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Lowen SoDium posted:What are the "Addition Tweaks"? I see you discovered english isn't his first language!
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NewFatMike posted:We did it everyone. We got an mITX AM4 mobo: LOL jokes on you, that is BIOSTAR. Basically the worst motherboard vendor that exists.
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Sep 29, 2020 21:52
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Dog that posts from 2017
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redeyes posted:LOL jokes on you, that is BIOSTAR. Basically the worst motherboard vendor that exists. What happened here?
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Sep 29, 2020 22:43
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redeyes posted:LOL jokes on you, that is BIOSTAR. Basically the worst motherboard vendor that exists. 
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Sep 29, 2020 23:11
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Do I need to explain it? Biostar is bad mmk.
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Sep 29, 2020 23:50
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redeyes posted:LOL jokes on you, that is BIOSTAR. Basically the worst motherboard vendor that exists.
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Sep 30, 2020 00:02
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redeyes posted:LOL jokes on you, that is BIOSTAR. Basically the worst motherboard vendor that exists. Here's a post and AM4 mITX mobo from the current decade https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X570D4I-2T#Specifications
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Sep 30, 2020 00:04
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future ghost posted:Elitegroup Computer Systems might have something to say about that. Sorry, you win this argument. But I think they died?
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Sep 30, 2020 00:11
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redeyes posted:Sorry, you win this argument. But I think they died? https://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Model/EN/Socket%201200/Motherboard/Socket%201200/7
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redeyes posted:Sorry, you win this argument. But I think they died? NZXT's boards were also ECS made, but I don't believe they are in production anymore. They also make a lot of the OEM motherboards you see in laptops for other brands, like Lenovo and Acer. Also inquiring minds still want to know what happened when you quoted 2017 post.
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Sep 30, 2020 00:27
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Let me guess: you were caught up and then unmarked the thread by accident. You opened the thread and remarked it. Then when you came back later to read the thread you forgot about that and replied to something on the most recent page you were reading.
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Sep 30, 2020 00:31
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future ghost posted:Elitegroup Computer Systems might have something to say about that. Maybe, but there will always be a special place in my heart for the K7S5A.
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Sep 30, 2020 00:33
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hobbesmaster posted:Let me guess: you were caught up and then unmarked the thread by accident. You opened the thread and remarked it. Then when you came back later to read the thread you forgot about that and replied to something on the most recent page you were reading. Ahh, the Modified Derek Smart thread catch-up.
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mdxi posted:Ahh, the Modified Derek Smart thread catch-up. Becoming a mod of your own subforum?
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Sep 30, 2020 04:20
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redeyes posted:Sorry, you win this argument. But I think they died? I just bought an ECS A320 motherboard last week
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Sep 30, 2020 04:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:I just bought an ECS A320 motherboard last week Goondolences
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Sep 30, 2020 05:17
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It was only like 45 bucks and I'm only going to put an Athlon 200GE on it so my brother can move on from his FM2+ platform. It'll be fine I think.
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Yeah, when your budget is $45, ECS and Biostar are your options. I've used them for computers that had to be dirt cheap and they've been fine for that.
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Khorne posted:I think the Elite Wifi is out now and $200 instead of $270. It wasn't out near launch. I'd definitely compare features & ports of the two before deciding. I got the Elite non-wifi in April and it's been great. No complaints here. I generally prefer to run discrete wifi, hence the Aorus Elite rather than Elite wifi, but otherwise I think the boards are identical.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I just bought an ECS A320 motherboard last week drat, didn't realize ECS was still kicking around.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I got the Elite non-wifi in April and it's been great. No complaints here. I generally prefer to run discrete wifi, hence the Aorus Elite rather than Elite wifi, but otherwise I think the boards are identical. Cool, yeah the only reason why I asked for Wifi boards was because I really like the bluetooth radio on these Intel cards and work with my controllers without issues and I'd prefer to use those instead of USB bluetooth dongles.
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I got the X570 Elite Wifi specifically for Bluetooth (and because it has a shitload of USB2 and 3 ports) and I also have no complaints. XMP worked flawlessly first try, whereas my previous B350/1700 combo couldn't get past 2933 for the life of it on the same RAM chips. Bluetooth has been pretty much flawless; worlds better than the dongles I was using before. Just about any X570 wifi board should have the same antenna though.
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Asus announced a second revision of it's B450 motherboard line. https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/Best-AMD-Ryzen-B450/
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OhFunny posted:Asus announced a second revision of it's B450 motherboard line. But... why?
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Cygni posted:Leaks are starting in earnest. You can always tell when the board partners get their validation parts! Does anyone know enough about ashes to put these results in context? Just browsing their benchmark database, setting to that same 4k/DX12 preset, it looks like there's only two results with a CPU FPS score higher than the 133 in that second screenshot, and both results are from a (Presumably massively overclocked) i9-10980XE chip.
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System integrators: "Hey guys, we need you to label some of the B450 boards as B550-A so our customers will buy them, because higher number is better." Asus: "B450 is super popular. Time to make B450 II." Honestly except for the lack of built-in Wifi I might have gone for one of the B450 II boards. 2.5 Gbps ethernet has been a bit spotty in terms of driver support.
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sean10mm posted:But... why? Since B450s are still going to be able to support Zen 3, and since people are still building PCs even before then, probably betting they can still sell some of them parallel to B550s
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Gwaihir posted:Does anyone know enough about ashes to put these results in context? Just browsing their benchmark database, setting to that same 4k/DX12 preset, it looks like there's only two results with a CPU FPS score higher than the 133 in that second screenshot, and both results are from a (Presumably massively overclocked) i9-10980XE chip. The bench is very memory limited once you have a baseline of CPU grunt, people on reddit have been posting their results and the difference between stock and 4000mhz+ memory with tight timings is massive. There's no way to divine absolute numbers out of those results, especially since the memory config is unknown for the Zen 3 system, but it's looking promising.
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Thanks all for the input. Ended up ordering the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi (at MSRP even).
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Cool, yeah the only reason why I asked for Wifi boards was because I really like the bluetooth radio on these Intel cards and work with my controllers without issues and I'd prefer to use those instead of USB bluetooth dongles. Ironically enough I ended up running a PCIe wireless card that uses Intel chips for the wifi and Bluetooth. It has in fact been great.
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Thanks all for the input. Ended up ordering the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi (at MSRP even). Its a fantastic motherboard, very much up to date with the latest features (Given that it's a refresh of MSI's lovely first attempt of X570) and you get a LOT for the money. Just be very mindful of the second M2 Slot. If you plan to drop a 2280 in there you have to give up the "frozr" heat sink and move the standoff to where the heatsink standoff is with the drive exposed bare.
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Kraftwerk posted:Its a fantastic motherboard, very much up to date with the latest features (Given that it's a refresh of MSI's lovely first attempt of X570) and you get a LOT for the money. Huh? Could you explain further, all the pictures I see of the board show the 2nd M.2 slot away from the chipset heatsink.  Edit: OK, I think I understand, but is the heatsink's screw not long enough to catch the standoff? 8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Huh? Could you explain further, all the pictures I see of the board show the 2nd M.2 slot away from the chipset heatsink.  The board will come with 2 of the small standoff screws for the M2 drives. See the red spot I circled? That screw is permanently attached to the heatsink (so it sits loose but attached when you remove the heatsink) and that is the same place where you'll have to screw in a 2280 to hold it down. With no further space you can't put the heatsink back you have to discard it back in the box. Underneath the heatsink to the right of the red circle is another standoff that you will need to remove and place in the location where the red circle is before installing your 2280 or else it will cause your m2 slot to bend into an arch slightly. While they look identical I believe the standoff the heatsink is secured to is not the same height as the M2 standoff concealed underneath. It's an annoyance to have to go through all those steps when right above it you have a turnkey solution. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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Kraftwerk posted:
Oh man, you talked about this in the pcbuild thread, but I could never quite understand what was going on. That was enough detail for it to finally click. You just remove the standoff that's in the 60mm position, put in in the box or your pc screws collection. Then keep the heatspreader's standoff in the 80mm position, and the heatspreader screw itself is your retaining screw for 80mm drives. I didn't think the standoff that was making the drive "bend" could possibly be an additional one in the 60 or 42 spot, gotta say that shipping the board with that in place was a poor move by MSI. But still, there's a pic in the manual that specifically Xs out installing a drive with a standoff underneath it. (Don't bother to change it out to put the heatspreader back on until you've got another reason to crack the case, heatsinks/spreaders on NVMe drives don't really matter.)
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Klyith posted:Oh man, you talked about this in the pcbuild thread, but I could never quite understand what was going on. That was enough detail for it to finally click. This is how I understood it after looking at more pictures.
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Klyith posted:Oh man, you talked about this in the pcbuild thread, but I could never quite understand what was going on. That was enough detail for it to finally click. Wait so you screw down the heatspreader AND the M2drive together with the same screw?
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https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1311533770894462977 A 5900X scoring 652 points in single-threaded, and 9481 points in multi-threaded would be something like a 20% uplift in single-threaded performance, and a 14% uplift in multi-threaded performance relative to a 3900X
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