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56 | 42.75% |
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not caring here posted:Man, this is some piss poor, amateur level cover up bullshit even for the trump administration. I'm insulted. I missed one, it's not a polyclonal antibody, it's two monoclonal antibodies. It's a matryoshka doll of fuckups. That letter may have more fuckups than sentences.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 16:22 |
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To be fair, don't you want to not publicly say the president is in any sort of danger? Lest putin et al get ballsy and try to do something.
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Mustang posted:Pence doesn't do anything, most Americans know nothing about him. I have a hard time understanding how he would beat Biden, a guy that Americans have seen in national politics for decades. All the "Never Trump" Republicans that Biden has focused on attracting will suddenly have no reason to vote for the baby killing, flag hating socialist. Biden's campaign has been completely focused on showing how bad Trump is rather than how good Biden could be, and if Trump is out of the picture then that strategy completely falls apart. A lot of the reasons people hate Trump (he's stupid, he's rude) simply do not exist in Pence. He's the polite, competent fascist.
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Iain posted:To be fair, don't you want to not publicly say the president is in any sort of danger? Lest putin et al get ballsy and try to do something. I think all of our enemies watch the news, and know now would be a great time. They don't need an official statement.
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It's like when Kim jong-un disappeared and his sister started taking over. No one in charge wants to admit it, but when Ivanka holds a white house press conference, we'll know.
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Iain posted:To be fair, don't you want to not publicly say the president is in any sort of danger? Lest putin et al get ballsy and try to do something. Nope, you tell 100% of the truth, then say that VP Pence is on standby if anything goes wrong, and the Speaker of the House is on standby too. You tell everyone the complete truth and you demonstrate a plan that hits all of the worst-cases. Presidents have gone under anesthesia for colonoscopies before and it's been literally no big deal because of proper 25th Amendment delegations of authority. Instead, it's an information vacuum and everyone's running around blind. It's the same invitation for people to get ballsy.
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Iain posted:To be fair, don't you want to not publicly say the president is in any sort of danger? Lest putin et al get ballsy and try to do something. LMAO if you don't think they might send an infected agent or two to every event the president has.
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Fister Roboto posted:All the "Never Trump" Republicans that Biden has focused on attracting will suddenly have no reason to vote for the baby killing, flag hating socialist. Biden's campaign has been completely focused on showing how bad Trump is rather than how good Biden could be, and if Trump is out of the picture then that strategy completely falls apart. A lot of the reasons people hate Trump (he's stupid, he's rude) simply do not exist in Pence. He's the polite, competent fascist. I don't buy this at all. They're voting for Biden, Trump dies and so they vote for one of Trump's loyal minions? I find that hard to believe.
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Handsome Ralph posted:
Goon meet! Look for the bearded dude shrieking with joy, spraying champagne everywhere and bellowing “RIP IN PISS, TRUMP!” while shrouded in a cloud of tear gas.
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Wasabi the J posted:LMAO if you don't think they might send an infected agent or two to every event the president has. sounds like there has been more than an infected agent or two at all his recent ones
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Mustang posted:I don't buy this at all. They're voting for Biden, Trump dies and so they vote for one of Trump's loyal minions? I find that hard to believe. Do you really think Republicans would be this cognitively consistent?
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Goon meet! Look for the bearded dude shrieking with joy, spraying champagne everywhere and bellowing “RIP IN PISS, TRUMP!” while shrouded in a cloud of tear gas. But...I too am a bearded goon. Gonna be a lotta bearded and flannel wearing goons potentially celebrating in DC I guess! I am not remotely worried about Pence if Trump dies and suddenly he is the nominee for one simple reason, he was/is (can't even remember if they disbanded or not) head of the COVID response task force...which would have been presumably responsible for not only 200K dead but Trump dying or becoming incapacitated. It's not a great pitch. Also he has the charisma of a dead skunk on the side of the road for most people, no way he gets the cult of personality Trump enjoys.
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I don't even think Q could rally his supporters around Pence. Is Pence even featured in Q conspiracies anywhere?
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They're mostly gonna survive just fine and are gonna manage to be even more insufferable afterwards.
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Trump's date with the 'Rona doesn't win him any sympathy votes, does it? "That poor man, God bless him, I think I'll vote for him now." (assuming he doesn't go all ![]()
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Fister Roboto posted:Do you really think Republicans would be this cognitively consistent? Obviously not the ones currently voting for Trump but why would Never Trumpers vote for Pence? They also criticize Trump's COVID19 response so why would they vote for the head of the COVID19 Task Force? Never Trumpers rallying from Biden to Pence seems extremely unlikely.
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Because Never Trumpers are still Republicans. They want all the things that Trump promises, just without all of the Trump stink. That's what Pence is.
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Loden Taylor posted:I am hoping Trump lives, but if I'm being honest it's only because there's a good chance I'd be tasked to march in his funeral. I mean, breaking out a huge smile and putting an ostentatious skip in your step the moment the procession got in front of cameras would be totally worth whatever fallout you'd receive.
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Fister Roboto posted:Because Never Trumpers are still Republicans. They want all the things that Trump promises, just without all of the Trump stink. That's what Pence is. It's exactly this. With pence they can get everything they want without the stigma and constant wrangling of Trump. They can wizard-vanish the poop instead of spraying it all over the room, is what I'm saying.
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I know the capacity for Democrats to gently caress things up is nearly infinite, but at this point the polls are so dire it's looking like a Walter Mondale level blowout. If it's Pence vs Biden the last bit of personality cult is gone and it's an even bigger blowout. I don't know who the GOP turns to after this, but it sure isn't Pence. Maybe Kimberly Guilfoyle?
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Dan Crenshaw. Tom Cotton. The Young Assholes.
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Pryor on Fire posted:I know the capacity for Democrats to gently caress things up is nearly infinite, but at this point the polls are so dire it's looking like a Walter Mondale level blowout. If it's Pence vs Biden the last bit of personality cult is gone and it's an even bigger blowout. Tom loving Cotton.
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MA-Horus posted:Dan Crenshaw. Tom Cotton. The Young Assholes. Amazing how nobody gave a gently caress about Dan Crenshaw (at least to my knowledge) until Pete Davidson parodied him on SNL and took backlash, propelling him into the mainstream.
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Mr. Nice! posted:With 25 republicans all over 50 and most fat now positive, statistically speaking we’re at a point that 1-2 are going to die and 5-10 are going to have a really rough go at things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI
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Pryor on Fire posted:I know the capacity for Democrats to gently caress things up is nearly infinite, but at this point the polls are so dire it's looking like a Walter Mondale level blowout. If it's Pence vs Biden the last bit of personality cult is gone and it's an even bigger blowout. This post is giving me flashbacks to 2016.
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Fister Roboto posted:All the "Never Trump" Republicans that Biden has focused on attracting will suddenly have no reason to vote for the baby killing, flag hating socialist. Biden's campaign has been completely focused on showing how bad Trump is rather than how good Biden could be, and if Trump is out of the picture then that strategy completely falls apart. A lot of the reasons people hate Trump (he's stupid, he's rude) simply do not exist in Pence. He's the polite, competent fascist. Pence is thoroughly boring. He was not terribly popular in Indiana, even among Republicans. He got 49.5% of the Indiana vote in his gubernatorial race before becoming VP, winning by 3 points. Pence has been a bit of an Indiana laughing stock ever since he said Iraq reminded him of an Indiana open-air market. And then Rob Riggle interviewed Hoosier soldiers in Iraq for comment.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Trump's date with the 'Rona doesn't win him any sympathy votes, does it? "That poor man, God bless him, I think I'll vote for him now." (assuming he doesn't go all No consistent polling yet, only this: https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1312413340799586305?s=19
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Did we all collectively forget about Nikki Haley and her rumored unseating of Pence as VP for 2020?
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Pence is legitimately bad at politics. That said Biden and the Dem messaging that the problem is Trump, not Republicans... not a fan.
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mlmp08 posted:Pence is thoroughly boring. He was not terribly popular in Indiana, even among Republicans. He got 49.5% of the Indiana vote in his gubernatorial race before becoming VP, winning by 3 points. This is not going to prevent NeverTrumper Republicans from voting for him, because their main criterion is going to be that he is a Republican who is not Trump. They don't give a poo poo about anything else.
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Yeah but "never Trump Republicans" barely actually exist outside of editorial pages.
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Fister Roboto posted:This post is giving me flashbacks to 2016. The good, scientific polls gave Trump a 1/3 chance of winning 2016. He had nothing close to that in 2020 even before the debate. The notion that the polls were way off in 2016 is just a myth.
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New All Gas No Brakes featuring Proud Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DyTXpnFpZU Hekk fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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Best Friends posted:Yeah but "never Trump Republicans" barely actually exist outside of editorial pages. This is my take. And of those who exist in vulnerable states, how many are going to go from “not voting at all” to racing to the polls for Pence?
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mlmp08 posted:This is my take. And of those who exist in vulnerable states, how many are going to go from “not voting at all” to racing to the polls for Pence? Racing? Not many, but turnout matters and discouraged voters not being discouraged by their candidate any more may count for a lot. Obviously I have no numbers and nobody does, but I think it's not a concern that can be dismissed.
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Hekk posted:New All Gas No Brakes feature Proud Boys The leader of Proud Boys being Latino is some 2020 Clayton Bigsby poo poo if I've seen it. Do any of these fucksticks know what Communism/Socialism/Marxism actually are or is it the cool new thing they're using as a buzzphrase to get their point across?
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Sympathy votes only make sense if Trump catching COVID was a tragic event despite taking all proper precautions. The only people who say they would vote for him out of sympathy were likely gonna vote for him already, they just found a convenient excuse. It'd be like a candidate getting injured in a horrific car crash. Sure that'd generate some sympathy but I'm pretty sure that'd evaporate pretty fast if it came out the cause of the crash was due to the candidate driving while drunk. Pryor on Fire posted:The good, scientific polls gave Trump a 1/3 chance of winning 2016. He had nothing close to that in 2020 even before the debate. The notion that the polls were way off in 2016 is just a myth. Yeah, in retrospect it was pretty loving clear the polling was continuously tight between Clinton and Trump with Clinton only narrowly beating him within the MOE in some battleground polls. I think many, including myself, just figured there was no loving way he'd win but when Silver said something to the effect that he had the same chance of winning as a NFL kicker does of making a 40+ yard field goal, that's when I started getting nervous about poo poo. The fact that he only won by getting ~80K votes in the right states shows he's not this unbeatable force. Sure he could still win, but 2020 is a very very different election and Biden's lead in the polls and everything else has been consistent since June. If anything, the gap has grown wider not narrower. Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:The leader of Proud Boys being Latino is some 2020 Clayton Bigsby poo poo if I've seen it. Do any of these fucksticks know what Communism/Socialism/Marxism actually are or is it the cool new thing they're using as a buzzphrase to get their point across? My Nicaraguan friend (who's also a marine vet) calls the guy Uncle Rojas
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Best Friends posted:Yeah but "never Trump Republicans" barely actually exist outside of editorial pages. There's been a serious shift going on lately, with a bit more than just anecdotal information behind it: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/02/trump-suburbs-white-women-michigan-423870 Tl;dr on that one is that Slotkin won a Trump +7 district, recently sent a poll into the field in the midst of the protests/riots, expected a tie race, and instead found out she's leading by more than she ever has. Here's a view of the county (Hillary +9) from both D/R polling firms: https://twitter.com/ChadLivengood/status/1312090377588006919?s=19 So, Never Trump Republicans don't really exist. Trump-Biden Republicans appear to exist in large numbers.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Do any of these fucksticks know what Communism/Socialism/Marxism actually are or is it the cool new thing they're using as a buzzphrase to get their point across? No and it isn't a cool new thing. Idiot rear end conservatives have been using communism/socialism/Marxism as a boogeyman since Das Kapital.
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