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How Wonderful! posted:Yeah. I thought the ending of that arc was actually really unsettling and sad. The first time I did a big read-through of 80s X-comics I was struck by how likeable and interesting Madelyne is, and how horrific her transformation in Inferno was. I felt like her sense of confusion and loss in Hellions was very understandable, and the responses of the two Summers brothers at the end extremely revealing. Uncanny X-Men 170 is really good. Just finished it a half hour ago, and the Madelyne/Scott stuff is almost as good as the Storm/Calysto fight. There’s even a good scene with Destiny and Mystique that sets up Rogue joining in the next issue. I feel like I’ll have to read X Of Swords: Creation again and take notes. There was a lot going on there.
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There's an alternate universe where Jean Grey stayed dead and Scott Summers retired to Alaska with Madelyn Pryor and their kid Nathan and I often wonder what the gently caress X-Men comics would actually look like for the 30 years after that. Storm would probably be even more important than she is for the book.
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Skwirl posted:
The amount that Chris Claremont was horny for Storm literally cannot be overstated. I started reading the entire Claremont era from Giant Sized forward in quarantine and from her first appearance ( in which she is topless) through the dark Phoenix saga ( which happens much earlier than I thought) she managed to get in 3-4 shower scenes. It’s wild.
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Sep 25, 2020 13:17
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:most def. See also how her mere presence turns villains horny on main for her. Dracula and even Doom. There's a guy over on RPG.net reading all the X-stuff ever and I was reminded even in the Heroes For Hope section Claremont himself writes we get Storm being shown different versions of herself which include fairy, cheerleader, "the wanton" and ending with dominatrix.
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Sep 25, 2020 13:29
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Skwirl posted:There's an alternate universe where Jean Grey stayed dead and Scott Summers retired to Alaska with Madelyn Pryor and their kid Nathan and I often wonder what the gently caress X-Men comics would actually look like for the 30 years after that. How much was X-Men's continued popularity throughout the late 80s tied to the expansion into stuff like X-Force and X-Factor? Because without Scott and Cable you don't really have either of those. People would probably like Wolverine even more, without him being able to act like that guy about Jean
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Sep 25, 2020 13:51
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OnimaruXLR posted:Because without Scott and Cable you don't really have either of those. I don't think Cable was conceived (no pun intended) as a Summers kid so it certainly wouldn't have affected him. And I don't think any of his initial popularity could be contributed to his parentage. Hell, I'd argue he wasn't popular so much as the person creating/drawing him was popular and he just benefitted from that.
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yeah Cable was originally just created as a foil for Professor X, a mysterious hardlined military leader type who was also a cyborg. even without the Summers family connection he still would have stuck around though his later years obviously would have been far different
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Sep 25, 2020 19:01
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I appreciate Hickman's ability to read my mind. Me, reading X-Men #12: "What the gently caress is with all of these place names? Can you give us some clue as to where they all are in relation to each other? Aren't you the infographics guy, Hickman? Get on that poo poo!" Me, reading Creation: "Oh, there it is. Thanks Hickman!"
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Sep 25, 2020 19:14
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Alaois posted:yeah Cable was originally just created as a foil for Professor X, a mysterious hardlined military leader type who was also a cyborg. even without the Summers family connection he still would have stuck around though his later years obviously would have been far different I feel like at most Liefeld had him as somebody from the future aside from that, which feels like the typical thing of Rob only ever having broad strokes and the interesting stuff filled in by more competent writers later.
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Sep 25, 2020 22:27
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So no precogs are allowed on Krakow, right? Isn't Betsy a precog? I know she was before the body switch with Kwannon. (I can not remember any precog things in her body) so now does she have precognitive poweres back in her original body? Psylocke, - so confusing.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:33
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nunsexmonkrock posted:So no precogs are allowed on Krakow, right? Isn't Betsy a precog? I know she was before the body switch with Kwannon. (I can not remember any precog things in her body) so now does she have precognitive poweres back in her original body? God knows I don't have perfect X-Men knowledge, but I don't remember Betsy ever predicting the future.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:51
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I think she was mildly precog in her first, first appearances in Captain Britain (I listed to a two hour podcast about her recently, I should remember this more clearly) but since moving into mainline Marvel I think she's been strictly a telepath/telekinetic.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:39
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rantmo posted:I think she was mildly precog in her first, first appearances in Captain Britain (I listed to a two hour podcast about her recently, I should remember this more clearly) but since moving into mainline Marvel I think she's been strictly a telepath/telekinetic. Did she premiere when Alan Moore was writing Captain Britain, i keep meaning to read those.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:42
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Yes and same.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:43
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Kinda related, but shouldn’t she be able to fly, too? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it happen.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Kinda related, but shouldn’t she be able to fly, too? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it happen. I only consider Marvel UK stuff canon if it's shown to be in the main books.
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Sep 28, 2020 19:50
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rantmo posted:I think she was mildly precog in her first, first appearances in Captain Britain (I listed to a two hour podcast about her recently, I should remember this more clearly) but since moving into mainline Marvel I think she's been strictly a telepath/telekinetic. I guess it could be like Rachel where I don’t think anybody remembered her actual mutant power until the most recent X-Factor.
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Sep 28, 2020 21:23
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I feel like X-Factor is also glossing up the ability a little to make it stand out. I knew Rachel could project minds through time, including her own, but I don't think I've even heard the term "chrono-skimming" before now.
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Sep 29, 2020 03:35
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Doesn’t she have psychometry as well?
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Open Marriage Night posted:Doesn’t she have psychometry as well? She does in X-Factor, I don't remember her ever using it before though, maybe once or twice when she first got sent back in time to help figure out that the Jean and Scott in the 616 timeline weren't the Jean and Scott from hers.
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Sep 29, 2020 09:13
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BrianWilly posted:I feel like X-Factor is also glossing up the ability a little to make it stand out. I knew Rachel could project minds through time, including her own, but I don't think I've even heard the term "chrono-skimming" before now. iirc her power is referred to as chronoskimming in Days of Future Past. I wanna say the psychometry came later as an extension of that power? But I don’t think the psychometry was ever referred to as chronoskimming like it is now in X-Factor.
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nunsexmonkrock posted:So no precogs are allowed on Krakow, right? Not since the PiS took over.
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Sep 29, 2020 09:32
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Hi all, I stopped when comics paused for covid and am just getting back on the horse. What’s good and what sucks?
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Sep 29, 2020 21:36
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Don't read Fallen Angels, and the beginning of Excalibur is weak. Everything else is more or less gravy.
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New Mutants is a bit inconsistent too, partly because of the changing writing team.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:New Mutants is a bit inconsistent too, partly because of the changing writing team. The Hickman issues were great and the others definitely were. I'm hoping the new writer brings the quality back up.
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I've been enjoying New Mutants, even if it's closer to the middle of the pack for me, but I'm really looking forward to what Vita Ayala does on the book. So far I've enjoyed everything of theirs I've read.
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Transistor Rhythm posted:Hi all, I stopped when comics paused for covid and am just getting back on the horse. What’s good and what sucks? Cable is a lot of fun.
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X-Factor only has a few issues out but it's stellar. Sword of X Spoilers: Aw, rest in peace, Rockslide. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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Dawgstar posted:X-Factor only has a few issues out but it's stellar. oh man how pissed off am I about to be
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Blockhouse posted:oh man how pissed off am I about to be Good thing it doesn’t matter!!
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 X-Factor is more expensive than usual because it's now part of a crossover event. gently caress my life and gently caress Marvel.
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I just started really catching up last night. X of swords seems like a really goofy and off-brand idea.
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bobkatt013 posted:Good thing it doesn’t matter!! Do you mean like in general as relates to a comics character or here specifically, because it matters here specifically. It's a whole thing.
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Krakoa really needs to set up a temporal corp. A group that does missions in the recent past to rectify mistakes that would represent major threats to Krakoa's continued existence as a nation. Not minor set backs, but existential threats. No one's using the name Exiles right now, right?
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The prophecy/end summary by Doug only lists 9 champions right? 10 swords are mentioned and 10 spots at the sanctus sancrum. So waiting on one person to be revealed still. I assume it is possible for Rockslide to eventually reform in Otherworld at some point. Hope goon favorite X-man isn't gone for too long.
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Fritzler posted:I assume it is possible for Rockslide to eventually reform in Otherworld at some point. Hope goon favorite X-man isn't gone for too long. He'd better not be! He wore a hockey mask to conceal his identity. How is that the mutant you off for stakes? (Seriously though, just let Anole and Rockslide be bros! They got it bad enough during the Rosenberg era.)  
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Sep 30, 2020 17:18
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Blockhouse posted:oh man how pissed off am I about to be update: the answer is "moderately"
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X-Factor got me a lot more invested in X of Swords, and I actually kind of liked how what might have normally just been a routine crossover shock-death brought up a number of important questions about the rules of Krakoa as a setting. Pretty strong writing for and around Apocalypse as well. I'm very interested to see how some of the other better side-titles-- Marauders, (imo) Hellions, etc.-- find ways to explore the margins of this arc.
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I'm going to be fair and say I'm willing to give New-Rockslide a shot but minimizing him as a character in favor of Glob followed by killing him off to prove a point just really sticks in my craw. I greatly appreciate Emma being pissed off about it. I'd be less salty if he had done literally anything since Dawn of X started
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