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I recently finished 2D Trials with a party of Kevin, Charlotte, and Riesz. For that I went with Warrior Monk (LD) Kevin pretty much so I could just get Leaf Saber so I could keep MP topped off for the party without having to worry about gold statues or inns after the second class change, which was particularly helpful in the Mirage Palace. In general, I have this irrational aversion to consumables since you have to go out of your way to buy them and while I can do that with things like claws and coins, my issues with oils and walnuts is that you never really know how many of those you're going to end up needing before another opportunity to hit up the market. I'm starting 3D Trials now with an opposite party of Duran, Angela, and Hawkeye. My first thought here is to go with Edelfrei (DL) Duran so I have Leaf (and Moon) Saber to keep MP topped off the same as before, but I'm not sure if that's a great idea given the rest of the party is magic focused (will enough melee attacks happen to actually recover?) and I go through most of the game relying on poto oil for healing. Alternatively I could go Liege (LD) to tank and have access to healing, but I'm not sure what to do for MP recovery. I'm generally aware that there's more MP recovery options in the remake than Leaf Saber, but I haven't been able to figure out which are available to this party. Any thoughts?
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Sep 30, 2020 05:17
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September 30th 1995 was when SD3 was originally released, so there have been a few things announced in a burst of tweets from PR accounts because of the 25th anniversary. https://twitter.com/Seiken_PR/status/1311141419927498753 First they're adding a new harder difficulty to the remake via a patch on 10/14, called No Future, and if you beat the game on that difficulty you get Rabite slippers. Seems like it'll go on sale at that time, too. https://twitter.com/sem_sep/status/1311141297739018240 A selection of 27 music tracks decided by Hiroki Kikuta has been added to Spotify and a few other music services. https://twitter.com/SQEX_MD_GOODS/status/1311140724247654402 High quality Bring Arts figures of all six main characters whose preorders start today. They're also holding a character popularity poll and the winner will get a new illustration by HACCAN. And lastly and probably leastly, they're giving away some little backgrounds for Zoom meetings.
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Sep 30, 2020 05:41
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Does Angela have a button you can push to make her say "E!"?
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Sep 30, 2020 05:44
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Edelfrei is absolutely busted and generally considered Duran's best class and makes exploiting elemental weaknesses (Angela and Dark!Hawkeye both have elemental spells/skills) very easy. It's very offensively tilted, but you can tank with it if you want. Liege is a more defensive/support class; gets passive buffs (atk/def/mag), can heal, and is pretty tanky. Personally, I'd go for the former and rely on items (or passive abilities) for healing/MP. I am also someone who values offense over defense, and generally build teams to that end, ymmv.
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Sep 30, 2020 05:46
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Further details from Gematsu. I guess there's two difficulties coming.quote:New difficulty setting “No Future” added.
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Sep 30, 2020 05:50
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this game made me so happy, both the original (thru an emulator) and the remake. maybe its the music, but I just love the whole thing.
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Sep 30, 2020 06:23
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quote:When selecting “New Game+,” you can choose to return to Level 1. yesss
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Sep 30, 2020 09:06
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Wow, I was not expecting the game to get any further updates, especially this major. Must've sold really well indeed.
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Sep 30, 2020 09:50
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Oh poo poo I’m gonna wait for that patch so I can do Very Hard. Then I’ll try No Future on my final playthrough.
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Sep 30, 2020 12:10
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To be honest, a time limit for bosses sounds kind of like a pain.
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Sep 30, 2020 14:20
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Erpy posted:To be honest, a time limit for bosses sounds kind of like a pain. Sounds great to me, having difficulty levels just be “enemies have more hp/defense and do more damage” is boring. Gotta strategize. They are assuming the people doing that difficulty level are already experts on the game and will have an efficient team that can quickly dispose of bosses.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:23
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The time limit is basically whatever. 3 items only is savage and means you'll have to carefully plan your party composition.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:32
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SKULL.GIF posted:The time limit is basically whatever. Actually having an AOE healer will matter this time around!
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Sep 30, 2020 15:41
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SKULL.GIF posted:The time limit is basically whatever. I will carefully plan around using Angela to carry the team, yes.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:41
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The low difficulty is what was keeping me from replaying more so I am very glad they are taking a concerted effort to make it more difficult.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:43
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Hard mode sounds like it basically forces you to have a dedicated healer and overlevel a bit to compensate for not being able to use elemental items. Don't see that really making a huge difference otherwise
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Sep 30, 2020 15:46
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So glad they're still supporting this game with new content! With that superhard mode announcement, it's probably gonna be a good idea to learn this trick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B7TC0guNpQ
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Sep 30, 2020 18:18
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I'm legitimately hyped for No Future mode. For a long time I've been saying not enough games with New Game+ also rightfully scale the difficulty of enemies so that the game is a fair challenge even at super high levels or what have you. This game is very well-designed so I don't think it'll be as bullshit as Legend of Mana. They seem to be encouraging a different kind of playstyle with those new chain abilities, so I'm very much looking forward to seeing how it ends up in practice. The only playthrough I hadn't done yet is the Dark Prince run, so I guess I'll have to use Hawkeye and Riesz. I did Light Hawkeye on a previous playthrough so maybe Ninja Bullshit is the way to go this time? Who would be a good third I wonder, I'm leaning Charlotte for reliable heals and other potential support like Sabers (if I'm not misremembering?)
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Sep 30, 2020 19:10
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Light Charlotte gets sabers, Dark Charlotte gets summons, so yeah. I took Warrior Monk Kevin as my third, but that was partially because it was my first run and I assumed he'd be as bullshit broken as in the original.
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Sep 30, 2020 19:39
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Alxprit posted:I'm legitimately hyped for No Future mode. For a long time I've been saying not enough games with New Game+ also rightfully scale the difficulty of enemies so that the game is a fair challenge even at super high levels or what have you. This game is very well-designed so I don't think it'll be as bullshit as Legend of Mana. They seem to be encouraging a different kind of playstyle with those new chain abilities, so I'm very much looking forward to seeing how it ends up in practice. If you do DL Hawkeye you get multi-target debugging ninja skills, he pairs well with LD Riesz who gets multi-target party buffs. I was going to go with Dark Angela for that run, which will also be my third, but I’m not totally decided yet
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Sep 30, 2020 21:41
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pull out your wallet, the bring arts are sold in 3 separate pairs for $209.99 a piece (on sale for 188!) https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/614432/trials-of-mana-bring-arts-action-figure-hawkeye-riesz
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Oct 1, 2020 03:38
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Phantasium posted:pull out your wallet, the bring arts are sold in 3 separate pairs for $209.99 a piece (on sale for 188!) oh no they are articulated 
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Oct 1, 2020 03:47
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Overpriced poo poo like this is the only thing keeping the anime industry afloat. Don't be surprised.
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Oct 1, 2020 04:33
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Phantasium posted:https://twitter.com/sem_sep/status/1311141297739018240 Just so others don't drive themselves crazy like I did the past 15 minutes, this is just a playlist from the original Super Famicom version of the game chosen by the original composer (Hiroki Kikuta). The entire Seiken Densetsu 3 (aka 2D Trials of Mana) soundtrack was already on Spotify, and this is just a curation of 27 of those tracks, presumably the ones the composer liked the best. It is not versions of the songs from the 3D version as I was hoping.  I guess it is kinda cool to hear the tracks that the composer liked best but, yeah. Nothing new here, sonically speaking. Looking forward to those difficulty updates though! I think the limited enemy telegraphing is the best way to make the game harder in a way that isn't just increasing enemy HP. Not thrilled about boss time limits but we'll see what happens.
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Oct 1, 2020 05:30
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I wouldn't worry about the time limits. Based on the videos I took of fighting the bosses without being hit, most of them are a few minutes of a fight at the most. And the longer ones were ones where I wasn't being as aggressive because of the fear of being hit.
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Oct 1, 2020 05:51
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I never thought this game would see a western release, I never thought it would get a full remake, I never thought the remake would be this good, and I never thought it would get post-release support like this. SE is full of surprises these days.
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Oct 1, 2020 07:16
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Fister Roboto posted:I never thought this game would see a western release, I never thought it would get a full remake, I never thought the remake would be this good, and I never thought it would get post-release support like this. SE is full of surprises these days. It only took them 25 years!
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Oct 1, 2020 07:32
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and they just announced a patch that adds stuff, namely harder difficulties https://www.rpgsite.net/news/10320-trials-of-mana-version-1-10-to-release-on-october-14-adds-no-future-difficulty-option-and-other-fixes
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Oct 2, 2020 05:21
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So happy they realised how dumb forcing you to begin at level 99 on NG+ was.
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Oct 3, 2020 16:48
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Wondering what the difference between Very Hard and No Future is going to be.
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Oct 3, 2020 21:26
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Rand Brittain posted:Wondering what the difference between Very Hard and No Future is going to be. Someone posted this earlier on this page but I’ll copy it here, No Future has a lot more added difficulty beyond just stronger enemies: quote:
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Oct 3, 2020 21:30
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quote:You can now skip class change cutscenes and the end credits. Huge
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Oct 3, 2020 21:56
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Trials Remake: If the item seed rolls within the consumable item/gear/serum classes occur when you acquire the seeds, what does the level of the pot actually do? Does it just make it more likely to get gear vs. consumable? Alternatively, if I'm trying to maximize chances for getting class 3 gear I assume I should pick up three ??? seeds from chests ASAP after reaching the holy land without getting any item seeds after that point, and then go back and get as many item seeds as needed to flesh out the gear?
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Leveling the pot improves your chances of finding higher level seeds. It’s possible that leveling it improves the items you get from the seeds (when you pick them up, I guess?) Edit: for the ??? Seeds as far as I know if you pick up the six from chests before getting any more random ones you always get one of each class change item, at least that’s what happened for me and several other people. You can’t get gear seeds until way later iirc
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Oct 10, 2020 14:31
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If you are on PC I would advise you to just install the mod that lets you buy ??? seeds at vendors. I did that after my 3rd or so playthrough.
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Oct 10, 2020 18:24
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I hope you all consider giving Genshin Impact a try. It gets compared to BotW a lot, but the satisfying action combat, elemental themes, and charming anime world give me Mana vibes through and through. Plus, it's F2P and offers a ton of content up front.
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Oct 11, 2020 12:06
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I've tried it but sadly it does the Nintendo thing where A is cancel and B is confirm on an Xbox controller and that's not something I am willing to put up with. Shame cause it looks to be pretty fun otherwise.
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Oct 12, 2020 19:45
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What the crap kind of game doesn't let you remap buttons
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Oct 12, 2020 21:05
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local F2P game that you can totally get tons of enjoyment out of without ever spending a dime mysteriously makes 100 million dollars in two weeks! scientists are mystified! (I tried it for a few hours, it was boring and nakedly cynical like all gacha games)
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Oct 12, 2020 23:11
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Augus posted:nakedly cynical What does that even mean
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