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Why would a proud Albanian man say gently caress Albania?!?
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Oct 7, 2020 06:50
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He said it you son of a bitch
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I don't get this meme
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Rarity posted:I don't get this meme John Cena said "gently caress Armenia"
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Oct 7, 2020 07:45
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He didn't say that
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Lid posted:you son of a bitch She never says that.
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Oct 7, 2020 08:35
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https://twitter.com/NickTuths/status/1313705565948796928?s=20 lol re the Meltzer tweet that ended up in the AEW thread for some reason
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Oct 7, 2020 12:57
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Dave lives in California and specifically said his vote in the presidential election is worthless! It is the most correct statement imaginable!
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Yeah, that dude is just wrong. One of the big problems with our voting system is that so many people live in "safe states" so their presidential vote is often "worthless" because it has no impact on the federal election because you need to win the state and it's electoral college votes, not a popular vote. Like, I get wanting to still encourage people to vote but be honest with them about the problems in the system.
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Oct 7, 2020 13:07
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god i hope overwrought twitter threads stop being a thing after the election.
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It is literally mathematically proven that any individual vote is statistically insignificant in an election of any real size under a First Past The Post system. I don't remember the exact figures, but the probability of your vote being the deciding one approaches zero extremely loving fast once as number of voters increases.
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Oct 7, 2020 13:11
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Putting aside the wider political discussion (gently caress First Past the Post), I did think it was funny that Dave told a guy whose job is to cover elections that they don't know anything about how elections work. I mean, obviously he didn't know who the guy was, but it's kind of the equivalent of somebody who has no idea who Dave Meltzer is responding to a tweet he made to say,"You clearly don't know how wrestling works." Of course, plenty of people who DO know who Dave Meltzer is regularly try to tell him he doesn't know how wrestling works too, so maybe nobody would notice.
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Oct 7, 2020 13:12
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Jerusalem posted:Putting aside the wider political discussion, I did think it was funny that Dave told a guy whose job is to cover elections that they don't know anything about how elections work. I mean, obviously he didn't know who the guy was, but it's kind of the equivalent of somebody who has no idea who Dave Meltzer is responding to a tweet he made to say,"You clearly don't know how wrestling works." The people whose job is is to cover elections are generally extremely bad at their jobs, just FYI.
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Jerusalem posted:Putting aside the wider political discussion (gently caress First Past the Post), I did think it was funny that Dave told a guy whose job is to cover elections that they don't know anything about how elections work. I mean, obviously he didn't know who the guy was, but it's kind of the equivalent of somebody who has no idea who Dave Meltzer is responding to a tweet he made to say,"You clearly don't know how wrestling works." Dave loves wheeling out his credentials so having someone else wheeling out theirs is funny. I have no opinion on the state of democracy.
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Oct 7, 2020 13:18
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Cerebral Bore posted:It is literally mathematically proven that any individual vote is statistically insignificant in an election of any real size under a First Past The Post system. I don't remember the exact figures, but the probability of your vote being the deciding one approaches zero extremely loving fast once as number of voters increases. Considering that roughly 45% of all eligible voters don't enter ballots for one reason or another? Yeah. A single vote is literally meaningless.
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Oct 7, 2020 13:59
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Let me tell you about being in a country with mandatory voting and a preferential system where the leader is not directly elected by the popylation ... somehow the conservatives still get in charge and their opposition is a non entity in the pandemic to the point i forgot that they existed
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Cerebral Bore posted:The people whose job is is to cover elections are generally extremely bad at their jobs, just FYI. Looked the guy up and he's not actually a journalist, he's a producer/writer that used to work at MSNBC, so Dave has every right to dunk on him
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Oct 7, 2020 14:32
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Anyone who calls themselves an election expert might as well be saying they read the future using tea leaves. It's a fake job, just like Wall Street stock broker or digital guru. Nothing they do actually effects anything and they don't offer any real expertise. If they say voting matters then you can doubly just not listen to them.
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Jerusalem posted:Putting aside the wider political discussion (gently caress First Past the Post), I did think it was funny that Dave told a guy whose job is to cover elections that they don't know anything about how elections work. I mean, obviously he didn't know who the guy was, but it's kind of the equivalent of somebody who has no idea who Dave Meltzer is responding to a tweet he made to say,"You clearly don't know how wrestling works." It seems like this guy is a basketball reporters with no real following on twitter and no real understanding of presidential politics, so he's right to do so! Edit: Oh my god he was a producer on the MADDOW SHOW. I am dying. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Oct 7, 2020 |
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OctoberCountry posted:Looked the guy up and he's not actually a journalist, he's a producer/writer that used to work at MSNBC, so Dave has every right to dunk on him Figures that it'd be some Ryan Satin equivalent who'd pick a fight with Meltzer lol.
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Oct 7, 2020 15:12
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Big Dave is right
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Oct 7, 2020 15:29
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Maybe I’m just crazy but downballot votes are super important even if your presidential vote is useless in certain states.
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tao of lmao posted:Maybe I’m just crazy but downballot votes are super important even if your presidential vote is useless in certain states. This is the correct take
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Glad we all agree Dave is right
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Oct 7, 2020 15:34
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tao of lmao posted:Maybe I’m just crazy but downballot votes are super important even if your presidential vote is useless in certain states. This is congruous with Dave's original post (where he said he would be voting!) https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1313595629801627649 Like, it's not even a "individual votes are basically meaningless in big elections" argument, which is objectively true but something I could understand people quibbling with. It's "I live in California and my vote in the presidential election doesn't matter because Biden is guaranteed to win and the popular vote does not decide presidential elections." There's nothing to argue with!
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tao of lmao posted:Maybe I’m just crazy but downballot votes are super important even if your presidential vote is useless in certain states. This is 100% the case. People claiming their vote doesn't matter because it won't pick the president are more harmful than the people claiming they won't vote because their guy wasn't the nominee, imo.
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Senerio posted:This is 100% the case. People claiming their vote doesn't matter because it won't pick the president are more harmful than the people claiming they won't vote because their guy wasn't the nominee, imo. In a first past the post system your vote does not matter because it is very unlikely to effect the outcome of any race. That anyone at all votes is a paradox studied by political scientists. There is nothing harmful about saying this, it has been said millions of times and studied in depth. Meanwhile in wrestlers on social media, Kenta Kobashi tested COVID free and urges everyone to wear masks, wash their hands and take precautions. https://twitter.com/FortuneKK0327/status/1313778715889860609 (The horrible translation that often causes confusion with Japanese wrestlers make it sound like he is telling people to avoid masks.)
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Oct 7, 2020 16:41
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tao of lmao posted:Maybe I’m just crazy but downballot votes are super important even if your presidential vote is useless in certain states. Yes. That's also 100% in agreement with what Dave said as he said he was voting even though he knows his presidential vote is useless in California.
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MassRafTer posted:In a first past the post system your vote does not matter because it is very unlikely to effect the outcome of any race. That anyone at all votes is a paradox studied by political scientists. There is nothing harmful about saying this, it has been said millions of times and studied in depth. Ah, good, means Kobashi will still be on for commentating the N-1 Victory final
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Lid posted:What wellness violation For a second I only saw the razors and thought the implication was that he shaved his stomach hair so it'd look like abs shadows.
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MorningMoon posted:For a second I only saw the razors and thought the implication was that he shaved his stomach hair so it'd look like abs shadows. Somebody has done this. I can't remember who, but I'm sure someone else here can drudge it up.
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Oct 7, 2020 17:20
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The analogy that dude posted that Dave replied to doesn't even make any loving sense.
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Oct 7, 2020 17:52
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Voting is a load of shite meant to placate the masses into thinking that they have any say in their drab little lives while the forces of capital continue to rape the planet unabated. I feel like pure poo poo I just want Corbyn back. 
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I'm even with that guy in spirit. Even if you live somewhere that your presidential vote is useless you should go vote for down ballot stuff. Local elections can actually be influenced by you and that stuff impacts your day to day life way more than a lot of people think. It's just that Dave is factually correct (his favorite sort of correct) about his presidential vote in California. And if that discourages people into not voting, that's not Dave's fault. That's the fact that the system working the way it was designed to work is also having an effect of discouraging voters.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Voting is a load of shite meant to placate the masses into thinking that they have any say in their drab little lives while the forces of capital continue to rape the planet unabated. Yeah this is pretty much the truth. If voting did anything the people in control would not allow us to do it.
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Dave being yelled at for believing that elections other than the presidential one matter is why Biden voters are voting for 2 years of control at most before ceding everything back to the Republicans.
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