made him untouchable, not necessarily invincible. twist reveal Jagganoth is just a large incel
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Sep 28, 2020 19:12
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Potato Salad posted:those feathers will end up being something, like, from metatron's body I wonder if Metatron is pulling a Gog here and controlling jag via the feathers. Careful what you put into yourself.... A Wizard of Goatse posted:twist reveal Jagganoth is just a large incel A giant incel would be the natural enemy of a group of powerful women.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:25
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Tenebrais posted:While Jagganoth-Mind fits just fine, Jadis-Blade really doesn't to me. All the demiurges have been in some way trapped by their word of royalty, and while Jadis is very obviously trapped, she does not appear to be trapped in a cycle of carving her will upon the universe. Kind of the opposite. Fate is not like the cut of a blade, but rather, the myriad of paths formed when a hammer cracks ice. Unless you're Jadis, who made the mistake of looking at what would be instead of what she could do.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:47
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Demiurge4 posted:Probably not, I thunk White Chain can be thought of as Unchained now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5G90r97syI
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Angels' whole deal is having tremendous power they're unable to wield for themselves. Jagganoth is accepted to be invulnerable by the most powerful beings in a world where picking up the multiverse and beating someone over the head with it lies on the scale of possible violence one can inflict, he's probably pretty tough. I mean, even if we accept that the 30 nails are an artifact of power on the level of the univeral key, I'm pretty sure any of the seven would be completely freaked out if Zoss turned up even as a disembodied key-less ghost head in their dreams.
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Algid posted:Picking up the multiverse was something a god did in the nebulous beforetimes that exists as a literal paradox. Present day Demiurges are pretty far from that level, that multiverse-picker-upper merely exploded her eyes by seeing everything, whereas Jadis turned herself into dried jerky preserved inside an ice cube. I feel like it's entirely possible Jagganoth is definitionally invulnerable, and anyone constrained by causality cannot do him physical harm. That still wouldn't rule Zoss out based on what we've seen, so, there's your answer.
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Algid posted:Picking up the multiverse was something a god did in the nebulous beforetimes that exists as a literal paradox. Present day Demiurges are pretty far from that level, that multiverse-picker-upper merely exploded her eyes by seeing everything, whereas Jadis turned herself into dried jerky preserved inside an ice cube. Joe Slowboat posted:I feel like it's entirely possible Jagganoth is definitionally invulnerable, and anyone constrained by causality cannot do him physical harm. I recall Abaddon saying that even YISUN would be hard-pressed to harm Jagganoth as he is now. In any case, Jagganoth's thing narratively is that he cannot be defeated by force, and thus Allison and co. would need to approach defeating him by some other means.
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Sep 29, 2020 07:56
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I hope we get to see some of his entourage like that stupid looking steamroller tank, Solomon's soldiers just don't have the same flair compared to dudes wielding chainsaw polearms and abacus greatswords.
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Joe Slowboat posted:I feel like it's entirely possible Jagganoth is definitionally invulnerable, and anyone constrained by causality cannot do him physical harm. Just for spitballing; Maybe Incubus is letting Jagganoth pave over the others as he pleases while playing at being (relatively) weak and helpless, and plans to destroy him mentally later?
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Sep 29, 2020 09:30
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Jagganoth's invulnerability is gonna get played up so we're shocked when Incubus draws his sword for the first time and cuts him in half a la Maya and Juggernaut.
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Sep 29, 2020 10:17
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It'll turn out Jag's nuclear sword is just a fancy transport method, his hammer is for... well we can guess but he uses his MIND to talk down most of his opponents by convincing them to join his megaversal apocalyptic of all-destruction though simple persuasive techniques. Join the legion of the red god, destroy the universe, commit mass ritual suicide and let Metatron do his thing. How does Jag convince people? Well he has a warm empathetic voice and a really pleasant manner about him. Plus a bowl of sweets on his desk.
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Sep 29, 2020 10:25
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If those entrances weren't worthy of the Demiurge Name Drop like the five others then I'm psyched for Jadis and Jagganoth doing something even more impressive next book.
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skaianDestiny posted:I recall Abaddon saying that even YISUN would be hard-pressed to harm Jagganoth as he is now. I'm gonna give him a kiss on the cheek and he will not want to fight
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Sep 29, 2020 11:11
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He's like ten meters tall, you're gonna need a ladder.
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Sep 29, 2020 11:26
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YaketySass posted:If those entrances weren't worthy of the Demiurge Name Drop like the five others then I'm psyched for Jadis and Jagganoth doing something even more impressive next book. Jadis is gonna get a name drop doing the Yamcha pose, the panel before Jagg gets his.
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Sep 29, 2020 11:52
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Cat Mattress posted:He's like ten meters tall, you're gonna need a ladder. Smooches of the Colossus
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Smooches of the Colossus Does Argo live in this version?
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Does Argo live in this version? Agro lives in the regular version.
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I think Incubus has bitten off more than he can chew but since he bet on Allison I think he’s got a good chance of still winning. Blind ambition to the rescue! But also all his advice is “murder them first” rather than anything actually useful so I suspect he’s not going to actually help beat Jagganoth, at least not to a huge degree. His training definitely helped Allison make it to where she is now though!
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Sep 30, 2020 01:33
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“Murder them first” just means punching so hard you punch back through time to before Jaggs put the nails in. Seems simple to me!
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Sep 30, 2020 01:48
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Joe Slowboat posted:I think Incubus has bitten off more than he can chew but since he bet on Allison I think he’s got a good chance of still winning. Blind ambition to the rescue! Learning that you don't like "murder them first" is a valid outcome to Incubus' (and Meti's frankly) training Meti always had the option to just loving die instead of fighting back after she learned she hated the sword, it just took her a long time to choose it
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Potato Salad posted:those feathers will end up being something, like, from metatron's body I thought that was pretty obvious.
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