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Wait, why were people arguing about Billy Butcher’s language before, do people in here get upset at “oval office” now?Rhyno posted:An equal amount of dipshits are obsessed with the hero fantasy. They honestly think they will save the day if poo poo goes down. This is pathetically hilarious, and at this point in my life/this timeline, I’d be hard pressed not to laugh in that guy’s face and make fun of him even more if I was in that situation.
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My guns are strictly for penis replacement purposes I have no fantasies that I'll ever use one in self defense.
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T-Square posted:Wait, why were people arguing about Billy Butcher’s language before, do people in here get upset at “oval office” now? Which lead to Tomarse’s “haha you guys are c***s but I’m not going to say it but I’m gonna make you think it lol” super funny gotcha Krakkles fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 02:45
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T-Square posted:Wait, why were people arguing about Billy Butcher’s language before, do people in here get upset at “oval office” now? He is endlessly mocked for it but he still shows up at least once a month.
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Oct 12, 2020 03:17
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Krakkles posted:That word is an offensive term for women, the mod tried to ban it, a bunch of people pitched a fit and made circular non-sensical arguments about how “actually that’s not how we mean it but yes it is what the word means but not what we meant”. Ah, so it's not banned? Cool
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Oct 12, 2020 03:18
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Krakkles posted:That word is an offensive term for women, the mod tried to ban it, a bunch of people pitched a fit and made circular non-sensical arguments about how “actually that’s not how we mean it but yes it is what the word means but not what we meant”. I understand that the c-bomb is considered the most offensive word in American English but you must try to understand that different cultures view it differently. Other anglophone countries may not have the same emotional response attached to the word. I’m not trying to advocate for it’s use here, personally I try to limit its use it my everyday language despite living in a country and working in an industry where it is seen as punctuation rather than a slur. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a discussion about it, but bear in mind that part of what makes AI so great is the diversity of its membership. Simply trying to ban something because you find it offensive is not a great way to engage with people and find a solution that’s acceptable to all parties.
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Oct 12, 2020 03:21
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The Royal Nonesuch posted:CA doesn't require a license to own guns unless you're referring to the Firearm Safety Certificate needed for purchasing, which is essentially 30 bullshit questions along the lines of Do it. You know you want to. X-bodies are good. Novas are your friends.
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Oct 12, 2020 03:40
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slothrop posted:I understand that the c-bomb is considered the most offensive word in American English but you must try to understand that different cultures view it differently. I appreciate the reasonable nature of your approach and I absolutely understand that a fair number of people just don’t understand the implications of such language, but the fact that “it’s still normal here” doesn’t mean it’s not harmful, and it certainly doesn’t add anything to the culture of this forum. No one tried to ban Australians or Brits in general, and I certainly don’t want Tomarse or anyone else to stop posting, but asking people not to use a word that they agree on the definition of but argue the severity of is not particularly unreasonable. There’s this weird stigma around “woke culture” being a negative thing, but I think being inclusive is valuable, and having that word littered about here isn’t going to help women (or people who value inclusivity toward women) want to belong here.
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Oct 12, 2020 04:13
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Krakkles posted:A lot of cultures have come around to the fact that referring to something in a negative way using a word associated with something else is offensive whether or not the (typically quite privileged) person doing so thinks so or “means it that way” or not. Thanks for the reasoned response. You raise some really good points that I hadn't considered and I will absolutely take them on board. I suspect there is probably a little bit of a subconcious "chip-on-the-shoulder" about deferring to a USA centric point of view amongst other anglophone/5eyes nations. I'm not saying it's right or reasoned, but I think we look at what we percieve as a very broken political/social system in the US and wonder "who are you to be handing out the moral imperative?" Please note I'm not trying to argue against you here, I do appreciate what you have to say.
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Oct 12, 2020 04:26
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slothrop posted:Thanks for the reasoned response. You raise some really good points that I hadn't considered and I will absolutely take them on board.  For what it’s worth, I think the US sucks, for a multitude of reasons, definitely including the ones you list. I’m trying to remain hopeful that we can change but it’s getting constantly harder. I’d move if we weren’t PNG in basically every other country at this point! 
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Oct 12, 2020 04:35
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Wait, was this an option?
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Oct 12, 2020 05:27
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The bat swooped out of the bathroom tonight, apparently that's where he went instead of outside like we thought. We have a cast iron tub so between that and the shower curtains there were plenty of little crannies to hide in, even though I looked for him there. My brother was coming out after using it and got swooped. He had the presence of mind to shut the door so there was nowhere for the bat to hide - the rest of the house is very open. We opened all 3 doors, one of which was very close to where he was swooping around, and suddenly he wasn't there. So while we still didn't see him exit, confidence is high he is definitely gone this time. Also my dad and brother were there to both witness it and verify that neither of them are  I'm super glad he didn't decide to wake up while I was showering an hour earlier. I would have been trapped in there with him all naked and would have probably broke a hip scrambling out of the tub. Old cast iron tubs are sketchy for showering to begin with, the bottoms are not flat at all. Mom loved it, but I'll probably get rid of it when I remodel that bathroom.
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Oct 12, 2020 05:38
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Krakkles posted:A lot of cultures have come around to the fact that referring to something in a negative way using a word associated with something else is offensive whether or not the (typically quite privileged) person doing so thinks so or “means it that way” or not. You're a good person. You've been one of my favorite people on here lately.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Do it. You know you want to. X-bodies are good. Novas are your friends. Don't neglect your friends.
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Having been married to an english gal for the last 20 years I get that the word is more commonly used in the UK and Australian vernacular, I'm not super offended by the word I just think it sounds absolutely ludicrous when americans use it I also find extremely repulsive when americans say "Spot on"
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Oct 12, 2020 06:13
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Ether Frenzy posted:Having been married to an english gal for the last 20 years I get that the word is more commonly used in the UK and Australian vernacular, I'm not super offended by the word I just think it sounds absolutely ludicrous when americans use it That's part of the reason for not using it on the forum too, if you hear it spoken aloud in media, and it's some bloke with a posh accent, you don't think twice, but accent dinnae come through the medium of text very well, leading to hurt feelings an long explanations.
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Oct 12, 2020 07:04
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I use profanity as punctuation... it’s just a bit of a thing that’s come out of the workgroups I’ve been in for the last nearly 20 years, but even for me you have to properly upset me to drop the C bomb. Usually it’s my manager and at the moment it’s basically on a daily basis. It’s funny the difference in use of language tho- here in Australia if you call someone a c*** your often referring to your mates, but if you call someone mate, you probably consider them to be a c***! Also, have fun with your insults- instead of telling your idiot coworker to go gently caress himself, tell him to go fist himself!
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Oct 12, 2020 09:16
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Ferremit posted:Also, have fun with your insults- instead of telling your idiot coworker to go gently caress himself, tell him to go fist himself! There's been a little much of this online where you get stuff like 'cockwomble' and the like. Don't go too far making new words.
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Oct 12, 2020 10:32
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Ferremit posted:It’s funny the difference in use of language tho- here in Australia if you call someone a c*** your often referring to your mates, but if you call someone mate, you probably consider them to be a c***! This whole debate I can’t help but think that TISM, as usual, sum things up nicely. C*** warning obviously. https://youtu.be/GQO1qZD5lek
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Military training did an amazing job of removing any glamour around guns for me. They give you an assault rifle on day 1 and it is incredibly cool at first, but they don't give you any ammo and you don't use it for anything so it just becomes a PITA bit of metal you have to take everywhere with you. Then with all the actual training, teaching and using it for realsies on operations it just kind of becomes a "thing" rather than anything of particular interest. I still enjoy shooting but fetishization of guns and "self defence" is super weird.
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I agree that a lot of the gun issues in the US stem from fetishization of guns and the military through culture and media and advertising. Compare to a lot of countries where service is compulsory, where most people have either been a conscript or know at least one person who is one or an actual soldier. So they've had the gun presented to them as a tool instead of a toy, as well as gone through all the maintenance and cleaning drills. That also means you see people in uniform on public transit regularly and nobody takes any note of it, they're just going to or from wherever they've been stationed. Of course there's been a lot of cultural osmosis through entertainment and media, so we do see a lot more "american-style" gun enthusiasts now than say 20 years ago.
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knox_harrington posted:I still enjoy shooting but fetishization of guns and "self defence" is super weird. Yeah. Shooting guns is a good time, but self defence is bullshit, and I’ll never understand why the act of shooting guns for a hobby means you need special tactical pants and vests and poo poo. You don’t need to dress up like a cowboy to ride a horse, nor does one dress like Kiss to play a guitar.
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Some kids never grow out of pretending I guess
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Ether Frenzy posted:I also find extremely repulsive when americans say "Spot on"  also "veg"
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I originally bought a gun for "protection" because I live in Florida, we get lots of hurricanes and in the aftermath of hurricanes there is almost always issues with looting. Hurricane Andrew years ago was particularly bad in that regard and it left an impression on me, lots of people just trying to survive through it were victimized. But once I got it I also realized it was pretty fun to shoot at targets, then I met my wife and she had guns and we went shooting together and it was fun 
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KozmoNaut posted:I agree that a lot of the gun issues in the US stem from fetishization of guns and the military through culture and media and advertising. Most of the really bad tacticool/militia dudes have never been in the military, and have this weird borderline fetishization of it, and will tell you how they would've gone out to be a Delta Force Green Beret Seal Sniper, but their bone spurs or whatever kept them from enlisting. It is not healthy.
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Wasting time while working from home watching Jay Leno's Garage. Decided it was time to get away from youtube and do some work when I saw that he posted a new video 9 minutes ago about the Dodge Viper. I feel like I've been slowly losing steam all year but now that it's Q4 I'm just loving checked out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slQVERzykeY Still very cool. I never get tired of Jay Leno complaining about cars beeping at you or service manuals telling you not to drink the battery acid lol.
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Had a shift from hell the other night (11 hours). I was so sore that I could barely drive when I left - my feet and knees in particular. It doesn't help that Brokeback has a pretty stiff throttle pedal (pretty sure it'll need a cable at some point - it's not sticking, but you have to give it a lot of oomph to get the pedal to move now). Ex lives 2 miles from work, and she's 3 miles from the clinic all of my doctors practice at, so.. glad we're still on good terms. Upstairs apartment which sucks, but I'll take that vs trying to drive the ~30 minutes each way to/from work, 45 minutes from home to the clinic I use.. Welp, been here 2 days. Tried to go to work last night, but couldn't even press the gas or brake in my car without agony, and that's after literally falling into the car instead of gracefully sitting down (it also took me a good 5 minutes just to get from her front door to my car.. that's a 1 minute walk normally). Took the night off. Went to my foot doctor today, had xrays, no arthritis in my feet at least, but he said I have a severe tendinitis flareup in my feet and strongly suggested several days off. Got referred to an orthopedist at the same clinic to take a look at my knees and hips, doing that tomorrow morning. Pretty sure there's gonna be some arthritis in my knees, they've been stiff as hell for awhile. Hips started bugging me now and then a few months ago, but nothing like this until last night. The xrays will tell all, though. This is what getting old is like, isn't it? 
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meatpimp posted:Edit: I've been into cars for over 40 years. Time to look to something different. There is a revolution just starting to peek it's head up and I'm all about it. Electric vehicles are superior to ICE vehicles. AI or not. Here's a thought: I love the sound of a V8, or even a good 4 or 6, but it's hard to argue with the performance of a good EV, and how well the torque characteristics of an electric motor pair up with what is actually needed in a vehicle. I look forward very much to near drop-in drivetrain replacements for classics. Sure, keep a few stock and restored, just like we already do, but I want to drive the old stuff without destroying the world. Right now, conversions are more expensive than anything but hoo-boy HP fossil drivetrains, but those prices should come down. I would love to EV one of my non-running RX-7s so... all of them, currently. It would seem appropriate, somehow, even if the lack of ear-splitting angry bees would be wrong. Applebees Appetizer posted:I have guns too and would like some more I dig guns, and grew up around them (dad and uncles hunt,) but they are expensive toys, so I only have a couple myself. Krakkles posted:I believe I’m supposed to laugh at the idea of needing a license Same. Even before the Republicans pushed me away with their antics, I was leaning in the direction of "maybe we need to make sure these people are qualified to handle a murder instrument." Ether Frenzy posted:Most states: Can't go fishing without a license! But go ahead and have a gun, see ya later! Exactly. Assertions of fear and hero-complex are spot on, BTW. None of the hunters I know bother to carry, unless they're going out into the field, and that's for snakes and stuff. Kivi posted:Thanks. I found several things I didn't know I needed but really wanted by this thread too. Ali Express is insidious like that. bird with big dick posted:My guns are strictly for penis replacement purposes I have no fantasies that I'll ever use one in self defense. That sounds like a request for another edit on your avatar.  BuckyDoneGun posted:You don’t need to dress up like a cowboy to ride a horse, nor does one dress like Kiss to play a guitar. You go too far, sir (or ma'am.)
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I bought two handguns early in the year because there was an incident 4 blocks away where two guys tried to kick in a front door at noon. The elderly owner shot one and the other escaped. Over that week there were record numbers of break in reports and then the police announced they wouldn't be responding to certain types of calls so the paranoia got to me and we bought some guns. Which have sat in their cases untouched along with the now scarce 9mm I hoarded.
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Darchangel posted:You go too far, sir (or ma'am.) You don’t need to, but I wouldn’t laugh at you if you did. Unlike Meal Team 6. I’d say you also don’t need to dress like a mechanic to drive cars, but if you’ve got RX7’s then yeah you probably do 
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Rhyno posted:I bought two handguns early in the year because there was an incident 4 blocks away where two guys tried to kick in a front door at noon. The elderly owner shot one and the other escaped. Over that week there were record numbers of break in reports and then the police announced they wouldn't be responding to certain types of calls so the paranoia got to me and we bought some guns. if you're gonna own a gun for any reason, but especially defense reasons, you better practice with it because the second you have put your hand on it you have now escalated to a lethal force situation
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I know. They're locked up for now. The house sale and move kind of threw our life into chaos. We will find time to learn in the near future.
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I’m in the “got a bunch of guns but don’t post obsessively about them” gang. They’re fun for target practice and obviously hunting but the ammo situation has gotten ridiculous this year. I can’t find a single box of 30-30 for my deer rifle (only have 13 rounds left) and finding bricks of cheap poo poo .22 for plinking with my son was a complete bitch. Can’t say I don’t have one of the pistols nearby for the just-in-case scenarios but honestly I have no desire to ever use it. I’m perfectly happy with shooting at paper, spinning targets, rubber cubes and bowling pins in the backyard.
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With all the subforum name changes - is there a unofficial/not actually legal advise thread? I'm not sure all who remember, but I posted months ago about my wifing bringing home/wanting to help a homeless family... and well, it went terribly terribly wrong. I had the mom removed by the sheriff this morning and just spent an hour on the phone with DHS/CPS...Currently researching restraining orders/death threats. Wish me luck! the spyder fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oh poo poo. Gun chat suddenly relevant.
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the spyder posted:With all the subforum name changes - is there a unofficial/not actually legal advise thread? Ugh. "No good deed goes unpunished" is true I guess. That sucks man, hope it all works out for you.
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Rhyno posted:Oh poo poo. Gun chat suddenly relevant. Quite. I’m not a big gun person like some of my friends, but I’m pretty much in your shoes ownership wise.
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the spyder posted:With all the subforum name changes - is there a unofficial/not actually legal advise thread? Oh, goddammit. Does no good deed go unpunished? I suppose it's worth noting that fairly often people are homeless for a reason, and that reason is themselves (usually mental illness of some sort.) e:f,b.
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