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That was a postgame passenger? Huh, then I guess it makes sense that she was a bit more bare bones. And yeah, I made that mistake. Twice.
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I basically ended up giving fruit all the time, and the passengers that didn't want it got popcorn, plain rice or fruity pies. It's a good thing I didn't care about 100%ing Spiritfarer from the get-go.
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moosecow333 posted:That was a postgame passenger? Huh, then I guess it makes sense that she was a bit more bare bones. Yeah, there is a post game passenger and a post-game ability that improves fishing and mining which is so laughable as a post game ability it feels like a sick joke. I also annoyingly didn't get the optional dnd nerd until the end game and screwed myself up for progression something fierce. Its also a little annoying how to retrigger his minigame is different from everyone else and isn't explained.
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Sep 29, 2020 10:36
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Shadow of War: In the final mission you have who have a boss who alters between an attack you must counter, and an attack you must dodge. The thing is after a certain point he'll just spam the second attack over and over again with no way to hit him. I have no clue if the game has soft-locked because I can't progress at all, even after reloading on death. It's also a terrible idea to mix the above traditional boss on the same field as a battle of randomly-generated orcs. There's too much poo poo going on to properly concentrate and there's little opportunity to dodge the spears and arrows thrown your way.
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I was enjoying ReCore till (what I assume is) the final mission. You work your way through different ‘Floors’, each with several arena battles. Each of these battles can be tediously long and you start right back at the beginning of the battle if you die. I spent a couple of evenings fighting my way to about half way through Floor 3. I looked up how close to the end I was (never a good sign), discovered there were another two floors after this one and stopped. It’s just a grind by this point.
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Sep 30, 2020 07:24
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Shadow of War: Originally once you beat the campaign you'd have to grind though 20 sieges just to see the three-minute ending-cinematic. They later patched this to five sieges and added a punch of features and polish to this section. I'd rather they just have a skip-ahead button because after 30 hours you've beaten all the campaigns content and everything else is randomly-generated post-game fluff. Imagine if you couldn't watch the last five minutes of FFX unless you sat through six hours of Blitzball after beating Sin.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:07
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Imagine if you couldn't watch the last five minutes of FFX unless you sat through six hours of Blitzball after beating Sin. Or going around the world engaging in meaningless cutscenes and other missable stuff just to get 100% to see a couple minutes of cutscene at the end haha that'd be nuts right. Though, yeah, it feels like they added that at the end because they (or, more likely, the publisher) realized they could sell some lootboxes if they added extra padding to use them on.
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Sep 30, 2020 15:17
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Shadow of War: Originally once you beat the campaign you'd have to grind though 20 sieges just to see the three-minute ending-cinematic. They later patched this to five sieges and added a punch of features and polish to this section. I'd rather they just have a skip-ahead button because after 30 hours you've beaten all the campaigns content and everything else is randomly-generated post-game fluff. The worst example of this I've seen in recent years is Octopath Traveler. All eight of the party members have four chapters that go through their own personal story, but have a couple of plot threads that connect to other party story's plot threads, which are all finally resolved in the finale chapter. The finale chapter is roughly estimated as having an average level requirement about twenty levels higher than the party member finales, and is designed around the assumption that you're using the advanced secret jobs that you need to complete SEPARATE bonus dungeons to unlock. And you have to do it to learn what the hell's 'really' going on.
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Cleretic posted:The worst example of this I've seen in recent years is Octopath Traveler. All eight of the party members have four chapters that go through their own personal story, but have a couple of plot threads that connect to other party story's plot threads, which are all finally resolved in the finale chapter. I really enjoyed Octopath traveler... for like two hours. Then all the stupid “way too separated” issues started popping up and it lost me pretty quick.
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I 'beat' Arkham Knight but I sure as poo poo didn't bother pick up every riddler trophy to see the credits. Why does Batman need to pick them up this time? He's got a lot more pressing poo poo to wrap up at the moment. A game ought to have three kinds of endings regarding completion. The bad ending if you take a shortcut or give-up, the normal ending for beating the campaign that resolves the story and ties every loose end, and the extra ending scene as a reward for collecting all the enchanted ding-dongs. There's a reason Super Mario 64 only requires 70/120 stars to beat the game. If nothing is optional then everything is an obligation. Inspector Gesicht has a new favorite as of 21:18 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Shadow of War: Originally once you beat the campaign you'd have to grind though 20 sieges just to see the three-minute ending-cinematic. They later patched this to five sieges and added a punch of features and polish to this section. I'd rather they just have a skip-ahead button because after 30 hours you've beaten all the campaigns content and everything else is randomly-generated post-game fluff.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:A game ought to have three kinds of endings regarding completion. The bad ending if you take a shortcut or give-up, the normal ending for beating the campaign that resolves the story and ties every loose end, and the extra ending scene as a reward for collecting all the enchanted ding-dongs. Make it an UFO ending a la the Silent Hill games. Irrelevant to the plot and silly, and hey, you worked really hard so you deserve something extra. Your friends will just look it up on Youtube, but not you, you will treasure those two minutes of quickly drawn sketches!
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Morpheus posted:Though, yeah, it feels like they added that at the end because they (or, more likely, the publisher) realized they could sell some lootboxes if they added extra padding to use them on. I think it's probably because after the first one there were hundreds of people saying "Man, I'd like a game that's just 40 hours of messing around with the nemesis system". Careful what you wish for! The game is just kind of too much in general. The goofy orcs from the first were fun but now every third orc is a goofy orc and it's just annoying. On a related note the orcs in general slid a bit too far to the right on the menacing monster<--->cockney goofball continuum to the point where they don't really work as bad guys for me anymore. The skill tree is about 3 times as big as it needed to be. The player and orcs and gear all having exp levels is totally unnecessary and is clearly in service of the now defunct "get the player to buy exp boosters and orcs from us" business model. There's something like 8 orc tribes, including 2 that are paid dlc, with various different attributes but they all blend together so the only difference you pay attention to is the set bonus on the gear they drop. Too many little doodads on the map you have to run to and press RB on and if you get all 50 you unlock a skill...
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Speaking of fantasy stuff, I'm always trying to get into more RPGs, but there seems to be this rule that when there is voice-overs in RPGs, that every line has to be delivered incredible slowly and deliberately to give a sense of epic grandeur, even down to the most throwaway lines. I bet most of these games would shave about ten hours off of playtime if people delivered lines like a normal person would.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:A game ought to have three kinds of endings regarding completion. The bad ending if you take a shortcut or give-up, the normal ending for beating the campaign that resolves the story and ties every loose end, and the extra ending scene as a reward for collecting all the enchanted ding-dongs. Hollow Knight does this really well, IMO. It provides several endings depending on how much of a completionist you are. Even the weakest one is reasonably satisfying. I didn't even get to the second one because I apparently suck too much at platforming and could never defeat those mantis bosses in the Queen's Garden. (Spoiler alert on the link below) https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Endings_(Hollow_Knight) - Beat the game by following all the leads straight to the final boss, picking up what weapons and powerups you chance upon on your way. When you beat the big chained-up boss, you get a pretty dramatic reveal as a payoff: it turns out the boss was once YOU (or rather, a previous incarnation of you), who was sacrificed to take the infection into his body to contain it. You are chained up in his place and infected, and soon adventurers will come to challenge you in an attempt to cleanse the world of your corruption Credits roll. - Explore more of the world, find an unexpected ally in a remote part of the map. Acquire a special weapon. You get help during the final boss fight, and if you play your cards right, you get to a tougher boss fight, which ends with actually purging the evil infection from the world. - In addition to the above, play through a bonus area full of super tough boss fights. Re-beat every boss you encountered in the game again in a powered-up version, followed by new ultra-hard top bosses. Then you get to fight the SECRET final boss, who caused the infection to begin with. Hippie Hedgehog has a new favorite as of 12:33 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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The Moon Monster posted:I think it's probably because after the first one there were hundreds of people saying "Man, I'd like a game that's just 40 hours of messing around with the nemesis system". Careful what you wish for! there were so many times I'd be fighting like three guys who had just introduced themselves only to be interrupted by a fourth, fifth, and sixth guy shouting OI GRAVEWALKAH BETCHA THOUGHT OL BOOTSLUT WERE DEAD so yeah, too much is about right
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Dimwit! (I do love that that was Nolan North)
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Karma Tornado posted:there were so many times I'd be fighting like three guys who had just introduced themselves only to be interrupted by a fourth, fifth, and sixth guy shouting OI GRAVEWALKAH BETCHA THOUGHT OL BOOTSLUT WERE DEAD so yeah, too much is about right Mods, change my name to Ol' Bootslut. marshmallow creep has a new favorite as of 02:33 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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Oct 1, 2020 02:30
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In Cadence of Hyrule, one of the many random equippable items you find is the good ol' Iron Boots, which weigh you down so you're no longer affected by wind affects and such. All good, except I just put on a pair, then found a secret area that required me to float up on some air currents to get into it...looks like I'm SOL because there doesn't seem to be a way to unequip the boots. Extra annoying because you can do that for at least one other type in the game.
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Are you sure they were Iron Boots and not Cement Shoes? :P
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Ruffian Price posted:Dimwit! I think Shadow of War has an insane gathering of male voice actors voicing nemesis orcs, and because they each do several variations its very likely that one of those will remind you of a different role they did. Also, Kumail Nanjiani sounding like Kumail Nanjiani. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txvKrTplOVs&t=235s Mierenneuker has a new favorite as of 08:34 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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Oct 1, 2020 07:36
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The mordor games both had massive file-sizes for their eras (40gb in 2014, 100gb in 2017). Since none of the maps where especially full of detail I'm going to assume most of the space is eaten up by orc-taunts.
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What are the best and worst stop-gap side-games? This is when to fill the gap between two major installments of a franchise a smaller side-game is made, usually by another studio under the same publisher, and it repurposes the same engine and a number of assets. Sometimes it's intended to release on last-gen hardware. Positive: Borderlands TPS, Bioshock 2, Fallout New Vegas Haven't Played: Resident Evil 3 (1999), all those later Mega Man titles on the NES, Persona 4 was made in just a year out of recycled parts and spawned a franchise. GTA: Vice City and San Andreas. Tepid: Far Cry Primal. This game has no reason to exist when you can just play Horizon Zero Dawn instead. Final Fantasy X-2, this game has merit but it's incredibly embarrassing to be seen playing. loving Sucks: Arkham Origins. No question about it. I played it for the first time in 2018 and it still blew. The unfixed bugs, the boring map, the wasted storyline, the missable challenges.
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Oct 1, 2020 22:12
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San Andreas is the best GTA game, no contest.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What are the best and worst stop-gap side-games? This is when to fill the gap between two major installments of a franchise a smaller side-game is made, usually by another studio under the same publisher, and it repurposes the same engine and a number of assets. Sometimes it's intended to release on last-gen hardware. Does that Wolfenstein game that came out last year count? I typically enjoy shooters, but I straight up noped out of that one after a few attempts. EVERYTHING was bullet spongey, and there was none of the fun and campy violence of the first one. Such a downer. In the same vein as Primal, but Blood Dragon was pretty boring outside of the admittedly humorous tutorial opener. I never played the Martian/space game from 5 but I imagine it was "not good." Does DLC count? FO:NV had that grimdark Treasure of Sierra Madre thing with some supremely awful mechanics for a good chunk of it. Clouds of gas that would kill you making navigating the word even MORE annoying, obnoxious new enemy type, and more stuff I'm probably forgetting.
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Vice City and San Andreas are side games? I know they're in between 3 and 4 but that doesn't seem right. Maybe VC but if a side game is smaller, SA is considerably bigger in many aspects than GTA 3. Edit: ah, I see those are in the "Haven't Played" group so that would explain it.
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Vice City and San Andreas were built fairly quickly by today's standards, since it was effectively GTA3 with a load of new crap bolted on. GTA4 was ground zero with a new engine, which inevitably disappointed people since it lacked all the cool features from SA and instead offered the world's brownest color-palette. I played SA only up to the train level, like a lot of people. The same thing was with Baldur's Gate. The sequel is twice as big as the original with none of the dreadful filler, as it was built on the slightly engine of the first game which allowed for a faster production-pipeline. The immediate next game by Bioware was Neverwinter Nights, made on a new 3D engine. I've only played it for ten minutes but I do know that nobody is nostalgic for Neverwinter Nights. Inspector Gesicht has a new favorite as of 22:48 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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Vice city was created in something like eight months after GT3 became a smash success. The stories games originally for PSP are also good side games, vcs especially had a ton of cool features that should've been brought forward, instead they barely got played
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What are the best and worst stop-gap side-games? This is when to fill the gap between two major installments of a franchise a smaller side-game is made, usually by another studio under the same publisher, and it repurposes the same engine and a number of assets. Sometimes it's intended to release on last-gen hardware. Stalker: Clear Sky was pretty bad, with mostly the same locations as ShoC, possibly the worst first level in an FPS as regards the rest of the game, and you got robbed quite often, for someone who has some fairly large guns. The swamp was a horrible level, with lovely inaccurate guns, huge amounts of radioactivity everywhere and boars that just loved to ambush you and eat your face off. To even leave the place you needed to run a gauntlet of miniguns, and then fend off laser accurate grenades for the rest of the game. But, on the plus side, I now know how to express my dominance in Russian and call someone a donkey at the same time, which is nice.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What are the best and worst stop-gap side-games? This is when to fill the gap between two major installments of a franchise a smaller side-game is made, usually by another studio under the same publisher, and it repurposes the same engine and a number of assets. Sometimes it's intended to release on last-gen hardware. I beat HZD twice and then moved on to Far Cry Primal. I really liked the language aspect of it - it seemed pretty ballsy. But yeah, its a poor man's HZD.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:The mordor games both had massive file-sizes for their eras (40gb in 2014, 100gb in 2017). Since none of the maps where especially full of detail I'm going to assume most of the space is eaten up by orc-taunts. They're all so long too! I tried to replay SoW recently and I backstabbed an orc general and fought him for a second, then he finally activated and did his little faceoff - so he stepped back and delivered like 3 sentences of whatever bullshit, as my character stood passively to the side just letting this half-dead orc taunt him before I was finally given control again. I uninstalled shortly after.
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They really should have had some in-game work-around for the orc encounters. If you can turn off looting-animations in games about looting, then you should be able to skip the foreplay in a game about loving (things up). I do think Shadow of War is a better game all around than Mordor. Ninety-percent of Mordor's content has nothing to do with the Nemesis system, and the Nemesis system itself only has to be engaged with twice: Kill all the warchiefs in the first zone, brand all the warchiefs in the second zone. War's world is larger and more visually-appealing, there are no tedious rescue-missions, herb-picking and animal-hunting is gone, and all the little systems feed into one another. The game's controversial launch overshadows it's actual, better state since 2018. While it's dumb that the short ending-scene is locked behind grinding, the ending itself is satisfying and conclusive despite how eye-rolling the rest of the story is.
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I don't care how fun Saints Row: Gat out of Hell might hypothetically be to play, but the fact that it doesn't have any sort of radio is decidedly un-boss.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What are the best and worst stop-gap side-games? This is when to fill the gap between two major installments of a franchise a smaller side-game is made, usually by another studio under the same publisher, and it repurposes the same engine and a number of assets. Sometimes it's intended to release on last-gen hardware.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What are the best and worst stop-gap side-games? This is when to fill the gap between two major installments of a franchise a smaller side-game is made, usually by another studio under the same publisher, and it repurposes the same engine and a number of assets. Sometimes it's intended to release on last-gen hardware. Majora's Mask is one of the better Zelda games and did a lot with mostly recycled assets. Made in under a year too, I'm pretty sure.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:They really should have had some in-game work-around for the orc encounters. If you can turn off looting-animations in games about looting, then you should be able to skip the foreplay in a game about loving (things up). Speaking of that, in Shadow of War when an enemy drops loot you have to walk up to and press R1 to do a 2 second or so animation where you suck it into your glowing hammer. Since killing a captain will almost inevitably leave a mob of 10 more fodder orcs milling around you almost always end up taking a bunch of hits picking the drat loot up (unless you want to waste time pointlessly killing random nameless orcs, I guess). You eventually unlock an upgrade where you automatically pick up loot by walking over it. Just make it work like that without the upgrade! Similarly you can almost always fast travel when you're not on a quest, except sometimes you can't! I don't know why! You just have to run around for awhile until whatever was aggroing you stops aggroing you, or something. Talion can escape from any situation more or less effortlessly so just let me fast travel all the time!
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Inspector Gesicht posted:The same thing was with Baldur's Gate. The sequel is twice as big as the original with none of the dreadful filler, as it was built on the slightly engine of the first game which allowed for a faster production-pipeline. The immediate next game by Bioware was Neverwinter Nights, made on a new 3D engine. I've only played it for ten minutes but I do know that nobody is nostalgic for Neverwinter Nights. Neverwinter Nights was a single-player campaign, multiplayer functionality and a toolset to make your own modules. Any fondness will come from the combination of the latter two. The original campaign was dreadful and probably felt like a huge step back to everybody who played Baldur’s Gate. You only could have one companion for example. The first expansion was still rather meh, but ended up being a fine prologue to the second expansion since you could export your character between the two.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:
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Regardless of how you rate the other Arkham games Blackgate is the worst by a wide margin. It's not even conceptually a bad idea (2D Arkham metroidvania) it's just terribly executed.
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Remasters that either vastly improve and polish the core game and meshes new content like an organ transplant, or haphazardly adds in new crap and unbalances the experience. REsident Evil HD: Effectively makes the original obsolete. Timeless graphics, more professional but still hilarious, voice-acting multiple control-schemes, seamlessly adds in the Lisa Trevor subplot, and makes the game more challenging with the Crimson Heads and a broken doorknob. Chris still sucks compared to Jill though. Majora's Mask 3D: A more convenient journal that tracks every single quest and heart-piece. A conventional save-system. Runs at 30fps and doesn't require you to be a three-handed alien to control the thing. Twinmold is kind of bullshit hard. Baldur's Gate EE: QOL features appreciated but every attempt to add to the canon makes my teeth clench. They force onto you these companions Beamdog really wants you to find agreeable, when original characters like Edwin didn't give a poo poo if you liked him or not. Went ahead and made a 20-hour fanfiction expansion nobody asked for. Thank god Larian is making Baldur's Gate III instead of Beamdog.
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