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Hispanic! At The Disco
Dec 25, 2011


Stoatbringer posted:

Counterpoint:


Buddy...

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xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

How did I know exactly what you're referring to in one word?

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

sassassin posted:

Everyone waving a flag is a racist/nationalist.

Yeah, but then there are the people who have to come up with a different flag because the national one is indicating racism hard enough, and that seems to be where the confusion is.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


Mussolini didn't actually make the trains run on time. That was just a sarcastic joke that Italians told.

The modern equivalent would be "wow this is so much winning, I'm tired of all the winning."

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

there wolf posted:

Yeah, but then there are the people who have to come up with a different flag because the national one is indicating racism hard enough, and that seems to be where the confusion is.

My dad still puts a flag up. He’s a die hard Bernie supporter but was in the Air Force for 20 years. He’s a weird hybrid of Vermont style hippy who also loves rockets and space and also wants UHC and thinks libs suck because they aren’t progressive.

The only reason he was in the AF was because he was in the space program and got to build flight simulators and work on the space shuttle. :3:

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
Your dad sounds super cool

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Fister Roboto posted:

Mussolini didn't actually make the trains run on time. That was just a sarcastic joke that Italians told.

The modern equivalent would be "wow this is so much winning, I'm tired of all the winning."

I think the most generous interpretation of what Tracey is trying to say is like, remember at the beginning of the pandemic when every other person was falling for hoaxes that Trump was going to send in the national guard to keep everybody on lockdown? If he had cared about the virus he might have done something like that.

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

this only works if you accept the fairly-plausible assumption that Michael Tracey thinks "fascism" equals "use of force by the state"

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
You do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to Michael Tracey.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
https://twitter.com/redditships/status/1312815025292271624?s=21

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Captain Monkey posted:

You do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to Michael Tracey.

Unless “it” is “a flaming bag of dog poo poo,” of course.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012





Reminds me of those people who get tattoos that supposedly mean "strength" in Chinese but actually translate to "I like figure skating" (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Blackula Vs. Tarantula
Jul 6, 2005

😤I am NOT Captain_Redbeard🧔

Henchman of Santa posted:

I think the most generous interpretation of what Tracey is trying to say is like, remember at the beginning of the pandemic when every other person was falling for hoaxes that Trump was going to send in the national guard to keep everybody on lockdown? If he had cared about the virus he might have done something like that.

So he isn't saying he thinks fascist dictatorships are better at responding to threats than democracies, as fascists believe but is sometimes parroted uncritically by the ignorant, but that fascist dictatorships care about their citizens more than democracies? Which fascists claim but nobody really believes?

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Henchman of Santa posted:

I think the most generous interpretation of what Tracey is trying to say is like, remember at the beginning of the pandemic when every other person was falling for hoaxes that Trump was going to send in the national guard to keep everybody on lockdown? If he had cared about the virus he might have done something like that.

It's meant to be a "dig" at people responding to "Biden is a SOCIALIST who will implement TERRIBLE, EVIL policies like universal health care, climate change action, police accountability etc. etc." with "all of that sounds pretty cool, I wish Biden were actually a socialist." Michael Tracey tries to flip it against Trump critics and, being an idiot, both completely botches the execution and inadverdently admits that he thinks fascism is cool and good.

E: The point he thinks he's making is the standard centrist "leftism = socialism = communism = Stalin = Hitler" fallacy.

Zulily Zoetrope has a new favorite as of 21:05 on Oct 4, 2020

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

So he isn't saying he thinks fascist dictatorships are better at responding to threats than democracies, as fascists believe but is sometimes parroted uncritically by the ignorant, but that fascist dictatorships care about their citizens more than democracies? Which fascists claim but nobody really believes?

That would be about in line with his continued rightward slide so yes

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Gross Dude
Feb 5, 2007

Gross Dude
Do I want to know what CSEM is? I'm not googling it

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax
Certainly Some Edgy Malarkey

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

I mean. There's a lot of stuff I don't necessarily disagree with (find consenting adult partners, find resources to help manage your illness) but in what world would an admitted and self-aware pedophile be able to teach minors? At all? Surely the goal would be to avoid children??

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Gross Dude posted:

Do I want to know what CSEM is? I'm not googling it

Child porn

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Gross Dude posted:

Do I want to know what CSEM is? I'm not googling it

Child sexual exploitation material.

Kiddie porn.

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax
CSEM is "real children were harmed to make this" child porn as opposed to things like writing or drawings

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

More specifically CSEM is used to distinguish it from pornography where (theoretically at least) there is informed consent going on with all parties. Porn has its own problems but there is potential for it to be healthy where as CSEM does not have that.

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax
also, Jacobin did it again

https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1312806155962511360

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Whew, I was hoping it was not there but there we go. Literally just 'but we can't react angrily to someone expressing an interest in seeking out literal rape material'.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
Imagine being someone who thinks Trump has empathy.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Empathy is being able to feel for someone without having gone through their problem yourself. Sympathy is what you have when you care about something after you've gone through it. So even if you take his point at face value it's still wrong.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Inceltown posted:

Empathy is being able to feel for someone without having gone through their problem yourself. Sympathy is what you have when you care about something after you've gone through it. So even if you take his point at face value it's still wrong.

I think you have that mixed up, though I hate to say Scott Adams is correct for any reason.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

subpar anachronism posted:

I think you have that mixed up, though I hate to say Scott Adams is correct for any reason.

I think I do too, teach me to post before coffee

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

subpar anachronism posted:

I think you have that mixed up, though I hate to say Scott Adams is correct for any reason.

No, they were mostly right. Sympathy is when you reach an understanding of someone based on your own experience, Empathy is when you reach that understanding through knowing someone.

If someone loses a mom to COVID you'd have sympathy with them because you'd lost someone close to you from a disease, you'd have empathy with them because you understand how close they were to their mom. If Trump has greater understanding of the disease's tolls only after experiencing it himself that's definitely sympathy not empathy.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Peter became empathetic to people who had been bitten by spiders

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Skwirl posted:

No, they were mostly right. Sympathy is when you reach an understanding of someone based on your own experience, Empathy is when you reach that understanding through knowing someone.

If someone loses a mom to COVID you'd have sympathy with them because you'd lost someone close to you from a disease, you'd have empathy with them because you understand how close they were to their mom. If Trump has greater understanding of the disease's tolls only after experiencing it himself that's definitely sympathy not empathy.

This is not how most people use these words. Empathy connotes a shared emotion; sympathy is concern for someone without sharing their emotion. Someone who has not had COVID or a similar serious illness might have sympathy for those who do, but not empathy.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Henchman of Santa posted:

Peter became empathetic to people who had been bitten by spiders

Lol yeah I don't really get why he made the Parker connection. When I started reading it I was expecting him to say he'll come out of it stronger or some such but no the analogy makes no sense because Adams is just that incapable of making any.

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https://twitter.com/cryptodemedici/status/1311360086007312392





Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 00:02 on Oct 5, 2020

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



NOT A RAW.

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
I hope they enjoy their new parasite friends.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

That dude's Medium profile is a trip

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
https://twitter.com/sassygravy/status/1312840493391400960?s=19

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


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RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

"Honey is an enzyme" gets me the most, but I'm eternally yelling about recipes labeled "Sugar free (thing that definitely should have sugar in it,)" and then you read the recipe and it's full of honey.

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