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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

brian posted:

it's ok if you guys want to get your wallets inspected but to me it's very clear what this entire tweet is trying to do and it's not just to ironically harp on anarchists lol, the chomsky interview being behind a paywall is the key reason why it's a grift, i did not say that the entire podcast started as a grift
I'm not giving Virgil money until he responds to my emails.

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Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"
it's a pointless dance, but at least it's one people know and find comforting. the poor Internet Culture Warrior thread has been doing the "cancel cumtown" dance for the last day and a half despite no-one being willing to admit they've ever listened to it or know anything about it.

Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'
why the hell is it podcasts that get people to lose their mind? is it because so many people pretend they are all friends or something?

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
old man gets one simple question, clearly defined on “what to do besides voting?”, and that MIT Media Lab Epstein defending motherfucker goes “Do you want Trump to win?”

real loving liberal bird brain hours

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Paffgen posted:

I wonder if the pod save boys will talk about this...
And yeah if you pay for something because it intrigues you how does that make the creators of the thing grifters? Are they selling magic tonics? What false advertising is involved? And anyone who spent two minutes googling would know that the patreon eps have been posted for free on reddit and elsewhere like the chapo eps.
Well like, the people who bought the Safety Pin Box presumably got their stupid box and activity book or whatever, but what they thought they were buying was therapy to cleanse themselves of racism. That makes it a grift (and good on them for grifting anyone dumb enough to buy anti-racism in a box).

Eustace posted:

I remember when chapo was first getting really big that people on twitter were like "gently caress these sexist brocialist, if you want to listen to a real leftist podcast thats even better subscribe to season of the bitch" and it was like 3 DSA witches with depression reading theory to each other in monotone
No vocal fry? What a ripoff.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

Danger posted:

why the hell is it podcasts that get people to lose their mind? is it because so many people pretend they are all friends or something?

a lot of people with their identity tied up in being "leftist" get a specific strain of brain worms where they can't focus on anything other than how other peple are doing leftism wrong

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Often Abbreviated posted:

it's a pointless dance, but at least it's one people know and find comforting. the poor Internet Culture Warrior thread has been doing the "cancel cumtown" dance for the last day and a half despite no-one being willing to admit they've ever listened to it or know anything about it.

i was wondering why there hadn't been the usual :qq: cum town is strasserism :qq: poo poo in this thread for a while. figures that they didn't actually stop whining about it, the whining just changed venues

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Danger posted:

why the hell is it podcasts that get people to lose their mind? is it because so many people pretend they are all friends or something?
Yes.

With Chapo specifically, it's because it was the first explicitly leftist anything in a long time that has a sizeable popular audience, and if I'm a leftist and there's one piece of leftist media then I need it to mirror and validate all of my thoughts and opinions.

Paffgen
Jul 13, 2009

Eustace posted:

I remember when chapo was first getting really big that people on twitter were like "gently caress these sexist brocialist, if you want to listen to a real leftist podcast thats even better subscribe to season of the bitch" and it was like 3 DSA witches with depression reading theory to each other in monotone

That none of the other twitter socialist women in 2016-18 bothered to get it together for an all girls podcast is an indictment of them lol, say what you will of the Red Scare girls and their dubious political alliances but they did fill that niche before anyone with serious political commitments did, no brains needed just a little charisma.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star
this podcast poo poo is funny lol

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
As near as I can tell, Red Scare's strategy was saying anything to get as many people as possible talking about Red Scare. It worked, and this is why I hate half of you.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Zhulik posted:

this podcast poo poo is funny lol

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
give your money to john dolan, he needs a win.

QUEER FRASIER
May 31, 2011

I don’t think any podcast will have any impact on ‘the left’ I just think it’s dumb and sad but also pretty funny that a) they invited on some well meaning 100 year old leftist who’s been saying the same poo poo about voting for like 30 years to ‘own him’ and b) it worked and they made a fuckton of money off it

more generally I appreciate that the C-Spam disease of being so convinced that voting doesn’t matter that you spend all of your time screaming at people not to vote for Biden is now accessible in podcast form

QUEER FRASIER has issued a correction as of 17:38 on Oct 13, 2020

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

“grift” has most widely come to mean “something i don’t like that makes money”
correct. grift has lost all relevant meaning because internet. grifting is under false pretenses like that Whitefish Montana dude sucking stephen millers putrefying dick in order to get like $1 billion to "rebuild puerto rico" and pocketting it. arguebly that's not exactly a grift because everyone involved there knows exactly they're just lining their ivy league roommates best friend's brother's pocket, but at least false-pretenses for the public. and also another dozen words (that shouldn't have ever been used widely as they ended up) as well have absolutely no relevant and just used as dum dum buzzwords.

Eustace posted:

I remember when chapo was first getting really big that people on twitter were like "gently caress these sexist brocialist, if you want to listen to a real leftist podcast thats even better subscribe to season of the bitch" and it was like 3 DSA witches with depression reading theory to each other in monotone
twitter has and will always be terrible, but yeah sort of pre-2015 "left" was just really toxic 'check ur privilege / 1st world problems' smug moral superiority non-sense more invoking of spotting and shunting the interloper in a clique than anything else.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

uber_stoat posted:

give your money to john dolan, he needs a win.

Funding John is like funding an unintentional Pale Horse, chaos and destruction just follow that man like a cloud of flies. I'm fully expecting the Good Friday agreement to fall apart after he leaves Belfast in November.

By and far the best patreon to follow.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


THS posted:

virgil continues to be the most powerful member of the dirtbag left and i salute him

more powerful than brace? no. i would say instead he is more masterful.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Re: Grift

Liberals and leftists actually pretty consistent views as to what counts as grift. They just have different conceptions of it.

Left (or at least leftist twitter) sees grift as insincerity in the name of career climbing. Charlotte "everything that Bernie does is race-sexist but Biden is the first intersectional candidate" Clymmer, Eric "game theory" Garland, Joy "time traveling hackers" Reid. These all count as grifters.

Liberals see grift as not playing by the traditional careerist rules. You gotta have the credentials and be an intern, then a regular writer, then a columnist. Any thing that bypasses this career track is grifting. Hence Chapo, Brie, etc. are all grifters in their eyes.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


this week i discovered the Magnificast (christian socialists) and re-discovered Relentless Picnic (somewhere between Swampside Chats and Radiolab), and all y'all who liked the Ballin Out Super radio plays, that guy made a whole 'cast for more of those, Theater Of Delights

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Halloween Jack posted:

As near as I can tell, Red Scare's strategy was saying anything to get as many people as possible talking about Red Scare. It worked, and this is why I hate half of you.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

brian posted:

it's ok if you guys want to get your wallets inspected but to me it's very clear what this entire tweet is trying to do and it's not just to ironically harp on anarchists lol, the chomsky interview being behind a paywall is the key reason why it's a grift, i did not say that the entire podcast started as a grift

https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1315666077699932161

If anarchists want to whine about statist that carried out a successful revolution while they have done nothing then they get a little hazing.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Paffgen posted:

That none of the other twitter socialist women in 2016-18 bothered to get it together for an all girls podcast is an indictment of them lol, say what you will of the Red Scare girls and their dubious political alliances but they did fill that niche before anyone with serious political commitments did, no brains needed just a little charisma.
so i got an idea, the golden girls have a podcast, but they're all stalinists

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


THS posted:

which podcast or tweetstorms move the left forward

mine, of course

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Proles of the Roundtable was fun until they imploded over an incredibly stupid idea for a business and then published accounts of the drama in tankiespeak.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Halloween Jack posted:

As near as I can tell, Red Scare's strategy was saying anything to get as many people as possible talking about Red Scare. It worked, and this is why I hate half of you.

yeah idk if anyone remembers but pre-red scare anna on twitter was nowhere near as dumb. she definitely played into it once she realized making people freak out and angry quote tweet her was boosting her Podcasting Career.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

brian posted:

i had no real opinion on virgil until this, seemed fine but didn't really add a lot, just not a fan of obvious grifts that seek to exploit divisions in the left and it doesn't surprise me that the wonk guy would be the first one to exploit the chapo fan base in a cynical fashion, i've really only ever listened to chapo for matt and felix though personally and I think it's inevitable this stuff will happen because of all the money, status and power to influence that corrupts all over time, i hope matt's journey to ego death enures him from this fate

exploiting the massive divide among the dirtbag left between fans of meaningless wonkery and people who want to hear hollywood libs plug their podcast

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i only listen to cum town and matts solo twitch videos now, matts solo show is just him smoking weed and ranting interspersed with him getting mad at the chat

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Halloween Jack posted:

Proles of the Roundtable was fun until they imploded over an incredibly stupid idea for a business and then published accounts of the drama in tankiespeak.

throwing a dart at a two-tone dartboard labelled "BREWERY" and "GAME STUDIO"

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Paffgen posted:

I wonder if the pod save boys will talk about this...

if there was ever a time for an emergency pod

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i only listen to cum town and matts solo twitch videos now, matts solo show is just him smoking weed and ranting interspersed with him getting mad at the chat

gulf war trading card unboxing videos

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

joepinetree posted:

Re: Grift

Liberals and leftists actually pretty consistent views as to what counts as grift. They just have different conceptions of it.

Left (or at least leftist twitter) sees grift as insincerity in the name of career climbing. Charlotte "everything that Bernie does is race-sexist but Biden is the first intersectional candidate" Clymmer, Eric "game theory" Garland, Joy "time traveling hackers" Reid. These all count as grifters.

Liberals see grift as not playing by the traditional careerist rules. You gotta have the credentials and be an intern, then a regular writer, then a columnist. Any thing that bypasses this career track is grifting. Hence Chapo, Brie, etc. are all grifters in their eyes.

This is actually spot on.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Danger posted:

why the hell is it podcasts that get people to lose their mind? is it because so many people pretend they are all friends or something?

as nick mullen pointed out a little while ago posting is simultaneously the easiest thing in the world yet almost everyone is complete dogshit at it. the same applies to podcasts

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i only listen to cum town and matts solo twitch videos now, matts solo show is just him smoking weed and ranting interspersed with him getting mad at the chat

enjoyed that matt ended the last one with “i don’t advocate the death penalty for crimes against persons or property, but i would for crimes against sacred animals” then immediately signed off

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
did podcast just enabled am radio pirate broadcasts to be heard by everyone or they're their own particular thing?

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


as nick mullen pointed out last week,

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

the police megaphone

:siren: PULL OVER. SHOW ME YOUR PUSSY. ARE YOU CHINESE. SHOW ME YOUR PENIS :siren:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


the True Matt Experience is the first minute of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyf3kT6l1a0

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

the True Matt Experience is the first minute of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyf3kT6l1a0

yospos bithc

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

I won't be satisfied until Matt attempts to open a picture on his desktop that is actually ransomware

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i only listen to cum town and matts solo twitch videos now, matts solo show is just him smoking weed and ranting interspersed with him getting mad at the chat
are you me??? this is pretty much exactly what I do. i catch a lot of them live too

except also trueanon

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

drat it's been so long since a trueanon stream that they've been time-bumped from their twitch channel

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