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ThatEvilOne
Aug 25, 2020

get that money, sculptor

The Bird posted:

As soon as you hit kick I wasn't getting back in. Even though you knew it was a mistake as soon as I PM'ed you.

The fact that you said "if you are indeed not a spy", shows that you don't have evidence. So, thanks for that.

Na just means theres room for some doubt but not enough to outway the proof or to risk obsec for.

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OniPanda
May 13, 2004

OH GOD BEAR




Banana Factory posted:

That's the gaslighting talking. I never "flipped my poo poo", and if you look at the actual Discord chatlogs you'll see that the aggression is coming from the other side. I authed properly as soon as I figured out what was going on.


He's clearly referring to perverts on public transportation, not gay people in general.

Nah yeah, I did read the whole thing from start to finish and you poo poo your pants. You responded to having to auth using your SA account, that everyone has to do, with saying you hadn't been to SA in 10 years and who even goes to the forum anymore. That was the start of the meltdown and you just kept goin downhill from there.

And saying "he's referring to perverts" is absolutely, 100% not a defense of using a slur. Gay people are marginalized by poo poo like this, lovely people trying to associate negative connotations with gay people. What the actual gently caress?

Nation of Thizzlam
Sep 9, 2010

Tear off the chains and the entire world will be free

OniPanda posted:


And saying "he's referring to perverts" is absolutely, 100% not a defense of using a slur. Gay people are marginalized by poo poo like this, lovely people trying to associate negative connotations with gay people. What the actual gently caress?

This right here is really the incomprehensible part. In what world is it okay to use slurs that harm an entire group just because you 'intended' it to refer to a smaller group? "Oh it's fine if I say the N word because I just mean my friends, right?"

Remora
Aug 15, 2010

you guys I'm just talking about the bad ones, what's wrong with that???

Banana Factory
Mar 14, 2009

OniPanda posted:

Nah yeah, I did read the whole thing from start to finish and you poo poo your pants. You responded to having to auth using your SA account, that everyone has to do, with saying you hadn't been to SA in 10 years and who even goes to the forum anymore. That was the start of the meltdown and you just kept goin downhill from there.

And saying "he's referring to perverts" is absolutely, 100% not a defense of using a slur. Gay people are marginalized by poo poo like this, lovely people trying to associate negative connotations with gay people. What the actual gently caress?

And that person with poor English skills could have used a better word 7 years ago, no dispute from me on that. But it doesn't mean you get the right to throw some sexual assault survivor's trauma right back at them.

Tulips
Dec 27, 2011

Duck Hunt!

Could you all slow the posting down a little, some of us here are old and can't hit F5 fast enough. Now, where are my glasses?

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Banana Factory posted:

And that person with poor English skills could have used a better word 7 years ago, no dispute from me on that. But it doesn't mean you get the right to throw some sexual assault survivor's trauma right back at them.

yeah no one should bother caring about whateve he said 7 years ago the problem is that 7 days ago or so he was still doing a bunch of hitler jokes

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump
I didn't think oldschool internet meltdowns like this still happened in 2020 but I'm glad I was proven wrong

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




Banana Factory posted:

I wasn't talking about EO at all, which I have not touched for years. I am talking about toilet space games.
Why the gently caress would you think Second Galaxy would somehow be more relevant and give you more cred than EO?

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

i still ahve absolutely zero clue what the gently caress second galaxy is and i have like 4k steam games and 100 games on my phone

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Banana Factory posted:

And that person with poor English skills could have used a better word 7 years ago, no dispute from me on that. But it doesn't mean you get the right to throw some sexual assault survivor's trauma right back at them.

Nobody approves of the helldumping you moron and it will be dealt with. Him dropping racial slurs and "hitler did nothing wrong" poo poo is why he is persona non grata.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



By the way if you helldump a motherfucker in this thread I will report your rear end and get you banned. Do not comb through people's post histories and come running back here with juicy details from 7 years ago, it's not necessary.

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

orange juche posted:

By the way if you helldump a motherfucker in this thread I will report your rear end and get you banned. Do not comb through people's post histories and come running back here with juicy details from 7 years ago, it's not necessary.

the key is to post so much your last 100 pages of history are all recent

delfin
Dec 5, 2003

SNATTER'S ALIVE?!?!

The Bird posted:

Do I have a history of racism, misogyny, or any other bigotry in my posts or on the Discord? Not that I am aware of.

My discord/IGN was Pink_Mingo.

Oh, that was you?

There was the time you asked "If we ever go to war with Chinese corporations, do you think we could get them kicked off by spamming Tiananmen Square facts in local chat?", and then seemed rather surprised when the immediate reaction from everyone was :stonk:.

Banana Factory
Mar 14, 2009

orange juche posted:

Nobody approves of the helldumping you moron and it will be dealt with. Him dropping racial slurs and "hitler did nothing wrong" poo poo is why he is persona non grata.

Yeah I'm not defending those jokes or whatever.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

The Bird posted:

As soon as you hit kick I wasn't getting back in. Even though you knew it was a mistake as soon as I PM'ed you.

The fact that you said "if you are indeed not a spy", shows that you don't have evidence. So, thanks for that.

You do know that there are multiple levels of standards of evidence, right? And that the accused doesn't get to choose the one that gets used?

"Your Honor, I know the standard is 'guilty beyond a reasonable doubt', but if we could just change it to 'guilty beyond all doubt', then my client could go free and we could all put these espionage charges behind us."

Hello Sailor fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Sep 28, 2020

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Banana Factory posted:

Yeah I'm not defending those jokes or whatever.
no youre just concern trolling

Keegers
Aug 11, 2014



Khris Kruel posted:

I think you're a spy though.

Not going to try and stir up any extra drama or anything. But is there a peer review or vote before labeling someone as a spy and kicking them? I don't want to make you give up opsec stuff, but for regular line members is there any guarantee this won't devolve into an Among Us style he said she said kind of thing?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

esto es malo posted:

the key is to post so much your last 100 pages of history are all recent

This TBH.

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Keegers posted:

Not going to try and stir up any extra drama or anything. But is there a peer review or vote before labeling someone as a spy and kicking them? I don't want to make you give up opsec stuff, but for regular line members is there any guarantee this won't devolve into an Among Us style he said she said kind of thing?

sounds like spy talk imo

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




The Bird posted:

So, I did message Kris privately and explain who I am, my history on SA/GSF,
we don't care about who you are or your history with gsf

The Bird posted:

why I am not as active as other members
if you're not a member of this community, or you don't have somebody who is to vouch for you, we don't want you.

The Bird posted:

and how I found Goosefleet through a GSF forum post.
so you didn't find us, the community for SA people who play echoes, through SA, the community you are not actively engaged with? rather, you found us through the community that we've actively been trying to distance ourselves from at every opportunity. the same community that has spawned the majority of our casually-racist shitters.

your explanation here is basically a laundry list of "reasons the bird should not have joined in the first place". i don't know why you're so attached to all this, and i don't know why you would think we would welcome you (a not-goon by your own admission) into our group unless you're so much of a smoothbrained pubbie that you think being part of GSF gives you some sort of internet nerd cred here. the best thing you can do at this point is just disengage. stop caring. it's not worth getting mad about or spending further effort on. go have some fun my dude.

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:
:shrek: master spys itt :shrek:

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


This is going in circles can we talk about potato chips for a bit?

nakieon
Aug 28, 2020

pixaal posted:

This is going in circles can we talk about potato chips for a bit?

you mean air bags with some bonus potato chips inside them? those chips?

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




Keegers posted:

Not going to try and stir up any extra drama or anything. But is there a peer review or vote before labeling someone as a spy and kicking them? I don't want to make you give up opsec stuff, but for regular line members is there any guarantee this won't devolve into an Among Us style he said she said kind of thing?

the case with pink_mingo/the bird was brought before the leadership council and a few other people and we all agreed this guy was probably a spy. i'm not going to post logs and screenshots for opsec's sake, but this was by no means just a kris thing.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


nakieon posted:

you mean air bags with some bonus potato chips inside them? those chips?

Yeah, thinking about buying a bag of salt and vinegar on the way home

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



The Bird posted:

So, I did message Kris privately and explain who I am, my history on SA/GSF, why I am not as active as other members, and how I found Goosefleet through a GSF forum post.
He left me on read after apologizing "if I am not a spy". So, I came here to try and see what the evidence is against me for being a spy. That's it.

I think handling this like an adult would have been leadership performing an actual investigation, not pinging my profile in the GDN Spam channel and then an immediate kick because my name is too close to "Mr. Bird". Maybe asking me questions before the ban?

Do I have a history of racism, misogyny, or any other bigotry in my posts or on the Discord? Not that I am aware of.

My discord/IGN was Pink_Mingo.

You self-owned by claiming affiliation to evegoons as your primary gaming group than by coming here from other games where you played with other actual Goons. Goosefleet doesn't grant nerd cred for being an evegoon, and you're liable to get banned because you're probably gonna drop a racism or something.

I fly with evegoons in EO sure, Echoes got me to reinstall EO, I'm in Goonwaffe, but I also came from here, I have like 20,000 (bad) posts vs like... 300? on there? and I have a small group of Goons I associate with in Imperium, who also don't tolerate racists and chuds in their group, we basically use the Imperium's space socialism to allow us to skip the grindy bullshit of EO and log on to our personal discord, get drunk, and roam through TEST's nullsec looking for ratters.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Sep 28, 2020

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
how do you guys gently caress up on a phone game so bad lmao

Khris Kruel
Nov 5, 2003

Ask me about being a SJW in EE and working to make anyone who disagrees with me a villain and gets no opportunity to defend themselves at all because my army or sycophants I buy off with pixels follows me blindly.

Keegers posted:

Not going to try and stir up any extra drama or anything. But is there a peer review or vote before labeling someone as a spy and kicking them? I don't want to make you give up opsec stuff, but for regular line members is there any guarantee this won't devolve into an Among Us style he said she said kind of thing?

yes I'm not making executive decisions on spy stuff. Our spymaster reviewed it all and leadership is aware.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Foehammer007 posted:

how do you guys gently caress up on a phone game so bad lmao

People keep coming in here thinking their evegoon cred will carry them, and get loving rolled, and then completely melt the gently caress down in a hilarious fashion.

Colin Mockery
Jun 24, 2007
Rawr



The Bird posted:

So, I did message Kris privately and explain who I am, my history on SA/GSF, why I am not as active as other members, and how I found Goosefleet through a GSF forum post.

The real flaw is in thinking that Toilet Eve goons care at all about Goonswarm Federation membership in some other game.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

orange juche posted:

People keep coming in here thinking their evegoon cred will carry them, and get loving rolled, and then completely melt the gently caress down in a hilarious fashion.

I once banned Tib from Theta comms for racism, and it was not well received. I like the fact we have moved on from that being acceptable. Others, clearly, have not moved on.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
hey guys im #2 best director in ISRAD give me director roles ty

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Post ITT every time you lol that people are internet space mad

Khris Kruel
Nov 5, 2003

Ask me about being a SJW in EE and working to make anyone who disagrees with me a villain and gets no opportunity to defend themselves at all because my army or sycophants I buy off with pixels follows me blindly.

im lowkey mad patone posted right after the spy heist and upstaged it

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Colin Mockery posted:

The real flaw is in thinking that Toilet Eve goons care at all about Goonswarm Federation membership in some other game.

They keep ignoring this fact, they don't care about it and seem to be using it to get people to forget about the racism. It's working look at this derail.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Lots of angry spies and racists coming out of hiding.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Colin Mockery posted:

The real flaw is in thinking that Toilet Eve goons care at all about Goonswarm Federation membership in some other game.

It’s especially dumb because lots of us aren’t even in goonswarm in EO if we play it at all. We have a couple people who do wormhole stuff and two gimmicky joke corps for awoxing pubbies in hisec.

Banana Factory
Mar 14, 2009

Keegers posted:

Not going to try and stir up any extra drama or anything. But is there a peer review or vote before labeling someone as a spy and kicking them? I don't want to make you give up opsec stuff, but for regular line members is there any guarantee this won't devolve into an Among Us style he said she said kind of thing?

As another accused spy, I'll tell you there is no guarantee. But if you keep your mouth shut and don't attract attention, they only enforce the "posting history" and "where you found out about us" rules against people they already don't like, and they don't enforce that rule against people who aren't in their way.

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NaanViolence
Mar 1, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Banana Factory posted:

First of all digging up that 7 year old post is loving gross on so many levels, not just shaming a survivor but also the doxing angle as well. There is ZERO justification.

This.

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