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Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

piratepilates posted:

Mariner realized that maybe you shouldn't cast the Orion person as a stereotype, but Tendi realizes that yeah actually stereotypes are sometimes true? Tendi should have just accepted the apology and forgave. I'm not sure what they were going for by having her meet her in the middle.

It’s Star Trek. Every non-human race is a walking stereotype centred around one defining characteristic.

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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Grand Fromage posted:

It's cool, I was being kind of a dick about it in retrospect, sorry.

I get what you meant by it, so it's fine. It was a bit irrational, I probably shouldn't have posted while I was still in "WTF?!?" mode, like after some thought obviously a joke like that wouldn't fly in the show as we've seen it.

tractor fanatic
Sep 9, 2005

Pillbug
Boimler dotting his i with a starfleet emblem is the best touch

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




I've only seen the first JJ Trek but when they got to the bridge and there were all those lens flares I had a good, hearty laugh over that. That and the TWoK fly around the ship was :kiss:

Seemlar
Jun 18, 2002

Aces High posted:

I've only seen the first JJ Trek but when they got to the bridge and there were all those lens flares I had a good, hearty laugh over that. That and the TWoK fly around the ship was :kiss:

To add some context to that joke that gets made about how you can do anything with transporters in movies, in the second Abrams movie a character uses a personal transporter to beam directly from Earth to the Klingon homeworld

mr. unhsib
Sep 19, 2003
I hate you all.
I was so unprepared for that episode. What a goddamn delight. My wife was confused by the extended approach sequence to the Cerritos so afterwards I showed her the inspiration from The Motion Picture and she nearly died laughing.

What's the best site for enumerating all the Easter Eggs in Lower Decks episodes? Because that episode had a LOT

MikeJF posted:

Also, just from the next week preview:

Picard: AI peoples will be oppressed and have to fight for their rights and recognition!

Lower Decks: Exocomps can join Starfleet and they paint the uniform on and it's adorable!



These are from that TNG episode where Data figured out they were sentient, right?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I'm a week behind but the trial episode for Episode 8 was very funny. It was nice to see both John DeLancie and also Kurtwood Smith back again.

the Roga Danar joke was such a random deep cut at the beginning, but apparently the show writers frequently talk about that character in the writer's room for some reason

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
Tbf I also thought it was the British meat product...

Like I knew it wasnt the intent just really unfortunate that it could be interpreted that way.

Anyway that episode was fun. I laughed when he got takcled and someone screamed something in the background.

Give nerds more low stakes shows please.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




mr. unhsib posted:


What's the best site for enumerating all the Easter Eggs in Lower Decks episodes? Because that episode had a LOT

some guy on reddit does a canon references thread each week

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

MikeJF posted:

How did they make the music sound so much like the original without actually being it?

James Horner made a career out of plagiarizing Prokofiev and Shostakovich almost note-for-note (and then later plagiarizing himself), so the Lower Decks composer just swapping a note here and there is just keeping with tradition.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm a week behind but the trial episode for Episode 8 was very funny. It was nice to see both John DeLancie and also Kurtwood Smith back again.

the Roga Danar joke was such a random deep cut at the beginning, but apparently the show writers frequently talk about that character in the writer's room for some reason

Roga finally getting the love he deserves.

mr. unhsib
Sep 19, 2003
I hate you all.
Roga Danar was a loving bad-rear end, more people should watch The Hunted.

The Enterprise approach from The Motion Picture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xox2IVxvIJw
God, it's even more ponderous than I remembered.


Awesome!

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Brawnfire posted:

In the context of the two of them talking about running away together, it almost seemed like a homophobic slur starting with "F".

In all honesty, the only thing I heard for the bleep was "Godspeed, ya crazy fucks," which I think fits perfectly with T'Ana's character so far. The other possibility didn't even occur to me, and I genuinely don't know if that marks me as not-prejudiced, or just... well, privileged. Still, the fact that the other F-word is even a possibility here is definitely an oversight by the writers. Somebody should have called that out before the final cut.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


mr. unhsib posted:

Roga Danar was a loving bad-rear end, more people should watch The Hunted.

The Enterprise approach from The Motion Picture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xox2IVxvIJw
God, it's even more ponderous than I remembered.


Awesome!

Jesus christ it's six minutes long.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

mr. unhsib posted:

These are from that TNG episode where Data figured out they were sentient, right?

It might also be a reference to the Star Trek Online MMORPG where the Exocomps have joined the Federation and are serving as crew on some starships.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

mr. unhsib posted:

Roga Danar was a loving bad-rear end, more people should watch The Hunted.

The Enterprise approach from The Motion Picture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xox2IVxvIJw
God, it's even more ponderous than I remembered.


Awesome!

I keep forgetting is it even longer in the Director's Cut and they cut it down for the Theatrical Cut, or did the DC pare it back because it went on too drat long?

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




nine-gear crow posted:

I keep forgetting is it even longer in the Director's Cut and they cut it down for the Theatrical Cut, or did the DC pare it back because it went on too drat long?

No changes to the flyby.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

MikeJF posted:

No changes to the flyby.

Really? Because I strongly recall there being a version that only has like the important beauty shots of the ship and then is straight to business after like 2 minutes, 3 tops. Maybe it was someone's YouTube edit or a TV cut. Huh...

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


MikeJF posted:

Also, I'm unsure whether Rutherford has a hero-worship man-crush, or an actual crush expressed through the medium of engineering nerdery. I kinda hope the latter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queerbaiting

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
It just struck me: it's not an uncommon trope in SF and fantasy for a hero to have to face a personification of their dark side who points out all their worst flaws, and becomes a stronger person as a result of gaining self-knowledge.

In this case, Mariner is her own dark side, and gains self-knowledge by having her reflection remind her of all her good aspects. I like it.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
The Exocomp’s name is Peanut Hamper.

I love this show.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
So it turns out Ensign Fletcher, the fuckup from episode 6, wasn't a sudden addition from the episode. You can see him in the background of some of the earlier episodes, like Temporal Edict.

A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Oct 2, 2020

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Billups just bawling in the shuttlecraft during the flyby seriously had me in tears on the rewatch :lol:

TomR
Apr 1, 2003
I both own and operate a pirate ship.
It's really nice to see so many people genuinely enjoying a Star Trek again. My kid gets up Thursday mornings to watch Lower Decks before school now. It's great.

I really don't care for Discovery or Picard. Even if they were "good" it's not what I want from a Star Trek TV show anyway. It's nice to have a show that feels like it's for me.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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TomR posted:

It's really nice to see so many people genuinely enjoying a Star Trek again. My kid gets up Thursday mornings to watch Lower Decks before school now. It's great.

I really don't care for Discovery or Picard. Even if they were "good" it's not what I want from a Star Trek TV show anyway. It's nice to have a show that feels like it's for me.
That’s ok, neither of those are good.

Disco is ok but Picard I have soured on more and more as time goes by

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe
Man, that lens flare porn! I loved it.

I also dug the signatures thing at the very end. I forget which movie that was from, but I distinctly remember seeing that in the theater and thinking, "Well, it wasn't as good as Kahn, but it wasn't a horrible note for the movie franchise to go out on."

I liked a lot of the jokes and all that, but the whole therapy aspect of it (other than Food Pun Bird) really felt a little too on-the-nose for me. I feel like the writers are still narrowing down what they want the show to be: reference humor, workplace sitcom (set in an established universe), or generic cartoon with morality plays.

Whatever it was, it mostly worked for me.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
With my luck LDS only runs for two seasons and gets the axe in favour of another prestige project: Beverly MD

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

tarlibone posted:

I also dug the signatures thing at the very end. I forget which movie that was from, but I distinctly remember seeing that in the theater and thinking, "Well, it wasn't as good as Kahn, but it wasn't a horrible note for the movie franchise to go out on."

Undiscovered Country

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

lmao i didn’t catch rutherford dropping weed references during his technobabble the first time around

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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"using too many food metaphors" is such a minor but effectively infuriating character trait for a therapist

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe

Phylodox posted:

Undiscovered Country

Thank you! God, that was killing me.

Man... talk about how forgettable a movie can be where a fan of the franchise went to a theater and saw the movie on the big screen, and the two things he remembers are 1) this is the movie that they say wraps up the franchise; and 2) oh neat, the actors signed the film in the end credits!

It's a shame, too. Now that I think about it, that movie wasn't horrible. I especially like the one part where they're quoting Shakespeare, and the Klingon says something (I think about breathing room), and Kirk cites the quote, "Earth; Hitler; 1938."

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Crusader posted:

lmao i didn’t catch rutherford dropping weed references during his technobabble the first time around

same and it made me laugh when I caught it

e: and I just noticed Gary Cole in the credits so now I have to watch it again to see where he shows up!

Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Oct 2, 2020

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

tarlibone posted:

Man... talk about how forgettable a movie can be where a fan of the franchise went to a theater and saw the movie on the big screen, and the two things he remembers are 1) this is the movie that they say wraps up the franchise; and 2) oh neat, the actors signed the film in the end credits!

I mean...it’s largely considered to be one of the best, if not the best, Star Trek films. Taste is subjective, though, of course.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Anyone got an image of that Klingon ktinga/bird of prey hybrid or whatever

Specific movie parodies that I noticed, besides what's been mentioned:
Random swearing
Brutal death scenes for crew members
Destroying the ship
Bad guy in a cloaked Klingon ship
Incongruous on-location action setpiece to open it up
Highly militarized assault phaser rifles

What else?

zoux fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Oct 2, 2020

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Phylodox posted:

I mean...it’s largely considered to be one of the best, if not the best, Star Trek films. Taste is subjective, though, of course.
I go back and forth between WoK and TUC for my favorite

They are very different movies so it’s hard to compare

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

FlamingLiberal posted:

I go back and forth between WoK and TUC for my favorite

They are very different movies so it’s hard to compare

This is why I just don't believe in favourite movies, anymore.

I have dozens of favourite movies.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
TUC is definitely the TOS movie I remember most fondly. I suspect I’d probably pick it as my “favourite” TOS movie in a head to head re-watch marathon.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Martytoof posted:

Billups just bawling in the shuttlecraft during the flyby seriously had me in tears on the rewatch :lol:

All of them in the shuttle looking like they were on the edge of cumming was hilarious.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


Mariner quoting Shakespeare is a nod to ST6 as well, except she quotes The Tempest (I'm trusting the XO here) instead of whatever Chang quotes (Macbeth?).

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Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Humerus posted:

Mariner quoting Shakespeare is a nod to ST6 as well, except she quotes The Tempest (I'm trusting the XO here) instead of whatever Chang quotes (Macbeth?).

Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1.

(And a bunch of others).

It was a super good touch.

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