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| Perennials! |
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142 | 20.91% |
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30 | 4.42% |
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62 | 9.13% |
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171 | 25.18% |
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60 | 8.84% |
| Non-vascular plants are the best! |
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31 | 4.57% |
| Screw you, I'd rather eat them! |
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183 | 26.95% |
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:#1 does look like an azalea/rhododendron of some sort, but no idea what. #2 looks like a calla lily. Happened to wikipedia it to get the scientific name and it looks exactly like this guy: Thanks! Spring will probably solve 1&3.  It's a nice garden. I'll be bugging the gardening and landscaping threads after I figure out an amendment strategy for this winter. Gotta figure out some proper irrigation and planting schedules so I don't gently caress up the first year. Probably will anyways.
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Oct 5, 2020 21:45
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:That pine sounds neat. I've always figured that for some reason mountain west pines wouldn't do well in the SE, but it's worth a try! Are the needles even bigger than a longleaf pine? Both trees are closely related, so the needles are pretty comparable in size, both maxing out around 16-18 inches. I like the branch structure of the Apache more so heres hoping it takes off also, drat right, already have a bigleaf lol. Also two ashe magnolias in opposite beds in the backyard, so it'll look real wild out there one day. Up front we have a mature magnolia grandiflora and have put in both a star and jane last year that are doing well. so now that im up to seven total, ive either gotta dial back on the magnolias or ramp it up and get a weird collection going on subpar anachronism posted:I would recommend against a watering app, especially with the seasons changing. You're likely to end up overwatering everything. fear not friend, im far too lazy and fickle to let some bullshit app order me around, but someone else might benefit from this advice lol
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Oct 6, 2020 01:54
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Oil of Paris posted:Both trees are closely related, so the needles are pretty comparable in size, both maxing out around 16-18 inches. I like the branch structure of the Apache more so heres hoping it takes off  Collect! Collect! Collect! Collect! I have a saucer/japanese magnolia, a bigleaf, and a huge grandiflora hanging over the fence form my neighbors and I love them all. The bigleaf magnolia has grown insanely fast. I planted it 4-5 years ago and it's already 15-20' tall, but it's also growing in fairly ideal conditions. It hasn't bloomed yet, but I think it might this spring/summer. There are some neat spots in the woods with bigleaf magnolia, magnolia grandiflora, ashe or pyramid (idk how to distinguish them) magnolia, sweetbay magnolia, cucumbertree, and tulip poplar all growing within sight of each other and it's like a native magnolia museum. I remember reading about some guy in New Jersey with a collection of 200+ magnolia varieties.
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Oct 6, 2020 02:34
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I love tulip trees. Just a shame they grow so fast and big or I would recommend them to anyone. Curious, how big are they in the wild where you are?
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Oct 6, 2020 09:19
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RickRogers posted:I love tulip trees. Just a shame they grow so fast and big or I would recommend them to anyone. I know the name “tulip tree” can refer to several different trees, but if you’re talking about the liriodendron tulipifera they are absolutely massive in the wild here. There’s a couple in the woods behind me that just dominate the skyline, probably easily over 120-130 feet tall, towers over nearby mature white oak and sycamores. Looks like the record specimen is 191.8 ft tall
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Oct 6, 2020 10:27
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Oil of Paris posted:I know the name “tulip tree” can refer to several different trees, but if you’re talking about the liriodendron tulipifera they are absolutely massive in the wild here. There’s a couple in the woods behind me that just dominate the skyline, probably easily over 120-130 feet tall, towers over nearby mature white oak and sycamores. Looks like the record specimen is 191.8 ft tall Yeah, here it is really just L. tulipifera that we name tulip tree. I just adore them and would love to climb a big one, as here they are just ornamentals that get pruned regularly. Love the flowers, leaves, crown shape, love the fall colours, the way they move in the wind: even love the stripy bark. I have a fastigiate cultivar in the garden, let's just wait and see how it goes....
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Oct 6, 2020 12:20
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RickRogers posted:Yeah, here it is really just L. tulipifera that we name tulip tree. I just adore them and would love to climb a big one, as here they are just ornamentals that get pruned regularly. Love the flowers, leaves, crown shape, love the fall colours, the way they move in the wind: even love the stripy bark. Tulip Poplar is the tallest tree (or maybe just deciduous tree? maybe white pine gets taller?) in eastern North America. The Joyce Kilmer Memorial forest in western North Carolina is like a monument to the tulip poplar. There is a whole grove of virgin ones there and it is pretty spectacular. In my area where growing conditions aren't quite as good for them, they are fast growing and still get very large. They grow almost as fast and straight as the pines.
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Oct 6, 2020 13:05
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Oil of Paris posted:Very pleased with the umbrella magnolia, I've wanted one for a little while now but its either been out of stock or outrageously expensive. I love the way these look but every time I see large-leaved magnolias at nurseries around here they look like poo poo, I'm guessing because they aren't that well suited to the climate even if they can survive here. You growing any umbrella pines in there? I guess those are big needles in the wrong direction.
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Oct 6, 2020 15:06
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Looking for suggestions here. I've got a small space in the bay area with 100% shade (Here are a couple pictures: 1, 2) That sprinkler doesn't work btw, so it's not a frequently watered spot either. I'm trying to plant something that will partially block the view of our mailboxes from the street. The folks at the plant store recommended those as options: Loropetalum Pittisporum Podocarpus Japanese Maple (my favorite) The first three though are bit too dense for what I'm looking for though. The Japanese Maple would be perfect, but apparently the tree before we moved in there was a Japanese Maple and it died, possibly because it was too shady of a spot. I'm kinda leaning towards trying again on the Japanese maples because they look so good, but I'm curious what other folks might suggest here. El Mero Mero fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 16:43
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El Mero Mero posted:Looking for suggestions here. I've got a small space in the bay area with 100% shade (Here are a couple pictures: 1, 2) Japanese maples (palmatum or japonica) can get a a fungus that kills the off slowly but surely, at least in my temperate climate. Be sure if that's what killed the last one or not, because any new tree in the same spot will be at risk. (Also drought and total shade will not be ideal!) Edit: maybe a Euyonymus alatus (compactus) or/and get rid of the rose and have a climbing hydrangea instead. Not sure if those are appropriate to your area, but they are more dry tolerant than a maple RickRogers fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 16:54
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El Mero Mero posted:Looking for suggestions here. I've got a small space in the bay area with 100% shade (Here are a couple pictures: 1, 2) There are small/dwarf camellias that might do well there. They like shade, don't usually need irrigation in my wet climate, but I'm not familiar with the bay area. Fatsia japonica would be another good option. Both are everygreen. Lorapetulum and podocarpus are snoozeville boring but also pretty tough. Some other vine thing might be an option, or cut back and train that rose on the fence to screen what you want screened.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:46
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:cut back and train that rose on the fence to screen what you want screened. Kill the rose op, you know you want to
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Oct 6, 2020 19:11
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Yeah I’d vote for fatsia or an aucuba over anything else. That spot is dark as hell, a maple will struggle there until it eventually succumbs to some manner of rot. Rhododendron could probably hang, maybe never flower but it would fill the space
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Oct 7, 2020 00:26
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Oil of Paris posted:Yeah I’d vote for fatsia or an aucuba over anything else. That spot is dark as hell, a maple will struggle there until it eventually succumbs to some manner of rot. Rhododendron could probably hang, maybe never flower but it would fill the space
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Oct 7, 2020 00:31
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:First sasanqua about to bloom. That means it's officially finally the pleasant part of the year here.
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Oct 7, 2020 01:27
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Camellia’s are such a delight, can’t wait to expand my collection. I think I’m going to stick to species for now but with Camellia Forest down the road I really can’t help myself. This plantsman poo poo isn’t for the faint of heart or weak of wallet lol
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Oct 7, 2020 01:56
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Oil of Paris posted:Camellia’s are such a delight, can’t wait to expand my collection. I think I’m going to stick to species for now but with Camellia Forest down the road I really can’t help myself. This plantsman poo poo isn’t for the faint of heart or weak of wallet lol snailshell posted:Gorgeous!!! Have you ever been to Descanso Gardens, in northern Los Angeles? They have an unbelievably beautiful 19-acre camellia collection, allegedly North America's largest. That bud did finally open: 
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Oct 7, 2020 02:46
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Aucuba is a great idea I forgot about but buy a big one because they grow slooooow. Yeah this is great. I'm gonna dig through some varieties, but I like this more than anything else (viable) that I've seen so far. Thanks!
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Oct 7, 2020 08:10
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El Mero Mero posted:Yeah this is great. I'm gonna dig through some varieties, but I like this more than anything else (viable) that I've seen so far. Thanks! Good deal! They're dioecious, so if you pick up both a male and female cultivar, you'll get the fruit on the female
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Oct 7, 2020 10:49
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I learned today that the red fruit on the Cornus kousa I planted earlier this year is edible and it tastes pretty alright. I had no idea.
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Oct 7, 2020 15:40
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Dang right, the seeds are awful though.
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Oct 7, 2020 16:55
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I originally posted this in the wrong thread, so please allow me to quote myself.Sarah Bellum posted:Dear gardening goons, What I mean by "Morticia Addams-inspired": Sarah Bellum posted:Near-black shrubs and flowers and bright white flowers interspersed with tall spiky, striking deep reds and purples. I also have some black star calla lily bulbs, loves-lies-bleeding seeds. Not sure what else, off the top of my head. My seeds and bulb stash is buried deep in the shed. Oh, and some purple morning glory that I grow in containers to train up the drainpipes. These are in addition to what the gardener is providing and honestly, I thought he'd be leaving me more room to do my own thing.
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Oct 10, 2020 20:36
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I'd definitely throw in oxalis triangularis. Purple leaves, pale pink flowers. I have a bunch of it, it's really easy to grow and propagate (not my photo):
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Oct 10, 2020 21:09
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Sarah Bellum posted:I originally posted this in the wrong thread, so please allow me to quote myself. Some Eryngium varieties might meet a few of your criteria (spiky/weird/purple); leavenworthii flowers extremely purple. There are both purple and white flowering Echinops with relatively unusual flowers. There are some really beautiful Allium that flower in deep burgundy—I just planted some amethystinum a couple of weeks ago. Hylotelephium telephium (aka Sedum telephium) has deep red/purple foliage and flowers pretty high. There are some gorgeous Sempervivum that are extremely dark and/or purple if you're into that kind of thing. Euphorbia 'nothowlee' has really striking dark foliage and unusual flowers; here's a picture of a little one I have in my garden since I have it handy:  As far as near black shrubs go there are some Physocarpus opulifolius cultivars that might work though it could be a little hot for them where you are. Loropetalum chinense ‘Dark Fire’ (and probably a number of other cultivars) has both dark foliage and striking red blooms. That's all I got. Good luck! Wallet fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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Oct 10, 2020 22:04
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Oooh, you people get me! These are all exactly what I was thinking of. Thank you!
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Oct 10, 2020 22:17
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I'm going to bed now, so I'll give this some real thought later, but a shrub that has both dark foliage, bright white flower spikes and is kind of weird looking is Cotinus coggygria "Royal Purple". Kind of nice in the background and as a contrast with other things. In the Eucalyptus family. I will also always recommend a climbing hydrangea. In winter the exposed stems are also twisty and decorative. The list from your gardener, at first glance, looks like normal and nice enough plants you would get from a garden centre around here. So maybe not your style. Just a warning though, decorative, edible and tasty may not not always go together! You could get a crazy looking Fuchsia for example, but the berries are mostly watery and pointless. Edit: as already mentioned, Sempervivum are great. I collect them and you can combine the colours and flowers in interesting and unexpected ways. I also collect toad-lillys, but everyone has something to be ashamed of RickRogers fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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Oct 10, 2020 22:28
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Ah, just remembered a shrub, if you aren't already aware; Sambucus nigra "Black Tower" or "Black Lace" Very dark foliage, White flowers/black berries, native to Europe, edible etc. If you are living in Holland, there are massive wholesale plant buying places, nurseries and so on. Might be worth visiting and see what jumps out at you. RickRogers fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 13:25
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I already have a Sambucus nigra ''Black lace" in a container waiting to go in a nice quiet corner. I go plant shopping and browsing quite often but currently have mobility problems so I'm reliant on what he can bring and what can be delivered to my door. I think of nurturing a garden as a perpetual work-in-progress so it's likely that even some of the acceptable plants from his list will be replaced eventually. I'll be adding to it all the time. I also have some large pots and planters to work with. All hydrangeas and decorative grasses have been nixxed from the list, as well as the geranium/salvia/gaura/persicaria because he was going to put them in my bulb strip. I'm not sure what to replace the hydrangeas with - one type was intended to trim off the area for the bins and the other would have been the centrepiece of a flower bed. I've just added 9 Allium "Gladiator" and 5 Fritillaria persica to my bulb order because I have no impulse control - just have to order Oxalis triangularis from another site and then show some restraint for a season. I already grow and propagate all sorts indoors, including sempervivium, so I can transplant some outside in future. Thanks for all the advice!
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Oct 11, 2020 16:03
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Probably not hardy outdoors for you, but purple tradescantia/wandering jew might be up your alley. There are some purple weeping beeches too that are pretty if you have the space.
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Oct 11, 2020 16:35
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This is the space I'm working with:  Right now we have most of the exterior fence and all of the hedging done. The rest is still a mix of swamp and desert punctuated with piles of bricks.
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Oct 11, 2020 17:09
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Speaking of dark plants, anyone know of any way I could get my hands on some black sweet potato vine cuttings in Canada?
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Oct 11, 2020 18:53
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Sarah Bellum posted:This is the space I'm working with: If your garden has nice wet and shady areas, maybe Hosta, the bigger leaves, glaucous varieties. The new shoots in spring are also tasty. Also, Rodgerseria "Irish bronze" or something, has very dark red leaves. Don't eat them.
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Oct 11, 2020 19:41
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Looks like I missed the party but good suggestions all around, especially the Cotinus Royal Smoke, which would have been my first suggestion Here's some Gothic looking plants: Fagus sylvatica "tortuosa purpurea" Diervilla ×splendens 'El Madrigal' (Nightglow) Not sure if it's viable where you live but here's a crepe myrtle with dark foliage and blood red flowers: Lagerstroemia 'Ebony Embers' (Black Diamond Red Hot) Cercis canadensis 'Ruby Falls' Berberis thunbergii 'Helmond Pillar' Weigela "Date Night Tuxedo" Eucomis comosa 'Sparkling Burgundy' Helleborus x hybridus 'Dark and Handsome' Ajuga "Black Scallop" Astilbe 'Chocolate Shogun' Hibiscus "Dark Mystery" Let me know how these strike you, if they don't fit the bill I'm sure I can think of some others
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Oct 12, 2020 12:11
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Worth noting that those dark ZZ varietals that were super trendy and expensive last year are cheap and easy to get now. Also saw some purple and dark-dark green morphs of those chunky little Jello Jiggler Haworthias that seem to be having a small moment right now at the plant store this weekend. Maybe worth keeping an eye open.
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Oct 12, 2020 12:26
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Ok Comboomer posted:Worth noting that those dark ZZ varietals that were super trendy and expensive last year are cheap and easy to get now. Yep, I think they're in the same set the network calatheas are under the costa farms brand. Been going for about $20 at lowes
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Oct 12, 2020 16:07
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Hello plant friends, I have questions on the continued care of my dwarf citrus. I noticed that starting last week some leaves are brown and curling and others have spots and other damage. From googling it seems I've acquired a spider aphid infestation.  My questions are; does this look like it's just the insects or do I have other issues? From the fact some areas of the tree are unaffected I'm wondering if there's inconsistent draining happening to some of the roots or perhaps my fertilizer is sightly wrong? Is it just the recent cold snap combined with the aphids? For the insects, is there a best way to remove them or should I just wipe down each leaf and branch? Here's the pics with symptoms. Webbing indicating insect issue and slight browning on some leaves:  Some leaves heavily curled and dry, others totally fine:   Thanks once again for any advice! jojoinnit fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 17:25
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Ok Comboomer posted:Also saw some purple and dark-dark green morphs of those chunky little Jello Jiggler Haworthias that seem to be having a small moment right now at the plant store this weekend. Maybe worth keeping an eye open. Is a jello jiggler just one of the Haworthia with fat/semi-transparent leaves like retusa var. springbokvlakensis or cooperi var. truncata or something or is there a new cultivar with a really stupid name? Wallet fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Oct 12, 2020 17:47
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Wallet posted:Is a jello jiggler just one of the Haworthia with fat/semi-transparent leaves like retusa var. springbokvlakensis or cooperi var. truncata or something or is there a new cultivar with a really stupid name? Nope those are the ones I’m talking about, I gave them that dumb descriptor. They’ve got fat squared off leaves. Is this some kind of monstrose deal? Some of them seem to have their leaves straighten out and become more like normal Haworthia with time/the appropriate circumstances but I have no idea what those are. They look neat
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Oct 12, 2020 19:01
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jojoinnit posted:Hello plant friends, I have questions on the continued care of my dwarf citrus. I noticed that starting last week some leaves are brown and curling and others have spots and other damage. From googling it seems I've acquired a spider aphid infestation. Get on the bugs ASAP because they'll only get worse and risk spreading to other stuff. I use a spray bottle with water and a bit of mild soap (aka not detergent) and oil, like 1 tablespoon each per liter (don't have to be very precise). Neem oil is the best, but a veg oil will substitute in a pinch; important thing is it sticks to and suffocates the buggers. Spray heavily, then rinse it off after 20 minutes or something. Works best outside obviously... The browning I'm not sure, it does kinda look like cold damage? I've never had it though so I can't say for sure.
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Oct 12, 2020 20:00
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Spider mites for sure. I would cover the soil so it doesn't fly everywhere and haul the whole thing into the shower before applying the spray. They'll spread on a breeze so you want to quarantine that asap.
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Oct 12, 2020 20:17
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