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Some Guy TT posted:heres another choice bit complete loving moron, "feeling heaviness in the air" and "seeing blankness in people's eyes", and I'm supposed to wring my hands about china kicking out halfwit "journalists" like this, it's the best thing they did lol
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Sep 30, 2020 02:28
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*sees people outside enjoying meals and the sound of children laughter* Goddamn this is a hellhole
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Sep 30, 2020 03:47
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writing anti-china takes keeps them in china longer than pro-china takes b/c their employers will whip them out of there so fast
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Sep 30, 2020 05:32
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Sep 30, 2020 19:37
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https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1310605029980606464
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Oct 1, 2020 06:46
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Rabelais D posted:I don't get it; eliminating poverty is very good, as is controlling covid better than anyone else (except maybe Taiwan?), but cracking down on journalism is bad and can be called bad. The Washington Post article is, however, pretty terrible: Problem is poverty is defined same as in other countries, where it's looked at from a 1000 miles up and just pegged to a dollar amount rather than accomplishing a set of necessities. Just look at the U.S. poverty line for a single individual, as an example.
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Oct 1, 2020 07:54
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Homeless Friend posted:Problem is poverty is defined same as in other countries, where it's looked at from a 1000 miles up and just pegged to a dollar amount rather than accomplishing a set of necessities. Just look at the U.S. poverty line for a single individual, as an example. Paying lip service for eliminating proverty is still much better domestic policy than paying lip service for lowering tax or whatever. If by accomplishing a set of necessities you mean providing electricity/basic medical facilities/school to all I am pretty sure the Hu admin has done them.
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Oct 1, 2020 09:25
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Antonymous posted:writing anti-china takes keeps them in china longer than pro-china takes b/c their employers will whip them out of there so fast Having your anti china take in the back pocket seems like a good ripcord if you can't take it anymore
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Oct 1, 2020 14:55
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lol even if one disagrees with carl zha (and i mostly think he’s right here) it was extremely funny that noah just constantly got basic historical facts and timeline wrong
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Oct 1, 2020 15:49
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Oct 1, 2020 20:29
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sincx posted:holy poo poo, how dare these scheming mandarins talk to poor people 
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Oct 1, 2020 21:34
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Oct 2, 2020 00:49
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https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/10/04/2047136/intelligence-chief-stands-facebook-posts-calling-makabayan-reps-terroristsquote:MANILA, Philippines — The head of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency on Sunday disputed allegations that he is sharing false information on social media by posting unproven allegations that opposition lawmakers are members of the communist armed movement.
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Oct 4, 2020 12:42
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https://twitter.com/culttture/status/1312447023841374208
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Oct 4, 2020 16:17
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/10/04/2047136/intelligence-chief-stands-facebook-posts-calling-makabayan-reps-terrorists we're murdering leftists, as a joke
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Oct 4, 2020 16:32
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sincx posted:Other cases involve individuals who have come to the United States to gain access to “technologies that would be useful to Chinese military advancement or to the repression of their own people,” he added. finally, the admission that american schools teach students how to kill and repress
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Oct 4, 2020 16:34
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https://twitter.com/wokelandlord/status/1312875160622575616?s=20
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Oct 5, 2020 00:00
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https://twitter.com/YasmeenSerhan/status/1312736336651202561
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Oct 5, 2020 12:55
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Beijing also is trying to save Uyghers culture from fundamental Islam. 
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Oct 5, 2020 13:45
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i liked the constant references to sephardim in this article that was supposedly focused all around the ughyurs thats not even like the top ten most famously genocided race even in the context of spain being the genociders
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Oct 5, 2020 14:51
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I too believe theatlantic gives a bearded gently caress about the Uighurs in-between their op-eds telling americans how they deserve to die with no healthcare and the cops need more money
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Oct 5, 2020 17:19
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Malkina_ posted:I too believe theatlantic gives a bearded gently caress about the Uighurs in-between their op-eds telling americans how they deserve to die with no healthcare and the cops need more money There's a correct way to mass murder muslims, and it involves dropping hellfire missiles from 10,000 feet.
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Oct 5, 2020 17:21
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Antonymous posted:writing anti-china takes keeps them in china longer than pro-china takes b/c their employers will whip them out of there so fast is there anything else in china going on at all !! there's like a billion people there and news, information, anything about it in english gets drowned out with this poo poo. i guess i could learn mandarin to read chinese internet instead but that sounds tedious
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Oct 5, 2020 19:10
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CCTV has programming in English?
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Oct 5, 2020 19:13
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mila kunis posted:is there anything else in china going on at all !! there's like a billion people there and news, information, anything about it in english gets drowned out with this poo poo. i guess i could learn mandarin to read chinese internet instead but that sounds tedious get in a gossipy wechat group and use the built in translate function (which when I've used it is insanely better than google translate) but yeah idk, learning characters isn't practical even tho you can technically learn to read without needing to learn to speak too much? but that's insane, learning characters to be literate is a full time effort for a few years. There are english language chinese news sites if you want some more breadth Antonymous has issued a correction as of 19:33 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Oct 5, 2020 19:31
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Oct 5, 2020 20:01
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I think that's a good point to be made when seeing journalists and authors write 'authoritatively' but not have any connection to China or language ability. But suggesting you can't really learn international news without learning the language of each country in the world is silly. I'm sure that people can get a general idea of the US without needing English, it is harder for China but not impossible. And unless you have some weird specific interest in China but somehow don't speak chinese (then yeah learn it) I think it's OK to just read the english language sites... And really gossip and social media is more important than offical media Like if you could read english you'd be better off with twitter than a NYT subscription, better still to have a friend or two in the states who complains to you about whatever dumb newsworthy stuff is happening
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Oct 5, 2020 20:19
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Uighurs? I thought we were moving on to these guys https://twitter.com/justearthnews/status/1302566922978914306 https://twitter.com/Davis4Hk/status/1312155777856016384 lol https://twitter.com/SMES_Edu_India/status/1311716957360549888
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Oct 5, 2020 20:22
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Dear CIA if you're going to steal my shitposts and turn them into policy I demand a do-nothing think tank job that pays 100k thanks
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Oct 5, 2020 20:24
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The particularly egregious "save us Trump/the Queen/Modi" signs look like kneejerk "enemy of my enemy is my friend" signaling. Also see all the dumb "Azerbaijan/Turkey/Pakistan friends forever" posts on social media during the ongoing war. The internet has raised the public consciousness of internationalism, though it's still dumb and easily falls into dividing other countries into good guys and bad guys. I wonder if there ever will be pro-China protests with signs that say "based Duterte friend to Xi" or other kooky unlikely stanning
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Oct 5, 2020 20:39
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Maximo Roboto posted:The particularly egregious "save us Trump/the Queen/Modi" signs look like kneejerk "enemy of my enemy is my friend" signaling. Also see all the dumb "Azerbaijan/Turkey/Pakistan friends forever" posts on social media during the ongoing war. The internet has raised the public consciousness of internationalism, though it's still dumb and easily falls into dividing other countries into good guys and bad guys. I wonder if there ever will be pro-China protests with signs that say "based Duterte friend to Xi" or other kooky unlikely stanning I mean, you absolutely do get that on Tankie twitter where people support Lukashenko as the last bastion of the USSR.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:20
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I am working on the hypothesis that there are barely any people in the US think tanks who can speak and read Chinese documents natively. I read three books about BRI this year, none of them was written by someone who can speak Chinese.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:27
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stephenthinkpad posted:I am working on the hypothesis that there are barely any people in the US think tanks who can speak and read Chinese documents natively. I read three books about BRI this year, none of them was written by someone who can speak Chinese. But where would they find anyone who speaks Chinese, an extremely rare and almost forgotten language? There's no need to know Chinese to have a lot of thoughtful insights into China, you just need to not be a dumb white supremacist, which most white people are. One of the most insightful and interesting commentators that I've followed on the Chinese economy is Michael Pettis. He doesn't know Chinese, and that's fine.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:54
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Throatwarbler posted:But where would they find anyone who speaks Chinese, an extremely rare and almost forgotten language? I bet he knows a decent amount if he's a professor at 北大 and lives in Beijing edit: He was founder and co-owner of punk-rock nightclub D22 in Beijing, which closed in January 2012.[1] woah Antonymous has issued a correction as of 23:03 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Oct 5, 2020 23:00
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Antonymous posted:I bet he knows a decent amount if he's a professor at 北大 and lives in Beijing He's pretty active in the comments section of his blog (before it became the Carnegie thing) and IIRC has mentioned a few times that he doesn't speak Chinese. Neither teaching at PKU nor living in Beijing requires any knowledge of Chinese.
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Oct 5, 2020 23:08
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Throatwarbler posted:But where would they find anyone who speaks Chinese, an extremely rare and almost forgotten language? They did managed to find one Chinese speaking specimen. https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3094442/whos-brain-behind-mike-pompeos-anti-china-stance quote:One of the most insightful and interesting commentators that I've followed on the Chinese economy is Michael Pettis. He doesn't know Chinese, and that's fine. I read his book the Great Rebalance. Actually trying to explain and predict China with mainstream financial analysis tools is the worst kind of approach to study China IMO, because Chinese economy always follow the politic and commanded by her politic, not the other way around. I have the same criticism for Yukon Huang. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 23:14 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Oct 5, 2020 23:12
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Sure, it's not required to learn the language of the place you lived for a decade or to teach at their most exclusive top university. I just give the benefit of the doubt that he's probably not at 0 proficiency either in that case, at least he's better connected to China w/r/t the topic he's writing on than many writers either way edit: and language isn't a sign of accuracy either, you can of course find fluent speakers and native speakers who will write just about any opinion you're looking to push. it's more that without it, I wonder how accurate you can be (like marking every elementary school a detention center because you can't read the location tag on Baidu). I also guess there's an abundance of talented asian writers and journalists but we hear disproportionately from westerners and not coincidentally disproportionately negative, condemning news Antonymous has issued a correction as of 23:26 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Oct 5, 2020 23:20
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stephenthinkpad posted:They did managed to find one Chinese speaking specimen. It's more true for other countries than you think, especially the US. Remember when most of the US car and mortgage industries were state owned? "The government has certain levers with which to regulate the economy" isn't really that interesting of a comment, and I don't think that's really a valid criticism, but all I can do is point you to his writings.
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Oct 5, 2020 23:22
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Antonymous posted:Sure, it's not required to learn the language of the place you lived for a decade or to teach at their most exclusive top university. I just give the benefit of the doubt that he's probably not at 0 proficiency either in that case, at least he's better connected to China w/r/t the topic he's writing on than many writers either way I was just making a comment on Pettis since I happen to know him. But my criticism was really to the US think tank/diplomatic establishment who have not nearly enough people who can read a language fluently for a country that is projected to surpass you in what, 5 years? My criticism is really not targeting the US academia which I can think of a few China scholars who are fluent in Chinese off the top of my head. By the way when 911 happened, the entire US government only had 1 person who could speak the Afghan language the Taliban spoke. The India government doesn't have any "China" "expert" who speak Chinese at all btw, but that's a different post.
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Oct 5, 2020 23:50
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no foreigner experts in the american government actually speak the language of the places theyre experts on the korea experts dont speak korean the iranian experts dont speak farsi and id be surprised if most of our latin american experts even speak spanish
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Oct 6, 2020 06:06
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