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Pros: A town haunted by demons through mirrors, who reasonably respond by destroying the mirrors. Stained Salt Alloy, as a concept, for weapons and tools that can enter the demon-haunted mirror world. Hannah, a local adventurer, who has gotten a leg up on the whole mirror demon thing and seems to be the actual protagonist. Con: UnDungeon is a really terribly dumb name. EVERYTHING ELSE.
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Oct 10, 2020 04:10
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Wapole Languray posted:
Well yeah this is starting off strong.
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If the UnDungeon really wanted to make money off of this and get more exposure they'd target the hentai weeaboo demographic.Tibalt posted:Pros: A town haunted by demons through mirrors, who reasonably respond by destroying the mirrors. Deadlands already did this in regards to Coffin Rock, although the troubled town gets rid of its mirrors after the PCs get rid of the local problems.
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Oct 10, 2020 07:38
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That would require paying for an actual artist.
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Oct 10, 2020 07:40
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gently caress these authors.
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Oct 10, 2020 08:15
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an extremely bad sign is that the protagonists are, uh, not the pcs apparently.
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Oct 10, 2020 09:47
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Wapole Languray posted:Anyway, the adventure doesn't work unless you "go to the bonfire", which the players apparently heard of somehow via gm into description? IDK why you wouldn't START with this bit, as your typical "You are traveling when you notice X in the distance" thing. Anyway, there's a big rear end bonfire in the woods surrounded by a crowd. Two guys are throwing mirrors into the fire, because somehow people forgot that... you can just break mirrors. They don't... really burn? Do you have to burn a mirror? What kind of mirrors are these anyway, glass? Wouldn't you just smash it? Sunless Sea posted:If they are breaking mirrors, you point out, how then can they be in league with mirror-lords? Otherkinsey Scale fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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Oct 10, 2020 09:51
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I have to say, the image of a bandit gang running around with, essentially , a court sketch artist that documents their crimes is so hilariously absurd that I'm genuinely disappointed that they ruined the idea by making it creepy instead of just stupid.
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I'm sorry, did you say the campaign book is six hundred pages? What the gently caress. This is like Unabomber levels of crazy. A fine addition to the thread. Ithle01 fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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Oct 10, 2020 14:35
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400 ish of adventure and 200 of a monster manual because every entry has a full page illustration.
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Oct 10, 2020 15:46
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I take it that once you are done with this you will ritually burn the document.
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Oct 10, 2020 16:23
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Wapole Languray posted:400 ish of adventure and 200 of a monster manual because every entry has a full page illustration. What kind of illustrations are we talking about? Like, Legends of the Flame Princess stuff? Because I am definitely expecting LotFP type illustrations.
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Hunt11 posted:I take it that once you are done with this you will ritually burn the document. What, for no gold?
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Oct 10, 2020 19:05
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Wapole Languray posted:
Wapole Languray posted:This is the first part of the actual adventure that isn't GM Only Secret Text That Spoils poo poo. What... what are you supposed to do with this? I guess just tell the players that they apparently ignored a lynch mob and didn't think to ask about the missing mirrors that probably shouldn't even exist in dark-ages Europe but whatever! Seriously how do you start the campaign slash adventure like this? Mirrors have actually been a thing for a while now. The players I used to game with would be far less interested in the "Ungeon" than in the magic porn mirrors. They would have immediately tried to determine the range of the porn. Also, once the whole onyx alloy thing became clear, they'd have tried to manufacture mirrors using onyx alloy in an attempt to record the porn so they could sell Porn Mirror "DVDs" in the more porn-deprived areas of the world. Also, is it just specific types of mirrors that show porn or is it any relfective surface?
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Oct 10, 2020 20:14
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james raggi hates women because his surname is what scooby doo calls his best friend
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 Part 2: Thing Happen for Reasons Time to go into the first dungeon of the module. Hooray. First we get a Fun New Mechanic: Stress. Stress triggers whenever The Church Bell is Heard (It sounds when you kill an "inverted townsperson"), or whenever any PC reveals they are disturbed. This means that the GM has module defined punishment for players who get freaked out by what they see. Players are punished for negative reactions to the content of the dungeon and should "restrain themselves". Stress is poo poo by the way:  Why does it penalize blunt weapons specifically? Who knows. Stress goes down when you heal, when you get rest, when you get a crit in an attack (note, crits are not a thing in a lot of OSR systems so... whoops.) or... oh gently caress you.  Anyway, we now get to the UnDungeon proper. Here's the overall map:  Rooms are keyed, so we'll be going through in rough order. Each one has a zoomed in more detailed map I probably won't bother with posting. Room 1 So the entrance is down a staircase, and you reach a hallway T junction where both directions are closed by mirrorDoors (sic). We learn how mirrorDoors work here, they're loving awful. So, they are completely indestructable. No smashing them. If you stand between two mirrorDoors facing each other (like in this hallway) for more than 5 minutes shadow demons fly out and drag you into the mirrorDoor. If you get dragged in you loving die. See your BODY can go through the mirrorDoor glass, but nothing else you're wearing will. These items will get torn through your flesh cutting you to pieces as your clothes rip through your torso. You can enter the mirrors buck naked, but this is a death sentence. When you go in you enter the Invert, which is a series of randomized dungeon rooms that are basically all instakill encounters if you aren't loaded for bear. Hannah does show you how to open them like regular doors instead of twisted murder porn mirror portals! She tells the PC's to close their eyes and goes to the western mirrorDoor. If you peek (you sick pervert) you see Hannah taking her top off and performing a strip tease for the mirrorDoor, after she fondles her tits for it for a few seconds the mirrorDoor vanishes leaving the western passage open. Hannah won't mention how she opened the door if you don't look, just telling you it was something " indecent" she learned from her brother. Through the door is the Reception Room, and Inverted Micheal who's a Bookseller who went missing. He's "inverted" which means Something. He's lounging on a chair with his foot partway in a mirror leaned against the wall. You can try to sneak up to hear him muttering "Yes, it's hidden. I hid it. In the confession booth and in the cup. Salty salty salty." Eventually he detects then and invites them into the reception room. He'll ask to see any books the PC's brought, but is disgusted by the bandit's sketchbooks. Once he notices you, the mirrorDoor comes back, locking you inside. Then... Well ok so after he talks to you he doesn't do anything but the mirror he's got his foot in starts vomiting infinite diseased frogs. Like it just starts shooting 1d4 per PC frog monsters out that *drain 50 XP per turn* if they bite you. Until you destroy the mirror or cover it in some way 1d6 frogs come out every 5 minutes. Once you disable the mirror Inverted Michael goes nuts and starts yelling about the Invert, which, if there are any remaining frogs, makes them attack him. The frogs jump on him and start trying to crawl down his throat to choke him. If you save him he just starts repeating "You Must Confess. Go West" infinitely and trying to attack you. Now, he's a missing person so your PC's presumably must wanna save him right? Too bad it's impossible. He cannot be subdued and will attack without ceasing until he is killed. When you kill him, which remember you cannot avoid, bell rings and you roll to see if you gain Stress. There's basically nothing inside here except some weak healing potions and a bottle of scotch. That's it. Anyway, you can now go back through the mirrorDoor, because Hannah now explains it (why was she coy before?) where you have to seduce the people inside the glass by doing something sexy . It has to be a new thing each door though, so Hannah can't do it again because they're bored by her.  Yeah. Anyway, going through the hallway you reach the Dressing Room. When you enter you see a young couple on a seat, where... yeah the guy is eating the girl out. When you enter they gasp and run out of the room, and the furniture magically moves to barricade the door and seal everyone inside the Dressing Room. A mirror on the wall then starts talking, a "voice" talking to Hannah. Hannah asks what happened to her brother, and the Mirror Voice says that "He entered on his own cognition. He will enter whenever he desires", whatever that means. Then:  Yeah. Anyway now you fight an incense golem which is a monster way too cool to be in this dungeon???  I mean it's a giant plate armor dude animated by magical incense smoke that's pouring from its helmet which is a giant censer. That's a loving cool monster for an evil church themed dungeon! So you fight it and get no loot but n ow you can y'know... move the pews blocking the door forward. So you go through and find the couple that ran away: They tried to get through a mirrorDoor but forgot to get naked so you just find their dismembered corpses. Just loving severed feet in shoes and bloody bracelets and shredding clothing and pools of blood. Hannah asks to go West, but you could go East, splitting to room 2 or 3. Next Time: Room 2
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Oct 10, 2020 21:03
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I don't understand. If you have a bunch of good ideas and a decent artist on hand why would you go and ruin that with dumb shock value bullshit 
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So far this module is impressively stupid. This goes beyond regular lovely writing to a real special place. The writers clearly had some ideas of what they wanted to do - and even some actually creative ideas - but man have they managed to really make every mistake it is possible to make at every step along the way. Honestly, many of the ideas are pretty good like a stress track, angry villagers, porn bandit, incense golem, or horny mirror dimension - not bad in theory - but holy poo poo this execution is so awful.
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Mirror Doors reminded me of this Oglaf strip for no reason  https://www.oglaf.com/brassknobs/
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Somehow, out of everything, it's the CamelCase nouns that are really twisting my brain. Why "mirrorDoor"? Was this dungeon written in Java?
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quote:GMs shoudl use their discretion; don't make your players so uncomfortable they don't want to continue. I. Um. That's awfully loving close to textbook grooming.
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Bieeanshee posted:I. Just like it was in AdEva, yeah. Same thing. 'Do what you can get away with but keep them going' is a huge red flag.
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Knowing that "invert" is a olde-timey word for "LGBT person" makes reading this module extra uncomfortable. Also, the rapist bandits remind of this thread's namesake, so that's extra nice. I presume this is the kind of adventure you would run in FATAL, if you were that terrible of a person.
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Oct 10, 2020 23:17
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If I was 14 years old, this would be some pretty amazing stuff. Of course, it would also be 1982, so the production quality wouldn't be nearly as good. Do people just... not grow out of this stage?
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Madurai posted:If I was 14 years old, this would be some pretty amazing stuff. Of course, it would also be 1982, so the production quality wouldn't be nearly as good. Have you seen Twitter or Facebook?
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Oct 11, 2020 00:21
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Midjack posted:Have you seen Twitter or Facebook? I just assume they're teenagers with fake personas.
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Madurai posted:If I was 14 years old, this would be some pretty amazing stuff. Of course, it would also be 1982, so the production quality wouldn't be nearly as good. Some people don't. There's a reason the guy who wrote FATAL wrote FATAL. I do love that the goal of IC is to create a people of one race, one sex and one language withotu divisions of class... and it's the bad guy. And your group is trying desperately to save a town full of bigots from this horrible fate.
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I'm still trying to wrap myself around the fact that the enemy you face in this dungeon is a bunch of horny mirrors. Much of this adventure could be avoided if you hooked the dungeon up with cable and got it a Cinemax subscription.
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Epicurius posted:I'm still trying to wrap myself around the fact that the enemy you face in this dungeon is a bunch of horny mirrors. Much of this adventure could be avoided if you hooked the dungeon up with cable and got it a Cinemax subscription. I'm curious as to what happens if the party uses illusion magic to simulate fake-sex or something in order to get around the "I need something NEW dammit!" progression of mirror-door opening.
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Libertad! posted:I'm curious as to what happens if the party uses illusion magic to simulate fake-sex or something in order to get around the "I need something NEW dammit!" progression of mirror-door opening. Show them some Waluigi hentai and the entire dungeon collapses in disgust. https://youtu.be/3r2xtg0l-S0
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I just can't get beyond the UnDungeon name. This is some dumb bullshit in line with Thongs of Virtue (i forget the full title of the game), but the rest is just regular horny stuff, with the only subversion - as the stated goal was - coming from the fact that Fantasy Blood And Soil village is condemned. And then the dialogue is simply atrocious. Agree on incense golem being way too cool for this.
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It's the occasional cool bits and hints of interesting ideas that stop me from just skipping over these posts. It's not worth sifting through poo poo to find pennies, but it's still amazing it's there.
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Oct 11, 2020 16:53
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I hate how loving cool the incense golem looks. Why is it inside this monstrosity?
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Would you say that you're incensed?
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LeSquide posted:It's the occasional cool bits and hints of interesting ideas that stop me from just skipping over these posts. It's not worth sifting through poo poo to find pennies, but it's still amazing it's there. Beneath looks like it might turn into a heart-breaker. There'll be some pretty cool idea and illustration in what will likely end up being a lovely, repetitive adventure. Mirror Door 2 creates tension as the PCs try to determine what kind of sex act they should do and with who they should do it, getting at issues of trust and intimacy. By MD 15, though... "Okay, who's supposed to gently caress who in which hole now? Lemme check the roster... and... Steve, Brian, you're up. Brian, suck Steve's cock. Steve, be sure to spooge all over Steve's face. Jeff, pull out a towel and wet it a little with water. Brian's gonna need it after this." Making it worse is that this game actively punishes characters who role-play and show emotion via Stress. Honestly, I think the smarter move would have been to give players who express emotions and react to the scenes a temporary penalty to reflect that the characters really are feeling this but that if they do this, they accumulate less Stress. Meanwhile the ones who act like jaded sybarites accumulate Stress and that Stress can be used to inflicted greater difficulties and even influence their action. Build up enough and you join the bad guys.
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Oct 11, 2020 18:58
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Please stop defending the doors that force you to do sex acts.
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By popular demand posted:Would you say that you're incensed? NO  Also Night I wanted to say thank you so much for the Warhammer blog, I am really enjoying reading it through!
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Oct 11, 2020 19:59
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Mors Rattus posted:Please stop defending the doors that force you to do sex acts. This.
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Josef bugman posted:Also Night I wanted to say thank you so much for the Warhammer blog, I am really enjoying reading it through! It is a pleasure to write it so I'm happy a few people enjoy it.
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