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They are largely based on misleading media narratives and a victim mentality perpetuated by a specific strata of black America (mostly to justify their own ethnonationalist narrative). Oh, and the downwardly mobile fail-sons and fail-daughters of the professional-managerial class, who have never worked a day in their life and don't intend to. For them, the riots are a big party, consequences to others be damned.
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Oct 9, 2020 10:44
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rudatron posted:Black people are neither systematically immiserated nor systematically killed, that is just your own personal savior fantasy speaking. The problem is more complicated than you might care to admit, but if you need reassurance, there is nothing 'essential' or 'inherent' about it. last time I do this but can you tell me when they stopped being systematically immiserated in america? were they never systematically immiserated?
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Oct 9, 2020 10:44
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rudatron posted:They are largely based on misleading media narratives and a victim mentality perpetuated by a specific strata of black America (mostly to justify their own ethnonationalist narrative). Oh, and the downwardly mobile fail-sons and fail-daughters of the professional-managerial class, who have never worked a day in their life and don't intend to. For them, the riots are a big party, consequences to others be damned. BLM is a trickery committed on black people by secret new black panther hoteps? how many steps removed is this from Jews controlling black America?
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Oct 9, 2020 10:46
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THS posted:completely perpendicular to the rest of your dogwhistle racism. it’s hosed that you’re allowed to spew open sewage like this at all, you’re concealing any light into your genuine worldview because as previous posters pointed out, you aren’t hard to figure out. gross alt-right bullshit
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Oct 9, 2020 10:47
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drjuggalo posted:BLM is a trickery committed on black people by secret new black panther hoteps? how many steps removed is this from Jews controlling black America? depending on how you interpret "largely based on misleading media narratives" zero steps
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Oct 9, 2020 10:47
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What America has is a history of white supremacy that was never rightfully crushed, whether that was at the end of the Civil War or at the end of segregation. Both times, the racist shitheads responsible for the heirarchies and the exploitation didn't answer for a single one of their crimes. Even South loving Africa had Truth and Reconciliation committees after apartheid, but the architects of America's racist hierarchy just sort of faded into the crowd after it became inconvenient for them to be open about their goals, and so they've festered for the last fifty years or so. To wit though, I'd actually say America's white supremacy problem doesn't always express it self in outright 'a white person thinks they're better than everyone else'. Sometimes it's just more, ambivalent about their 'whiteness' and just being extremely anti-black, anti-hispanic, anti-chinese, anti-anyone-they-don't-see-as-white in general. The effect is largely identical either way.
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Oct 9, 2020 10:51
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rudatron posted:Once you stop hyper-ventilating, you might be able to explain exactly what is offensive about that quote of you have of me, because it's legitimately what actually happened. i’m not explaining poo poo to you, you know exactly what you’re doing. do you think you’re the first right wing dickhead to do this song and dance? we’re well aware you aren’t here to engage in debate
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Oct 9, 2020 10:52
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What 'song and dance'? You quoted me, and proceeded to get offended. More than simply not caring that you are offended (my default reaction), I genuinely don't understand what offense you could have conceivably taken.
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Oct 9, 2020 10:55
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rudatron posted:What 'song and dance'? You quoted me, and proceeded to get offended. More than simply not caring that you are offended (my default reaction), I genuinely don't understand what offense you could have conceivably taken. i notice that you haven't responded to my question at the top of the page
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Oct 9, 2020 10:56
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Digging how thread regulars are accused of whataboutism once every couple of pages but this stupid derail has gone on so long it exceeds all of our non asia references going back for at least a year at this point
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Oct 9, 2020 11:06
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America could and should have killed the entire Confederate leadership and shot every slaveowner on sight, and if we'd done that the USA as superpower now would probably still have a few extra decades of life left in it. but we didn't do that and lol now the slow poison we didn't excise has reached the heart. We've literally never made the upper class accoutable, except when they screw over other rich people. Everything else aside, China's going to end up ruling the world for the simple reason that the PRC wasn't founded on a blatant loving lie
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Oct 9, 2020 11:16
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Actual communists like Mao, Sankara, Castro, Mandela etc. unambiguously addressed anti-black racism and the need to fight it specifically. Rudatron is just a right wing troll but there are plenty of racist pro-labor guys earnestly screaming that race issues are just a distraction. They make up their own theories based on intuition and just end up re-inventing Strasserism. Then they wonder why they get kicked out of every leftist group they join. Those people do not understand Marxism and have not read any writings on race issues, colonialism, or imperialism from Marxist theorists. The Comintern addressed the problem of American racism as early as the loving 1920's. China and black American radicals had a long history of solidarity. WEB Dubois made a trip to China and met with Mao himself. Paul Robseon, Vicki Garvin, and many others were also big China supporters. The CCP actually invited the Black Panthers to China as an honorary delegation where they met with Zhou Enlai. The Panthers had a great deal of Maoist influence and eventually required their members to read the Little Red Book. The Panthers are often referred to as a militant civil rights group in popular history but they were also the most important Marxist revolutionary group in America during their time. In fact, no American Marxist-Leninist organization has come close to matching their strength and impact since they were destroyed. For a thorough discussion on race and capitalism that stretches from the colonial era to modern day read Settlers. http://readsettlers.org/index.html
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Oct 9, 2020 12:56
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Actual communists like Mao, Sankara, Castro, Mandela etc. unambiguously addressed anti-black racism and the need to fight it specifically.
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Oct 9, 2020 13:08
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Continuity RCP posted:and also this Don't bother with the post, just read the comments and enjoy the author being righteously dunked on. quote:The child who made your shoes wouldn’t need more than 20 minutes to have a complete understanding of the concept of a labor aristocracy, and yet like every other blood-gargling Trot imbecile you managed to read multiple books on the topic and remain totally dumbfounded through shear force of will.
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Oct 9, 2020 13:12
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Never mind
ContinuityNewTimes has issued a correction as of 13:27 on Oct 9, 2020 |
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Oct 9, 2020 13:18
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https://twitter.com/NatalieRevolts/status/1314542640776478722 https://twitter.com/NatalieRevolts/status/1314542651799199744
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Oct 9, 2020 14:58
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i was also watching a video of some firing practice and saw this gun, which... uhh... is very shiny and chrome
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Oct 9, 2020 14:59
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Army of two rear end bren
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Oct 9, 2020 17:09
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rudatron posted:They are largely based on misleading media narratives and a victim mentality perpetuated by a specific strata of black America (mostly to justify their own ethnonationalist narrative). Oh, and the downwardly mobile fail-sons and fail-daughters of the professional-managerial class, who have never worked a day in their life and don't intend to. For them, the riots are a big party, consequences to others be damned. you see? absolutely stunning. and what i really love about this is that this isn't a bog-standard american patriot taking offense at the idea that maybe their precious police aren't actually there to keep us safe, but someone who calls themselves a marxist taking umbrage at the idea that the various oriental despotisms he's seen described so often on the news might be no worse than their own country. it's race science all the way down, folks. not for nothing did michael dawson write that in the USA even the mainstream socialist currents were first and foremost white nationalist movements
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Oct 9, 2020 18:06
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i've sent in a message to launch rudatron's rear end into the sun FYI anyways, pyongyang general hospital sounds like it'd be a fun t.v. show https://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/1314201608440303618 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjCnHJ8wIuM
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Oct 10, 2020 05:09
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i've sent in a message to launch rudatron's rear end into the sun FYI Chinese space program going well! FEELING GREAT!
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Oct 10, 2020 05:16
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here's a link to to KCTV north korea's 75th workers party celebrations should be happening here maybe https://bnonews.com/index.php/live-feeds/kctv/ they're currently celebrating space launches... speaking of that....
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Oct 10, 2020 05:25
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gradenko_2000 posted:Chinese space program going well! FEELING GREAT!
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Oct 10, 2020 05:28
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:anyways, pyongyang general hospital sounds like it'd be a fun t.v. show
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Oct 10, 2020 05:31
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:It just occurred to me that I've never seen a North Korean broadcast other than news or educational programs. Are there like North Korean sitcoms? I never thought about it. I know what I'm looking up this weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7dxKMtyPM
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Oct 10, 2020 05:33
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Oct 10, 2020 07:39
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They are not wrong are they? What other presidential candidate would be antagonistic to the CCP?
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Oct 10, 2020 08:06
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https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1314648770160795649 im posting this not for the informational value but for the outrageous couldnt happen here energy
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Oct 10, 2020 11:28
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John_A_Tallon posted:They are not wrong are they? What other presidential candidate would be antagonistic to the CCP? Biden presidency will probably have a more moderate approach to the China/USA rivalry, sure, but mostly in perception (Will Biden reverse the trade war, etc? I don't see a reversal of strategy, USA will remain antagonistic but not belligerent) but maybe perception has a big impact. Taiwan probably has closer ties to members of the GOP as well, dunno about hong kong. But I think realistically any hong kong anti-china or anti-CCP groups will get American assistance either way b/c that assistance comes from many different actors in the American government, not just the whims of the president. Maybe they hope trump has an itchy nuclear trigger finger or something equally heinous Clinton maybe was more pro China but I think that's personal not democrat party Antonymous has issued a correction as of 12:38 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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Oct 10, 2020 12:35
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The funniest thing is that Chinese people when polled really loving hated Hillary and mostly liked trump and I think still don't dislike trump as much as this poll for Hillary lmao http://survey.huanqiu.com/app/debate.php?vid=6479
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Oct 10, 2020 12:41
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looks like they had their parade overnight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5AmETxgW4c BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 15:54 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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Oct 10, 2020 15:52
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There isn't a massive propaganda machine in China telling the Chinese people that the democrats are actually all Chinese agents. Chinese people generally perceive the democrats as being at least no less anti-China than the republicans, but the republicans are at least a) more open about it and thus at least a little bit more respectable (this is probably why Trump is seen slightly more positively), and b) more openly corrupt and up front about the fact that they will debase themselves for any cause you want, and their price is like...a moderately equipped BMW 5 series? Chinese Americans are all going to be sent to the camps of course but no one in China particularly cares about them.
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Oct 10, 2020 16:12
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Throatwarbler posted:Chinese Americans are all going to be sent to the camps of course but no one in China particularly cares about them. I think the opposite, international injury to Chinese people can easily blow up, really depends on media and blog reactions. Did mainland care about the ethnic cleansing against Chinese in indonesia? I'm trying to think of a recent example. There was that asian doctor who got forcibly removed from an airplane that got a few people riled up, until it turned out he was of Vietnamese decent and Canadian or w/e and then suddenly no one stood up for him lmao but you're right there's definitely a disconnect with overseas communities and people who live abroad for an extended time (for school or whatever)
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Oct 10, 2020 22:28
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https://twitter.com/mcbelz/status/1314620253398274048 https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1315025975478976513 https://twitter.com/summersky100/status/1315011238535987201
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Oct 10, 2020 22:52
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after bannon was arrested, guo declared troll war against other anti-CCP neocons (calling them all communist spies) and is now headed out to sea. i hope he makes it to the caribbean and continues his campaign like some kind of bond villain
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Oct 10, 2020 22:54
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watching the north korea parade. one thing that is immediately obvious is how they were influenced by the PRC anniversary last year. also, they've stopped doing the violent goose stepping where the soldiers would kick their legs straight out and then slam them into the concrete, which i imagine has to cause a lot of knee problems. it does give off a "don't gently caress with us" message but i imagine the giant road-mobile ICBM they showed off (which i haven't gotten to yet) works better
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Oct 10, 2020 23:50
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it's interesting to listen to kim jong un's speech in korean while following along with the transcript. there are cuts to people in the audience crying. this is how the speech starts and it cut to the people crying about halfway in: quote:All the people and service personnel of the country, who are greeting the auspicious October holiday, 
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Oct 11, 2020 00:10
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Supposedly they also unveiled new tank that looks vaguely similar to a Russian Armata along with a new missile and some new IFVs. It is clear the defense budget maybe not be in as tough shape as expected.
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Oct 11, 2020 00:20
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https://twitter.com/japantimes/status/1314456821487333378?s=20
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Oct 11, 2020 00:25
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okay so... hah... they also now have a flag unfurling / national anthem part that is just like china. the flag guy even does a little twirl the same way also kim's speech was great. very emotive. a big chunk devoted to beating the pandemic and hoping everyone in the world gets better. and dealing with the flooding. kim teared up several times and says he tries really hard but has failed at times to meet the people's trust in him, and he is sorry, but the people's trust in him is what gives him strength, and that's why he cannot be bought.  
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Oct 11, 2020 00:49
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