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Holy poo poo Lower Decks is the best Star Trek TV series and the best Star Trek movie now too! That was really good. I'm going to be sad when this is over and there is a long wait for season 2.
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the engineering scene with rutherford and billups was a fun technobabble and character building moment also
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Oct 1, 2020 12:56
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If I had any doubts about this series, consider them all GONE. Wow, that was exceptional.
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Oct 1, 2020 13:05
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Jake Sisko should’ve been the journalist for the hostile interview a the beginning of PIC. There would’ve been more to work with Jake’s experience of hostile automatons. That would’ve had more tension, civility, and sympathy for both characters not the ST:TMZ reporter character they used.
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Oct 1, 2020 13:06
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Crusader posted:the engineering scene with rutherford and billups was a fun technobabble and character building moment also "Oh it's a movie, you can teleport whatever.. you can do some crazy teleport things in a movie"
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Oct 1, 2020 13:08
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Man, Mariner and Freeman doing therapy would've been great for them with a decent therapist. Oh my god the credits music. Oh my god the dramatic ship shots music. How did they make the music sound so much like the original without actually being it? Oh god the ship shots aren't ever stopping. Ahahah ridiculous new different warp effects every movie.
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Oct 1, 2020 13:16
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It's glorious.
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Oct 1, 2020 13:19
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Jeez, they really blew the FX budget this week. Haha. "You can do all sorts of beaming stuff in a movie!"
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Oct 1, 2020 13:35
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Two things stood out to me about this episode (which was otherwise probably the best of the season, although that's really not saying much): 1. Bringing up the idea that the prime directive might be bad actually and then doing nothing with it: it's been brought up before, both within and outside of Star Trek itself, so just throwing it out there like as though you're making a clever observation is lazy as gently caress. 2. No one knows Mariner is the captain's daughter? Isn't it in her personnel file? How did the captain keep it from the other high-ranking officers? If they'd said that Boimler didn't know I'd buy that; he seems pretty unobservant and generally clueless. But no one knows? What?
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Oct 1, 2020 13:53
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That was so good  So good I'll have to re-watch it just to get my comments in. Enjoyed it way too much.
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Oct 1, 2020 13:54
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The JJ bridge lens flare was spot on.
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Oct 1, 2020 14:05
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MikeJF posted:Oh my god the dramatic ship shots music. You are going to sit there and ADMIRE that starship until we feel you have sufficiently admired it. Less talk. More gazing in wonder. This episode was fantastic. Here's hoping they can hit this bar in season two. Speaking of bars, I am amused by the logo on the wall in the Cerritos crew lounge... 
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Oct 1, 2020 14:13
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I knew I knew that rat species from somewhere! It's from an early TNG episode where the enterprise has to try to broker peace between them and their neighbours, another race of lizard people they like to eat. The episode comedically ends with the rat-dude diplomat eating one of the lizard people diplomats while the enterprise crew was distracted. 
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Oct 1, 2020 14:35
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J33uk posted:Goodness me this weeks Lower Decks is exceptional. Oh it was fantastic. Really glad that Tendi got sick of Mariner’s psycho fantasy. Interested to see where they go next. But they really need to tweak Bradford’s character.
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Oct 1, 2020 14:36
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LOL the reason they always avoided exploring Mariner's character motivations was because they were saving it for a big set piece at the end of the season. I fuckin' called it back in August:Snowglobe of Doom posted:They lampshaded another issue in the latest episode when Ransom flat out asks Captain Freeman why she doesn't just kick Mariner off the ship and she just raises her eyebrow and doesn't answer. Weird decision. Episode was still great fun regardless.
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Oct 1, 2020 14:49
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Great episode.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:LOL the reason they always avoided exploring Mariner's character motivations was because they were saving it for a big set piece at the end of the season. I fuckin' called it back in August: It's all stuff that was pretty much shown in the preceding episodes, they just took the opportunity here to spell it out directly. (maybe to make sure everyone had gotten it before they move on it next week?)
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Oct 1, 2020 15:02
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hoping for more increasingly ridiculous iterations of [ACTIVITY] with [HISTORICAL FIGURE] on the holodeck slalom with Sarek
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Also, just from the next week preview: Picard: AI peoples will be oppressed and have to fight for their rights and recognition! Lower Decks: Exocomps can join Starfleet and they paint the uniform on and it's adorable! 
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MikeJF posted:It's all stuff that was pretty much shown in the preceding episodes, they just took the opportunity here to spell it out directly. (maybe to make sure everyone had gotten it before they move on it next week?) Yeah. It was a good episode by Lower Decks standards but it was just spelling out the thing we all knew. Mariner hates rules but cares about the people around her, which is... yes? Tendi and Rutherford still don't actually have personalities yet, and it's a little distressing that Boimler seems to be regressing as a character into a 'is spineless and useless' lazy joke button.
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Oct 1, 2020 15:38
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Modern Star Trek Megathread: when ya get to hell, tell the Pah-wraiths that SHAXS SENT YA
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Drone posted:Modern Star Trek Megathread: when ya get to hell, tell the Pah-wraiths that SHAXS SENT YA 
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Oct 1, 2020 15:59
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Crusader posted:hoping for more increasingly ridiculous iterations of [ACTIVITY] with [HISTORICAL FIGURE] on the holodeck Dabo with Damar.
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Oct 1, 2020 15:59
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Tongo with Tuvok
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Oct 1, 2020 16:05
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Transporting with Tuvix Too soon?
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Oct 1, 2020 16:39
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Transporting with Sonak More informative
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MikeJF posted:Also, just from the next week preview: lol
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Oct 1, 2020 16:50
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The episode had me with the long Cerritos flyby.
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This was the best episode so far, by a lot. Agreed with Tiggum that's not saying a lot, but I also want to point out that it's funny the most "Star Trek" thing so far is a parody of the movies we've talked about not being "Star Trek" enough. The Holodeck movie felt a lot like Galaxy Quest, really. This episode also has some factors I'll decide if they're good after next episode if the characters have any growth. Oh, and the mother-daughter thing isn't interesting in the slightest as a secret.
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Oct 1, 2020 18:30
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That was fun. And I really hope the showrunners release a soundtrack. I want a clean copy of the TWOK-lite score.
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Oct 1, 2020 18:39
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I propose we extend Lower Decks to an hour, and cut Discovery to 25 min each ep.
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Super Deuce posted:Oh, and the mother-daughter thing isn't interesting in the slightest as a secret. Tiggum posted:Two things stood out to me about this episode (which was otherwise probably the best of the season, although that's really not saying much): The only way this works if you think about it is if nobody on the show has bothered at any point to establish each other's surnames.
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Oct 1, 2020 18:44
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Alchenar posted:The only way this works if you think about it is if nobody on the show has bothered at any point to establish each other's surnames. Well Mariner's surname is Beckett and the Captain's surname is Freeman.
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Thom12255 posted:Well Mariner's surname is Beckett and the Captain's surname is Freeman. I just checked imdb and apparently her surname in Mariner and her firstname is Beckett. Which does answer that question but raises yet more. And it's not like there hasn't been time to explore this stuff, there's been an entire episode where Mariner and Freeman were alone together.
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Oct 1, 2020 19:08
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Yeah I think everyone is being referred to by last name.
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Mariner is starting to chill out a bit, which is nice, but Boimler is just taking a nosedive and it kind of sucks. I think my issue is that it feels like punching down, the dude's just an ensign so he's already at the bottom so him continuing to be the butt of jokes or continuously poo poo on by the plot and cast isn't funny, it's mean. It also doesn't help that any wins he gets are immediately taken away by things like "oh it was a parasite, I guess no one actually loves him" or "oh look, Mariner set up the Ferengi thing, she's always hypercompetent" or the whole entire plot of going to the planet for medical anomalies. I guess my problem is I don't like characters as punching bags when they don't really deserve it, he's not Jerry from Rick & Morty, he seems more like a less competent Barkley. About the episode I would bet money that in-universe Mariner has been working on that holodeck movie for quite a while, she just now has a group of friends that will fill out the cast
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Oct 1, 2020 19:27
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Sexual Aluminum posted:I propose we extend Lower Decks to an hour, and cut Discovery to 25 min each ep. How about we extend Lower Decks by 13 episodes and just cut Discovery?
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Oct 1, 2020 19:43
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Zaroff posted:How about we extend Lower Decks by 13 episodes and just cut Discovery? Tough but fair
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What if we memory hole Enterprise and extend Lower Decks by however long that ran?
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