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Mao Zedong Thot posted:Who the gently caress is Bernie? Joe biden's biggest donor
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Oct 11, 2020 10:15
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Vim Fuego posted:Joe biden's biggest donor Bernie can best be described as a stool pigeon for the left.
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Oct 11, 2020 14:10
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Vim Fuego posted:I will never understand how this is easier or better than just supporting a single good policy. one would be enough to get so many people on board. But Biden/Harris and the DNC won't do it. they just have to lie, but can't even do that!
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Oct 11, 2020 14:23
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:they just have to lie, but can't even do that! bold presumption tbh, i'm assuming they're lying and going to govern to the right of their campaign promises to the same degree obama did, obama promised more but was only lying to the same degree lol
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Oct 11, 2020 14:52
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Vim Fuego posted:I will never understand how this is easier or better than just supporting a single good policy. one would be enough to get so many people on board. But Biden/Harris and the DNC won't do it. They will never understand how complaining like this is easier or better than just giving a single million dollar plus donation to the DNC. One would be enough to get so many junior representatives to maybe listen to them for fifteen minutes. But the Bernie Bros. and the left won't do it. Like come on. A super PAC. There's not some other black money vehicle where all the great grandchildren of the leftists get to bribe us. They'll be poor in the flyover wasteland with the rest of those losers. In conclusion, gently caress YOU
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Oct 11, 2020 16:14
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I will not vote for Joe Biden today.
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Oct 11, 2020 16:23
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Just voted for Howie today feels good as heck.
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Oct 11, 2020 16:26
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everytime I get bothered through a phone call or text i'm gonna come in here and say still haven't voted for joe in pa and still won't be doing so
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Oct 11, 2020 18:37
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Asema posted:everytime I get bothered through a phone call or text i'm gonna come in here and say still haven't voted for joe in pa and still won't be doing so then I hope you get the shiny tag you deserve, friend
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Oct 11, 2020 18:46
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the lives of latinos in venezuela matter too much to me so i will not be voting biden
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Oct 11, 2020 20:01
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i live in PA, with the impending hilarious bullshit that is going to be election day around here, can i get my nojoe tag goldified? as incentive, have some local election news https://www.mcall.com/news/police/mc-nws-charges-filed-allentown-elections-judge-bickford-20201005-agyesiv4avfhlb2atjhow3hkk4-story.html
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Oct 11, 2020 20:09
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Mr. Biden, welcome to the Revolution
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Oct 11, 2020 20:17
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Remember, friends! But not for Joe!
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Oct 11, 2020 21:00
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Dewgy posted:i live in PA, with the impending hilarious bullshit that is going to be election day around here, can i get my nojoe tag goldified? Pro click for the photo of the election judge.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:01
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cenotaph posted:Pro click for the photo of the election judge. You aren't joking
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Oct 11, 2020 21:19
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I guess the new argument is whether court-packing is ethical, ignoring the fact that Biden absolutely will not bother packing SCOTUS either way
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Oct 11, 2020 21:31
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DoubleDonut posted:I guess the new argument is whether court-packing is ethical, ignoring the fact that Biden absolutely will not bother packing SCOTUS either way Comedy option: He does pack the court but it's with anti-abortion judges opposed to both voting rights and civil rights and instead of decisions going 6-3 they'll be 10-3 for as long as any of us are alive or the country collapses, whichever comes first.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:36
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LastInLine posted:You aren't joking I didn't know clown college qualified you to take the bar exam. 
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Oct 11, 2020 21:47
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can’t wait to just scribble a big loving cock on my ballot
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Oct 11, 2020 22:21
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Sundae posted:My ballot went into the mailbox today, +1 for Howie in California where my vote really and truly doesn't matter whatsoever. same just dropped mine off. i kinda regret not ticking gloria la riva but oh well it doesn't matter whatsoever. i did vote for some cool communist guys on the local boards and poo poo. also gently caress prop 22
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Oct 11, 2020 22:24
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https://twitter.com/theblatt/status/1315399449443659776 there's a lot about libs I don't understand but their insistence on forming a cult around every single person they can might be the thing that makes the most irrationally angry
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Oct 11, 2020 22:41
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DoubleDonut posted:https://twitter.com/theblatt/status/1315399449443659776 This is also why they think Bernie supporters were a cult. It's always projection.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:43
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I've honestly just chalked it up to them being more likely to want to seem smart and informed and then just saying someone familiar so that the listener would think "Yeah! I've heard that name!" Conservatives, as anyone knows, gives absolutely no fucks about whether they're perceived as smart or informed and generally lack this impulse. Edit: vv Yeah, you said it better than I did. ClassActionFursuit has issued a correction as of 23:31 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 22:48
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Succ identity is a positive feedback loop of showing off how smart and correct and knowledgeable you are all the time, compared to all the dumb uneducated Others. All it takes is one person to say "x person is good for some reason", then one other lib goes  and tries to one up everyone they know with this new knowledge, who then need to go to everyone THEY know to show how smart and good they are, and it snowballs from there.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:24
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The lib obsession with Garland is particularly funny because the only reason Obama nominated him for SCOTUS was because at some point Mitch specifically called him out as somebody he would vote for on SCOTUS, and Obama being a textbook lib decided that he was totally going to own Mitch by nominating that guy! Now he has to hold a vote or he's a hypocrite, genius play! Except surprise surprise Mitch just laughed and kept on going, and was in fact not owned. Seriously Garland is nobody, there's nothing special about him. But because Obama tapped him to prove to the world how much of a liar old Turtle is suddenly he's become some kind of lib messiah figure and it's so dumb.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:33
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I think it's just a facet of the end of history. Things might morph a bit with world events but its a static stage now, and what's left to care about but the actors?
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Oct 11, 2020 23:34
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If you expect the world to be more or less (maybe with less plastic bags and coal) the same in 30 years as it is now -- as it was 30 years ago -- then all that's really left to adhere to is personalities.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:35
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That just doesn't track for me. It's not that cults of personality are strictly a succ phenomenon but the cults of personality around incredibly mediocre and uninspiring figures certainly seems to be. The peacocking has to be accounted for and while the end of history plus a lineup of bland non-personalities might be some of it, it's the fact that it's so obviously perfomative that makes it so grating and I don't think end of history accounts for that.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:55
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You have to take into account the years and years of very solemn, seemingly sober, 'very' 'serious' 'distinguished' older white people on the television and on radio telling them that this is the epitome of credibility. There's been decades of propaganda work to lead up to this, and a fuckton of trust built over those years so that there is unquestioning belief in that media and those parties when it tells them, in unison, 'this is how it is.'
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Oct 12, 2020 00:05
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LastInLine posted:That just doesn't track for me. It's not that cults of personality are strictly a succ phenomenon but the cults of personality around incredibly mediocre and uninspiring figures certainly seems to be. The peacocking has to be accounted for and while the end of history plus a lineup of bland non-personalities might be some of it, it's the fact that it's so obviously perfomative that makes it so grating and I don't think end of history accounts for that. Succ has nothing else but mediocre and uninspiring figures. The underlying worldview makes performative half measures and milquetoast rhetoric far more palatable. I don't think that worldview is the sole reason why they cling to whitebread, but I do think that if the range of acceptable -- and desired -- action is small because rocking the boat is anathema, then you end up with a political ideology that comes up with cuomosexuals and ruthkandas.
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Oct 12, 2020 00:07
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I'm still confused as to why Obama refused to make Garland a recess-appointment. Putting your fetish for a fair loss over a ruthless win is so loving emblematic here. E: Confused is the wrong word, I mean I explained exactly why he didn't in the next sentence
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Oct 12, 2020 00:51
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moths posted:I'm still confused as to why Obama refused to make Garland a recess-appointment. Putting your fetish for a fair loss over a ruthless win is so loving emblematic here. I believe the Senate was never "officially" in recess specifically to block recess appointments. The rules are made up and nothing matters.
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Oct 12, 2020 01:09
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alarumklok posted:Succ has nothing else but mediocre and uninspiring figures. The underlying worldview makes performative half measures and milquetoast rhetoric far more palatable. I don't think that worldview is the sole reason why they cling to whitebread, but I do think that if the range of acceptable -- and desired -- action is small because rocking the boat is anathema, then you end up with a political ideology that comes up with cuomosexuals and ruthkandas. I get what you're saying. It's a good theory and certainly defensible. I live in an area with a perpetually hopeless NFL team, the Bengals. They will never ever be any good. Still, the local media has to pretend they are, or were, or will be soon. Does this sound familiar? When I see the lib cults of personality ascribing legendary hero status to people completely at odds with who they are, it to me has exactly the same "local media talking about the Bengals" energy. Just pure chronic loser energy. I guess in short I feel like whatever theory one has would not only explain succlibs idolizing Merrick Garland but also explain anyone believing in the Bengals because I think it's the same phenomenon.
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Oct 12, 2020 02:00
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I'd trust a random homeless person more than any politician.
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Oct 12, 2020 02:49
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MonsieurChoc posted:I'd trust a random homeless person more than any politician. Who wouldn't?
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Oct 12, 2020 02:50
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Does anyone have a proper argument against "Biden is better on trans rights, Trump will crush them further." Because I keep getting into arguments and then this comes up when I'm getting vote shamed.
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Oct 12, 2020 04:43
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moths posted:I'm still confused as to why Obama refused to make Garland a recess-appointment. Putting your fetish for a fair loss over a ruthless win is so loving emblematic here. banking up that sweet sweet political capital so he could release the succ spirit bomb on bernie in 2020
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Oct 12, 2020 04:50
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Octal posted:Does anyone have a proper argument against "Biden is better on trans rights, Trump will crush them further." Because I keep getting into arguments and then this comes up when I'm getting vote shamed. My inclination is that both are exactly the same on trans rights and I'd probably ask what the person thinks Biden will do specifically to help and what, again specifically, Trump has done so far to oppose them. That being said I can't imagine anyone who genuinely believes that Biden will help them could be convinced otherwise since it wasn't logic that got them to that belief to begin with.
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Oct 12, 2020 04:53
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Octal posted:Does anyone have a proper argument against "Biden is better on trans rights, Trump will crush them further." Because I keep getting into arguments and then this comes up when I'm getting vote shamed. His VP pick is just as transphobic as at least one (if not both) of Trump/Pence and actively was harmful to them in her time imprisoning people, a thing that occurred within our lifetimes; even if Biden's actions of voting against gay marriage and LGBTQ+ legislation nearly every chance he got Before he was a VP and literally couldn't vote on the decisions can be overlooked as "a thing of the past" or something he's "evolved on", Kamala doesn't deserve that same benefit of the doubt. Her actions occurred more recently, and she didn't even acknowledge that she evolved on the position so much as she's now saying she's for our community without even hinting that she was actively against it before, in a way that legit threatened trans (trans inmates') lives
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Oct 12, 2020 04:56
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This probably isnt the right place to ask but I have no clue where else to: What the actual gently caress is up with all the weird avatar avatars through out succ and DnD?
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