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How standard is DDC? I read somewhere that it is becoming less standard, and that there are issues with DisplayPort sometimes? I don't really understand how it all works, but I use multiple monitors with multiple devices and use simple macros to switch input - a single keyboard macro key sure beats blindly bumbling with the monitor buttons through ~5 button presses. Is compatibility with DDC something I need to be worried about as I'm shopping for another monitor in the near future?
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FCKGW posted:If you were to get a 27” monitor, would you rather it be 1440p or 144hz if you couldn’t do both? Some games but not a lot of FPS, things like Rocket League or skateboarding games mostly. Probably depends on your game preference and exacting use cases, but for any sort of action oriented title, higher refresh rates look smoother in motion and tend to feel more responsive than lower refresh rate monitors. If your primary use case is instead strategy games or office use, more screen real estate and higher resolutions would be best. Personally I went all in on a 240hz 1080p IPS since motion resolution is really important to me
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FCKGW posted:If you were to get a 27” monitor, would you rather it be 1440p or 144hz if you couldn’t do both? Some games but not a lot of FPS, things like Rocket League or skateboarding games mostly. I don't have personal experience with this, but I think I'd opt for lower screen refresh rates before dropping resolution at 27". I would guess 120hz would be fine, 75hz okay, and 60hz tolerable with freesync. I spent like 10 years on a 24" 1080p screen at 60hz, and I can say I vastly prefer my 27" 1440p 144hz monitor. Barring edge cases (like the monitor having to be at a significant distance or something) I think 24" at 1080p is the right scaling, 27" at 1440p, and so on. A 27" at 1080p would seriously look bad to me at a normal viewing distance.
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Any PPI under 100 is going to be horrific 27" 1080p is 81 
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FCKGW posted:If you were to get a 27” monitor, would you rather it be 1440p or 144hz if you couldn’t do both? Some games but not a lot of FPS, things like Rocket League or skateboarding games mostly. 27" FHD is fine for a lot of people, and a higher refresh rate is going to make your experience much better than a higher resolution, but I personally prefer QHD at 27" for a higher pixel density. So if you couldn't have both, 144hz.
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I don't play it, but Rocket League seems to be a game where a lot of people think FPS > resolution. That said, IMO 1080p is such a low resolution these days as to be essentially unusable on the desktop. So it's a matter of priorities.
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I’m currently on an ASUS VG279 (27” 144hz 1080p) and I’m going to be upgrading for my 3080 when it exists someday. I know this probably gets posted a ton but is there a go-to IPS 1440p 144hz 32”? I’m not interested in curved screens. Bonus points go to anything with USB ports and as little bright flashy gamer plastic as possible.
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Oct 4, 2020 18:38
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Knot My President! posted:For someone that is in no rush to upgrade a monitor, are there any gaming monitors on the horizon worth looking out for or is tech pretty good these days? Sad that compared to my 5 year old Predator the only change at it's price point ($600) is better colours, brightness going up about 100 cd/m and 4k and/or weak HDR. You have to spend over $1000 to get anything impressive and those also tend to be ultrawide.
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Oct 4, 2020 20:55
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I used an 4K 27" display today with 150% scaling. Oh the crisp fonts. Now I want one (actually two), too. Dear God in heaven, LG, make a HDMI 2.1 variant of your LG 950 whatsit.
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Oct 4, 2020 21:18
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Rolo posted:I’m currently on an ASUS VG279 (27” 144hz 1080p) and I’m going to be upgrading for my 3080 when it exists someday. 32" 1440p pretty much always means VA and thus curved. 27" is the standard for 1440p and is going to wind up being the standard for 4k, even if 32" arguably makes more sense. The 27" 1440p 144hz IPS go-to is the LG 27GL83A. In some places you can get a 27GL850 or 27GN850 for not insane prices, which are basically the same monitor with a USB hub. Carecat posted:Sad that compared to my 5 year old Predator the only change at it's price point ($600) is better colours, brightness going up about 100 cd/m and 4k and/or weak HDR. You have to spend over $1000 to get anything impressive and those also tend to be ultrawide. The newer monitors have massively improved response times over those earlier monitors and can actually change pixels fast enough to properly support 144hz. It's not enough to warrant the cost of an upgrade unless you're extremely competitive, but it is there. K8.0 fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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K8.0 posted:32" 1440p pretty much always means VA and thus curved. 27" is the standard for 1440p and is going to wind up being the standard for 4k, even if 32" arguably makes more sense. The 27" 1440p 144hz IPS go-to is the LG 27GL83A. In some places you can get a 27GL850 or 27GN850 for not insane prices, which are basically the same monitor with a USB hub. Oh good to know. 27” actually fits my desk setup well, I just had that “while I’m upgrading this I may as well” attitude. I don’t mind staying at 27 if I can have a nice flat panel with solid res and refresh.
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What’s the current equivalent of the Asus VG236H? The OP seems out of date a little.
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Oct 5, 2020 05:20
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Alright I got this: Pixio PX248 Prime 24 inch 144Hz IPS 1ms FHD 1080p AMD Radeon FreeSync Esports IPS Gaming Monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GYFQD6L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_orREFbN3VFDA3 Have I made a terrible mistake?
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I just got two of them and after using them for about a week now, they are fantastic. You won't be disappointed. Also changing the settings on the monitor involves a little clicky thumbstick on the back that is wildly, strangely satisfying to use.
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Namnesor posted:I just got two of them and after using them for about a week now, they are fantastic. You won't be disappointed. Rad they seem perfect, not too expensive, and won’t bottleneck my planned PC build.
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Oct 5, 2020 08:01
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Oh yeah, a couple of adjustments on the monitor settings to consider: - Bump the Sharpness up to 75, that'll get rid of the halo effect around text and stuff - Bump the Gamma down to 2.0 and the Saturation down to 50, the out-of-the-box settings make the colors overly rich Everything else I think is down to personal preference.
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I'm looking for an ultrawide and/or ultrawide curved monitor for my work station and I'm running into problems with how awful my Macbook is rendering fonts. MacbookPro, running Catalina 13", 2019, 2.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 16GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 Graphics, Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655 1536MB My prior monitors were two 27" 4K, running two DisplayPorts through a Targus DisplayLink 4K. Absolutely beautiful font rendering, everything was crisp and nearly retina. I've been interested in curved monitors and ordered a 34" LG - LG 34WN80C-B 34 inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide WQHD IPS Monitor. I recognize it's not 4K, but the font rendering from my Macbook is absolute rear end. I went through several troubleshooting steps online - running the font smoothing integers through terminal, etc. Tried both DisplayPort and USB-C. Still rear end. Lots of other Mac users complaining about this issue. I'm fine paying more for an ultrawide screen/curved around 32", but how can I guarantee before I purchase it that it will display as nicely as my old 27" 4K? Just needs to say 4K in the description? Thanks for any help 
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3840x2160 27" is more than twice the pixel density of 2560x1440 27" / 3440x1440 34". That may be all you're looking at. LG makes a 4k ultrawide (5120x2160) 34" monitor, but it costs $1500. Ultrawide is just a really terrible value proposition.
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Yeah, I am realizing I can just do a large, non-ultra-wide with a higher res.
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So what's the deal with going CRT these days? How hard is it to find a decent sized CRT? How do you get HDMI output into one?
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TimWinter posted:So what's the deal with going CRT these days? How hard is it to find a decent sized CRT? How do you get HDMI output into one? There's converters that can take an HDMI or displayport signal and convert it to VGA, though this may not always utilize the full potential of any given monitor (converters can be hit or miss, even if your graphics card and the CRT support something like 1280x1024 @ 120hz, your converter may not) Some people use older graphics cards that still support analog over DVI, others use tricks to route hardware acceleration from a modern GPU to an output of an older GPU or even the integrated graphics from their processor, since even some recent motherboards have VGA out as an option to support projectors You can probably get a 15-19" CRT by trolling through your local facebook marketplace or craigslist if you don't care too much for what condition it's in, be advised that worn CRTs tend to have very poor contrast and color clarity, blacks can appear grey and whites end up not being very bright. The fewer hours the tube has, the better it's going to look generally, but over time things can fall out of alignment and you may have to make adjustments to internal components in order to fix the image. Getting a good looking CRT is probably down to enthusiast levels of learning how to maintain one yourself and using equipment former CRT technicians used to use in order to diagnose, repair, and maintain them.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I used an 4K 27" display today with 150% scaling. Oh the crisp fonts. Now I want one (actually two), too. Dear God in heaven, LG, make a HDMI 2.1 variant of your LG 950 whatsit.
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Does it still make sense to buy a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor in 2020 for PC mainly used for programming? The used prices on them are super attractive. Or if pricing wasn't an issue, do the 32" 3840x2160 just make much more sense?
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Khorne posted:*runs an app that doesn't support scaling* Frick!! It sucks. The most egregious one I've ever seen was the login splash for phantasy star online 2. You literally can't see the entry boxes because the window has swallowed them up thanks to the lovely scaling. I uninstalled the game with 0 seconds played. Sega you lazy fucks.
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Chuu posted:Does it still make sense to buy a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor in 2020 for PC mainly used for programming? The used prices on them are super attractive. Or if pricing wasn't an issue, do the 32" 3840x2160 just make much more sense? Depends on a variety of factors. If you have a narrow desk (you sit close and have good eyesight) I'd say it's worthwhile considering a cheap 4k 32" monitor if it fits in your budget since it will fit more text/windows/etc at 100% scaling. You also get a warranty when buying new if that means anything.
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Are we expecting anything next year to really replace the nano-ips 1440p hfr displays or has that resolution/tech pretty much peaked? Thinking of grabbing something if there is a black friday deal but I'd hate something with like, way better contrast or HDR to come along in a few months.
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Pegnose Pete posted:Are we expecting anything next year to really replace the nano-ips 1440p hfr displays or has that resolution/tech pretty much peaked? Well, nobody seems to be in any rush to bring OLED to the desktop, so no, it doesn't look like anything major is changing in the near future. Even if it does change, early adopting desktop OLED is probably gonna cost you like $1k for a 27" monitor so spending like $350 on an IPS now doesn't seem like taking much of a risk to me.
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TheFluff posted:Well, nobody seems to be in any rush to bring OLED to the desktop, so no, it doesn't look like anything major is changing in the near future. Even if it does change, early adopting desktop OLED is probably gonna cost you like $1k for a 27" monitor so spending like $350 on an IPS now doesn't seem like taking much of a risk to me. I doubt OLED in it's current form will ever be in a PC monitor that's marketed as a solely PC monitor. AFAIK the only one now is the Alienware AW5520QF (LG 55" panel) and they seem to be so unsure of it's longevity, they disable HDR by default (apparently you can still enable it from the OSD). It's probably fine as long as a couple of enthusiasts buy OLEDs as daily drivers but no one is willing to take on a thousands of morons cranking their screens to full bright and wondering why their game HUDs, system clocks and Chrome tabs start remaining on their screens after a year of usage.
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I have a new LG Oled TV and wouldn't want an Oled monitor. While my TV doesn't have burn in, there is temporary image retention after a static, bright graphic/logo has been on screen for a while. I don't notice it from a distance, but it's apparent closer up. The TV does a good job of flushing it away eventually.
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I really want to get one of the LG 38" monitors, but at $2499 it feels a bit awkward when a 55" CX is $2999. 55" is too big though, and we are still waiting on the 48" in Australia. For similar money there is the Samsung G9, which seems to finally hit good transitions with VA blacks, but the flickering/VRR issues are too rich for my blood Does anyone know if there are new 38" panels in the pipeline? Feels an awkward time to be buying a top end monitor Do the CX OLED support LFC or do they truly stop at 40Hz? BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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BurritoJustice posted:Does anyone know if there are new 38" panels in the pipeline? Feels an awkward time to be buying a top end monitor Acer released the Predator X38 during the summer which is also insanely expensive and Alienware has announced the AW3821DW which is probably going to be expensive as well. Sucks to want a 38", I tell you what.
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BurritoJustice posted:Do the CX OLED support LFC or do they truly stop at 40Hz? The latest firmware added LFC
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K8.0 posted:32" 1440p pretty much always means VA and thus curved. 27" is the standard for 1440p and is going to wind up being the standard for 4k, even if 32" arguably makes more sense. The 27" 1440p 144hz IPS go-to is the LG 27GL83A. In some places you can get a 27GL850 or 27GN850 for not insane prices, which are basically the same monitor with a USB hub. Ended up ordering a 27GL83A. It’ll be here tomorrow and I got it for only 375. My 27” 144hz1080p with no HDR from Best Buy was more expensive and I just got it like 6 months ago.
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Jeff Fatwood posted:Acer released the Predator X38 during the summer which is also insanely expensive and Alienware has announced the AW3821DW which is probably going to be expensive as well. Sucks to want a 38", I tell you what. If I was getting one now I'd probably get the X38 because it's the same price and I'd use the better USB hub. Doesn't seem like there will be many upgrades to the panel coming though The AW3821DW seems cool though, it has the HDR600 panel from the 38GN that the X38 lacks, but with a GSync module and TFT is predicting it has ULMB due to the formal "GSync Ultimate" spec Given I use a standing desk I'd likely need to get a hilariously beefy monitor arm if I went for an OLED
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https://www.engadget.com/dell-mini-led-monitor-140028013.html Does mini-LED offer the same benefits of OLED in terms of contrast while not having the same issues with burn-in?
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Am I good with just basically any IPS 27" 1440p/60Hz monitor? Buying a couple soon and I'm not sure if there are any that should be totally avoided. Looking at this one in particular... https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-27-1440p-wqhd-75hz-5ms-gtg-ips-led-monitor-cb272u-smiiprx-black/14763272 Oh and use-case is creative work so colour reproduction is very important. tuyop fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Just realized my new monitor doesn’t have built in speakers. Off to that thread I guess!
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space marine todd posted:https://www.engadget.com/dell-mini-led-monitor-140028013.html Mini-LED has mostly been used for monitors that have full array local dimming, which can provide greater contrast, at the expense of blooming when bright areas neighbor darker areas. It is not a self emissive display like OLED and will not look as good as OLED. The amount of visible bloom would depend on how many dimming zones they have. To keep things in perspective, a 4k display has 8,294,400 pixels. The monitor discussed in the article has 2,000 dimming zones. Another upside of OLED, although maybe specific to gamers, would be the insanely fast response times of OLED. A FALD supporting monitor would still have standard LCD panel response times.
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So the OP is whoefully out of date, any opinion on the Samsung C32HG70 (32" curved, 1440p, 144hz, 1ms, HDR600, QLED)? I currently have a Lenovo D27-20 (1080p, 75hz) which is my first monitor over 24". I've got two 24" as secondaries, looking to run the C32HG70 as a primary (gaming) with 2 D27-20 as secondaries (discord, chrome, media, etc). Opinions?
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The Big Bad Worf posted:Mini-LED has mostly been used for monitors that have full array local dimming, which can provide greater contrast, at the expense of blooming when bright areas neighbor darker areas. It is not a self emissive display like OLED and will not look as good as OLED. The amount of visible bloom would depend on how many dimming zones they have. To keep things in perspective, a 4k display has 8,294,400 pixels. The monitor discussed in the article has 2,000 dimming zones. Another upside of OLED, although maybe specific to gamers, would be the insanely fast response times of OLED. A FALD supporting monitor would still have standard LCD panel response times. drat, thanks for the information. I didn't realize Mini-LEDs are the same thing as FALD. The response time is a nice thing about OLED, but I just want those perfect colors+black levels.
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