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At least we got Cleganebowl. They were the smartest character of them all, diving into a sea of fire to escape the poo poo plot.
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I don't know if anyone watched The Affair, but that show just completely imploded after the first season (which was good). Same with Killing Eve. Other shows that I gave up on and stopped watching: The Good Wife, Halt and Catch Fire, Mr Robot.
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Sep 25, 2020 14:55
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What happened with Killing Eve? I was thinking of checking it out after hearing so much about it. Mr. Robot...man, talk about a show going off a cliff. I thought S3 was fine but the final season...yikes.
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oliwan posted:Other shows that I gave up on and stopped watching: ...Halt and Catch Fire... I actually liked Halt and Catch Fire. It's true that it radically changes the premise and focus across seasons, but I didn't find it that jarring since those changes tended to correlate to a new season arc. The final season had some great moments in it. After the first season, Donna and Cameron become way more centrally important characters, and their intersecting trajectories in the tech industry are kind of the backbone of the show from S2 onward (Cam as a temperamental creative and Donna as a high-powered manager.) There's a scene near the end where they stand around in the vacated office space of their dead startup, and talk through a new startup idea - how it'd begin, what would happen to it, what would happen to them as they tried to run it - and then they part ways possibly forever. It's genuinely great, and I give that show a lot of credit for it.
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I've been theorycrafting again and I think I've realized that if the show and book share endings that much, the thing about Dany's book ending isn't going to be that Jon kills her because she destroyed King's Landing (because in the books Chekov's Wildfire almost certainly won't be ignored and therefore it might just be an accident), it's going to be because she's utterly and completely convinced that fAegon is fake and therefore she will kill him. Nobody else will believe that fAegon is fake so the moment the Starks discover R+L=J they'll believe that Dany will kill Jon if she ever finds out, and they'll start taking measures to eliminate her before that happens. They'll gently caress it up and Jon will be forced to choose: Starks, or Dany. And he'll choose Starks, and to protect them, he will kill Dany. And the big tragic twist will be that Dany was right, fAegon was fake all along, and that's why Dany killed him. Not only would she never have hurt Jon for ACTUALLY being Rhaegar's son, she'd only have loved him more for it. If my (f)Dany theories are correct, Jon killing Dany, possibly to usurp her throne so he can protect House Stark, will not only be before the Long Night, it will be the event that causes it. A new Blood Betrayal. "Treason for Blood." Because in TWOIAF legends state that the first Long Night was caused by the Bloodstone Emperor murdering his sister, the Amethyst Empress, and usurping her throne. And one character who seems to be very eager to bring forth the Long Night (Book Euron) has repeatedly described Dany as having "eyes of amethyst", and it's theorized the Gemstone Emperors names were based on the colors of their eyes.
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Sep 26, 2020 01:21
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Holy poo poo that would be absolutely terrible to read.
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Sky Shadowing posted:I've been theorycrafting again I do want to say I'm sorry for the overly harsh previous post Sky Shadowing, I have no real excuse. But I honestly think what with the Targeryen family tree basically being multiple ouroboros entangled within each other there will come a point where Dany goes insane. It might be the bells, it might be fAegon killing one of her children or it might be something else. Basically water's wet, snow is cold, Targaryens go insane. Jon being a walking corpse might be what saves him from the madness but I think he'll be more Stoneheart than a functional person. He might be the one to put Dany down or it might be another character. Personally I'm hoping somehow Sansa as an absolute gently caress you to the idea of prophecy. The more funny option to me would be fAegon though. Have a pretender on the throne because bloodline means dick all. I do enjoy your theory crafting but this morning I just woke up on completely the wrong side of the bed I think. Sorry again.
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Sep 26, 2020 18:12
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The tv show plot is absolutely the best case scenario we can get from GRRM but he'll probably change it to something worse.
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Sep 26, 2020 18:30
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Last time I looked at this thread was on a greyhound bus ride from Vancouver to Portland while watching the finale. And a hundred pages over the course of a year for as big of a show as this was is NOTHING.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:43
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Coffee Jones posted:Last time I looked at this thread was on a greyhound bus ride from Vancouver to Portland while watching the finale. You did all that in 15 minutes?!
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Sep 27, 2020 04:22
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Bip Roberts posted:The tv show plot is absolutely the best case scenario we can get from GRRM but he'll probably change it to something worse. Jon kills Dany but there's a lot of what he had for breakfast that morning too.
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Sep 27, 2020 04:39
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For shows that went out terribly but started strong...has anyone said Sherlock yet (with Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch?) I genuinely enjoyed the first season and thought it had good acting but I think by the end of season 4 everyone was ready for it to be buried and forgotten.
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An insane mind posted:For shows that went out terribly but started strong...has anyone said Sherlock yet (with Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch?) I genuinely enjoyed the first season and thought it had good acting but I think by the end of season 4 everyone was ready for it to be buried and forgotten. Sherlock was so bad that fans made up theories about how it'd all make sense in the end.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:23
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Sherlock got so bad that it's fans made up conspiracy theories that a totally unrelated BBC program in development was actually a secret Sherlock spinoff that would retroactively fix all the problems with Sherlock's 4th season, and then when it came out and was just a regular old run of the mill BBC rape drama they were incensed.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:46
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I think I watched the first 2 episodes, thought it was meh and then just kinda forgot about it. what happened?
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Sep 28, 2020 19:47
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it turned into a twee drama about Sherlock and his social circle instead of being about fun mysteries that being said I actually think the second season is quite a bit better than the first, but the third is where it started up its own butt and the fourth is where it fully disappeared up there like imagine a full hour and a half of Sherlock Holmes where it's just Holmes and Watson talking about how they feel about Watson getting married
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Sep 28, 2020 20:12
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Bleck posted:it turned into a twee drama about Sherlock and his social circle instead of being about fun mysteries That's the Steven Moffat "modern" Sherlock with Benedict Cumberbatch, right? I ask only because anyone who'd watched Moffat's run on Doctor Who could have told you that was inevitably gonna happen. 
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Sep 28, 2020 20:31
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I liked the episode where Sherlock discovers he has a sister, who is a magical, mind controlling witch. First couple of seasons were entertaining though!
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Sep 28, 2020 20:35
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Yeah i thought the first two seasons were fine, but then it rapidly disappeared up its own butt as if it were anally rocket-propelled. Vague Spoilers: Season 2: Moriarty is the evil mastermind behind every mystery! It culminates in an insanely elaborate murder-suicide pact between Sherlock and Moriarty that sees Moriarty shooting himself and Sherlock jumping off a building to save Watson's life. Season 3: Sherlock survived! How? gently caress you, that's how! It's never explained, and they make fun of the audience for wanting the mystery to be explicable! Watson gets married, and Sherlock is a jerk about it, and somehow this is an entire episode! Also Moriarty isn't dead, except that Moriarty is still dead, and it's actually an elaborate computer program pretending to be Moriarty! Season 4: Moriarty is alive again! Except it's not Moriarty, it's Sherlock Holmes's secret magical even-smarter-than-Sherlock-or-Mycroft-but-autistic-question-mark sister who is a serial murderer who faked her own death and then everyone forgot about her and never mentioned her again! Also the last episode of the series is mostly a dream sequence!
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Sep 28, 2020 21:45
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I honestly thought making Mary a bad rear end merc was pretty fun. It's just a shame that they went absolutely up their own poopchute in season 4.
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Sep 28, 2020 21:53
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I just wanted to see Sherlock Holmes solve mysteries in cool ways and the series was less and less interested in that as it went along
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Sep 28, 2020 22:16
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It was all very discombobulating.
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Sep 28, 2020 22:51
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The ruse to fool moriarty was so convoluted and stupid it pretty much lowered the bar on the show completely. I had hopes that Season 4 would be ok, but I mostly just remember it being extremely dull and unmemorable. At its best it was a pretty good time.
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Sep 29, 2020 03:53
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Which is the season with the dutch or whatever media mogul and Sherlock just straight up murks him?
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Sep 29, 2020 04:02
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End of three I think. I believe he even says I'm not a hero, I'm a high functioning sociopath like it's some huge own.
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Sep 29, 2020 06:52
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Pattonesque posted:I just wanted to see Sherlock Holmes solve mysteries in cool ways and the series was less and less interested in that as it went along The montage where Sherlock solves multiple cases by just looking at the people in question was so insulting in retrospect.
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Sep 29, 2020 08:39
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Moffat's Sherlock wasn't even a detective. Every episode was either a spy thriller or some superhero junk about Sherlock defending humanity against bigger, badder galaxy brains. I guess solving crimes isn't cool enough for Moffat. The crowning turd for me was the episode where he teams up with MI5 to take down Rupert Murdoch 
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Sep 29, 2020 09:04
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The second-to-last episode with totally not Jimmy Savile is another low point.
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Sep 29, 2020 09:09
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I maintain that Dexters ending was a more dramatic gently caress up than game of thrones for the simple reason that given where GRRM left off sticking the landing was always going to be a challenge. Whereas any random person off the street could write more compelling beats for the finale of Dexter if given a brief summary of the premise.
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Sep 29, 2020 09:20
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I am still annoyed that Sherlock spent the entire first episode doing a really cool take on Watson as a badass thrill-seeker who is completely calm under danger and actually misses the excitement of war, only to abandon it entirely in episode 2 in favor of standard comic-relief Watson. I want more badass Watsons, dammit!
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Sep 29, 2020 09:25
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Normally I wouldn't watch massive things about people talking about TV but the hbomberguy video about Sherlock lays it all out really well.
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Sep 29, 2020 10:01
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This thread is a focal point of hatred. I like it.
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Sep 29, 2020 20:48
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It's all we have left
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Sep 29, 2020 21:26
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Have a look at the domain name you're on
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Sep 29, 2020 21:40
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It's easy to poo poo on season 8 but I find it a lot harder to pick my favorite season. 1-4 are really strong and the climaxes of each of those seasons are really good too. The end of season 2 is probably some of the best television I've ever watched. I'd say S3 kind of drags with the theon stuff. I'd put 1 and 2 ahead of 3 and 4, but it's a tough pick.
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Sep 29, 2020 23:41
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I'm just glad Spartacus ended on such a high note. That show was always firing on all cylinders (well, except the first 2 or 3) and made the politics of game of thrones look elementary. It's still my highwater mark of great television.
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Sep 29, 2020 23:52
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Spartacus is a great show but the first episode does feel like a bad 300 rip off
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Sep 30, 2020 20:17
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Bleck posted:like imagine a full hour and a half of Sherlock Holmes where it's just Holmes and Watson talking about how they feel about Watson getting married ???? 
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Sep 30, 2020 20:49
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bobjr posted:Spartacus is a great show but the first episode does feel like a bad 300 rip off Oh yeah the first fourish episodes are just terrible. It's bizarre how abrubtly it transitions into a good show.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:Oh yeah the first fourish episodes are just terrible. It's bizarre how abrubtly it transitions into a good show. Nah it's the first two episodes that are terrible. The third isn't particularly interesting but starts dropping hints that it isn't going to be all bad 300. Episode 4 is when it gets great and doesn't stop.
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