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GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Not So Fast posted:

https://youtu.be/7xnNhzgcWTk

This has been superseded by hatred of the EU, but certainly prior to that the right-wing nationalists hated Germany.

I don't think that video means what you think it does.

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
It's not called "the world's largest racist ethno-state" for nothing.

Malkina_
May 13, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
this thread seems very angry at china doing capitalisms better than america does

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WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
It's almost like taking things to extremes is near-universally a very bad thing.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Malkina_ posted:

this thread seems very angry at china doing capitalisms better than america does

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Seems like a ok thing to be angry at?
Like, so what if thousands of pet mill animals get stuck in a logistics hold up? :capitalism:


NSFL warning :
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dead-pets-cats-puppies-guinea-pigs-found-dead-in-boxes-at-china-shipping-depot-henan/

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Flannelette posted:

Seems like a ok thing to be angry at?

i on the other hand, look forward to the Chinese led corporate cyberpunk dystopia.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

screamin and creamin posted:

Sorry for ruining this otherwise laser-like focused thread for you, but the original subject I responded to was "imagine nations other than China still being mad about things like WWII", and I would contend that the Brits are a perfect example.

Brit here! It's less about the Germans and more about all of WW2, as it's remembered today. Britain (or perhaps more specifically, England) has never properly acknowledged or come to terms with the fact that we were once one of the great world powers and now we're not any more (see the entirety of the Brexit saga as an example of this thinking disorder). Any brutally clear sighted evaluation of our current position would conclude that we're a mid-tier power whose future lies in combining with the other mid-tier powers that make up the EU, to form a genuinely powerful bloc.

As a displacement activity from having to think these uncomfortable thoughts, Brits much prefer to focus on and talk up past triumphs and glories, as epitomised in the drunken football chant: "Two world wars and one world cup!" This fits my argument very nicely, as the World Cup in question was 1966 and our national football team has been poo poo for decades now...

So you'll routinely hear confused, angry patriots saying things like: "Why should we even need to negotiate with Europe! We won WW2!! They should be obliged to give us whatever we want! I bet the Germans are at the bottom of all this etc etc etc."

To bring this post back round to China, the counterpoint to us over-remembering past glories is that we've been very careful to forget all the more dubious stuff we did as an empire, such as making GBS threads all over China while they were in a position of weakness in the 19th century. The Chinese very much remember this, while the average Brit wouldn't have a clue.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012

Squalid posted:

i on the other hand, look forward to the Chinese led corporate cyberpunk dystopia.

i can't wait for another kowloon walled city

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
play shadowrun hong kong

its the most hong kong game ever made

its got the planescape thing goin on where the story is amazing and the actual game qua game sucks tho

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Christ, imagine the smell.


bob dobbs is dead posted:

play shadowrun hong kong

its the most hong kong game ever made

its got the planescape thing goin on where the story is amazing and the actual game qua game sucks tho

That's a fuckin' weird way to say Sleeping Dogs, my lad.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
i guess the writing is way more like a hk action movie in sleeping dogs, which is to say its bad but is hong kong as hell, sure

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012

WarpedNaba posted:

That's a fuckin' weird way to say Sleeping Dogs, my lad.

are you sure you don't mean stranglehold by john woo??

also the cantonese dub of rise to honor is cool as heck

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Booty Pageant posted:

are you sure you don't mean stranglehold by john woo??

also the cantonese dub of rise to honor is cool as heck

max payne was better at making a john woo film in a video game than john woo himself for some reason

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Shadowrun Hong Kong is legit one of the best computer RPGs of the last decade, period. Everyone should check it out.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

barbecue at the folks posted:

Shadowrun Hong Kong is legit one of the best computer RPGs of the last decade, period. Everyone should check it out.

dragonfall was also really good

the original 2010whtever game (not the original original 80s game) sucks rear end tho. only get the expansions, theyre standalone

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
Shadow run returns was ok. Just not great like the other 2.

bones 4 beginners
Jan 7, 2018

"...a masterpiece that no one can read too often, or admire too much."
Post your dang mooncakes!!!

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

UltraRed posted:

Shadow run returns was ok. Just not great like the other 2.

If you try to play it after the other two it’ll suck, the improvements were so substantial that going back is basically impossible.


I mentioned it in some other threads but forgot to mention it here, I had a patient a few weeks ago on the ambulance who was in rough shape and completely out of it who had been trying to treat his pissing blood with TCM for months instead of going to a real doctor. It was awful, I was wondering if he had managed to finally poison the poo poo out of himself or if something else was going on, and just stuffing all his random crap in a bag for the doctors. My hatred of TCM grew three sizes that day.


Turns out he had both poisoned the poo poo out of himself AND his bladder cancer had gone for a walk.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I won some egg yolk mooncakes as a door prize at a work event.

Sigh. Gotta find someone who likes those.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Turns out he had both poisoned the poo poo out of himself AND his bladder cancer had gone for a walk.
:( that must be right up there with MMS users.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Shumagorath posted:

:( that must be right up there with MMS users.

It’s worse, IMO, since at least if it was MMS I’d know it was bleach. TCM is such a weird array of stuff, and often not the stuff it’s actually sold as, that it makes trying to make sense of the stuff on his shelf basically impossible and they had to wait for a ton of labs to come back. He was impressively poisoned, too. His heart was doing stuff that I had basically never seen before. Went from looking like a heart attack, to electrical blocks, to normal, and afib.

Epsilon Moonshade
Nov 22, 2016

Not an excellent host.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

play shadowrun hong kong

its the most hong kong game ever made

its got the planescape thing goin on where the story is amazing and the actual game qua game sucks tho

I only lurk this thread - I've never been to China, have little interest in going there, and I'm only really here to laugh at China being China (although I have learned that I'm putting myself in mortal danger every time I cook too much rice.) With that said:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3842885 is a Let's Play of Shadowrun: Dragonfall that's almost finished (probably 1 or 2 missions left,) and I think that Kanfy is going to be moving on to Shadowrun: Hong Kong after that. If you're not the type to play a game, that may be a good way to experience it.

I've never played SR:HK myself, so I can't speak to the accuracy of the above statement.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Returns was fairly lame, Dragonfall was good, Hong Kong was great. Video games.

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

Happy birthday to China (number 1)

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Trash Ops posted:

China (number 1)

china get out im piss

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Trash Ops posted:

Happy birthday to China (number 1)

Get out of here you drunkard.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Trash Ops posted:

Happy birthday to China (number 1)

"heh, got 'em!"

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Trash Ops posted:

Happy birthday to China (number 1)

Come back in 8 days

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Pistol_Pete posted:

Brit here! It's less about the Germans and more about all of WW2

Thank you for explaining this. I realize you’re just explaining this, not endorsing it.

It unfortunately amounts to: “I’m sorry for having beaten up you and your mother every night all these years, it was about me, not you. O my problems, woe is me, why must I beat up my family ? Waaah!”

Same goes for China.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I have no mooncakes ;______;

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

screamin and creamin posted:

Thank you for explaining this. I realize you’re just explaining this, not endorsing it.

It unfortunately amounts to: “I’m sorry for having beaten up you and your mother every night all these years, it was about me, not you. O my problems, woe is me, why must I beat up my family ? Waaah!”

Same goes for China.

What is your connection to Britain/England that gives you this impression of seething anti-German sentiment?

My family is English and although I haven't been there since in almost 15 years the only anti-German stuff I see is from right-wing pro-Brexit mouthpieces like the Daily Mail looking for cheap heat.

Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

hi china thread, this is an odd question, but I am arguing with some... other posts... elsewhere, but can someone explain how voting actually works in china? all I find is CCP propaganda about how china is the most democratic country in the world

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Seven Hundred Bee posted:

hi china thread, this is an odd question, but I am arguing with some... other posts... elsewhere, but can someone explain how voting actually works in china? all I find is CCP propaganda about how china is the most democratic country in the world

You get beaten up or killed by the cops if you oppose the regime

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Seven Hundred Bee posted:

hi china thread, this is an odd question, but I am arguing with some... other posts... elsewhere, but can someone explain how voting actually works in china? all I find is CCP propaganda about how china is the most democratic country in the world

There are various "elections" at different levels, where the voting is done only by select groups of Party members and the outcome is guaranteed in advance. You could think of it like a political party in a democracy picking who will be their leader, though there's not much of a free choice. How often these elections actually are competitive is unknown because the Party keeps government operations as much of a black box as possible. The votes we do see are the big ones at National People's Congress meetings and they're always 2186-3 types of bullshit dictatorship "votes".

If you're talking about regular citizens voting, there is no such thing with one exception. Anything classified as a legal village will have elections for some local officials like village chiefs. We're talking areas with like a thousand people, nothing important. The officials have authority within their village but nothing beyond that. Also these elections also tend to be everyone voting for the candidate that was chosen in advance/bribed everyone/whatever, but not always. There is absolutely zero mechanism for any average Chinese citizen to vote or participate in any way in the government above village level (and the vast majority of the population is not living in villages), which is a big part of why average Chinese people don't really give a poo poo about politics, they have no say in it so why bother.

Anyway, anyone who thinks China is in any way democratic is a loving moron. Don't waste your time with them.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Oct 2, 2020

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:

hi china thread, this is an odd question, but I am arguing with some... other posts... elsewhere, but can someone explain how voting actually works in china? all I find is CCP propaganda about how china is the most democratic country in the world

Imagine if you could still "vote" for mayor or something but every candidate had to be personally approved by Donald Trump

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

i've had a hell of a time trying to figure out even the most basic aspects of how the Chinese government functions. I literally couldn't find one resource written in an approachable manner for a popular audience. I finally caved and picked up couple of academic or near academic books on Chinese politics in the Xi era and just before and both of them just completely breezed over the essential details like village and city organization, regions, Local Assemblies. LIke even if this poo poo is all a bunch of rubber stamps come on man. It's hosed up that literal Chinese propaganda is often the first thing you find when looking real information on this stuff, but that's how it is.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Recently got a 3M respirator and put it on to go do the first in person grocery shopping since like march.

Went to the asian market to get a bunch of poo poo and got mooncakes too

"eat the moon cake and look at the MOON"

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

peanut posted:

I have no mooncakes ;______;

My neighbor gave us some today. It was very nice.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

hakimashou posted:

Recently got a 3M respirator and put it on to go do the first in person grocery shopping since like march.

Went to the asian market to get a bunch of poo poo and got mooncakes too

"eat the moon cake and look at the MOON"

Look at this guy with a hot girlfriend's rear end to stare at :argh:

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Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

Grand Fromage posted:

There are various "elections" at different levels, where the voting is done only by select groups of Party members and the outcome is guaranteed in advance. You could think of it like a political party in a democracy picking who will be their leader, though there's not much of a free choice. How often these elections actually are competitive is unknown because the Party keeps government operations as much of a black box as possible. The votes we do see are the big ones at National People's Congress meetings and they're always 2186-3 types of bullshit dictatorship "votes".

If you're talking about regular citizens voting, there is no such thing with one exception. Anything classified as a legal village will have elections for some local officials like village chiefs. We're talking areas with like a thousand people, nothing important. The officials have authority within their village but nothing beyond that. Also these elections also tend to be everyone voting for the candidate that was chosen in advance/bribed everyone/whatever, but not always. There is absolutely zero mechanism for any average Chinese citizen to vote or participate in any way in the government above village level (and the vast majority of the population is not living in villages), which is a big part of why average Chinese people don't really give a poo poo about politics, they have no say in it so why bother.

Anyway, anyone who thinks China is in any way democratic is a loving moron. Don't waste your time with them.



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