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Snow Cone Capone posted:I probably missed the plot hints because I was young but when you get to Esthar and it turns out Laguna is the president was a pretty I played it in German (Which I didn't understand quite as well as English and Dutch) and I remember being so confused as well. I was confused for the majority of the game. Played it in English over a decade later only to realise that's just how FF8 rolls in some regards.
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SettingSun posted:Do people think FFX is bad? It is a top tier FF. I think it's mainly the voice acting being wonky and Tidus's "forced laughing" scene that got memed to death. Wonky voice acting is tolerably (playing it now, it's not even as bad as I remembered it), and the laughter makes more sense in context, it just makes some people cringe so hard they miss the point.
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Oct 13, 2020 17:05
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Yeah but Tidus makes up for it with the macarena scene. Aaayye!
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Oct 13, 2020 17:15
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JagerNinja posted:I think it's mainly the voice acting being wonky and Tidus's "forced laughing" scene that got memed to death. Wonky voice acting is tolerably (playing it now, it's not even as bad as I remembered it), and the laughter makes more sense in context, it just makes some people cringe so hard they miss the point. It all got meme'd to death -- Wakka's weird speech pattern, No Horn Kimahri, Auron saying "Sin is Jecht" every other scene, "LET'S BLITZ!!!!11" and so on. Replaying the game later I've found none of those things to be especially irritating.
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Oct 13, 2020 17:21
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JagerNinja posted:I think it's mainly the voice acting being wonky and Tidus's "forced laughing" scene that got memed to death. Wonky voice acting is tolerably (playing it now, it's not even as bad as I remembered it), and the laughter makes more sense in context, it just makes some people cringe so hard they miss the point. My favorite thing is the VA for Tidus making a video that was basically "Yeah the laugh scene is awkward... It was supposed to be"
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Oct 13, 2020 17:21
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The T40s certainly thought FFX was poo poo and LP opinions influenced a lot of opinions on this forum once upon a time. But I think most people around here now recognize tah truth that FFX is the best FF and is incredibly good in pretty much every area. I haven't seen many people seriously say it's bad in a long, long time.
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Oct 13, 2020 17:25
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the best final fantasy is mystic quest everything else is a distant second and I will never change my opinion
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Oct 13, 2020 17:28
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Leal posted:My favorite thing is the VA for Tidus making a video that was basically "Yeah the laugh scene is awkward... It was supposed to be" I honestly wonder how much poo poo he’s gotten for that over the years. Probably a shitton looking at The Last of Us 2!
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Oct 13, 2020 17:29
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FFX owns and the parts everyone laughs at only add to the experience. I would not play a version of the game that didn't have "Stay away from the summoner!"
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Oct 13, 2020 17:55
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Some things color your whole childhood and I think playing the FFX demo from PlayStation Magazine is one of them for me.
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Oct 13, 2020 18:27
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FFX isn't my favorite FF but it is very, very good and I like it a lot
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Oct 13, 2020 18:53
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FFX's probably the best all-around game in my eyes. There are other games I like more, like FF5 and FF9, but those are mostly due to one aspect of the game, like the gameplay or the characters or whatever. FFX is the game I think does everything well, for the most part. Though it still has its flaws, mainly the garbage mini-games and the grind-focused post-game.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:48
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FFX is probably the best FF game yeah though I like 7 more still
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Oct 13, 2020 19:51
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X is a weird one where I don't think it's many people's favorite, but outside meme nonsense I think most people at least like it quite a bit. It' s not my favorite FF either, but it's probably top 3. That said, gently caress everything about it's post-game. If there's one area FFX is an unmitigated trash fire, it's everything to do with the jump from 'Ready for the Final Dungeon' to 'Beating the final bonus boss.' gently caress the requirements for most of the final weapons, gently caress the material grind for crafting endgame armor and weapons (some situational for just one or two fights,) gently caress the Arena, and holy poo poo gently caress the Dark Aeon fights and double-gently caress the Dark Aeon fights gating you from getting back to important places you may have missed something on your first pass.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:59
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FFX's bonus content is absurd and I haven't actually engaged in it. I did get all the ultimate weapons though and that was enough for me.
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Oct 13, 2020 20:01
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ngl, I really love FFX and the (non-blitzball, non-lightning, non-butterfly) endgame content. It's all pretty fun and satisfying in a 'haha number go up' way. I keep my vita copy of the game around just because I enjoy messing around trying to optimize myself further and further beyond in the handful of minutes I have free now and again. I dunno if I'd put it as top three though. VII, VIII, X, XIII (including LR, excluding XIII-2), and XV kinda all bob and weave in and out of my top three at any given point depending on mood.
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Oct 13, 2020 20:07
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My top FF is X-2. I replay it way more than X in any case.
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Oct 13, 2020 20:13
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Honestly up til XIII I thought all of the mainline games had solid aspects of them where, even with jank, they FELT like FF, and that was an experience I very much liked. Including X, even though it's not my fav. (XIII just never clicked for me; haven't played XV. Excluding the MMOs just because they aren't for me.)
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Oct 13, 2020 20:18
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I think FFX plays a lot better when you're older, and can pick up on some of the more nuanced themes. I was going to say 'subtle', but that's not really true; none of its themes are that subtle, they're just quieter than the surface-level. I think Wakka is the bar to measure against; if you can understand his arc as a small town guy grappling with his own ingrained racism and religious conservatism, you're ready for the rest of the story.
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Oct 13, 2020 23:25
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I also think that gaming criticism has moved away from the way of thinking that got X flamed at the time. Like cheesy voice acting and writing is considered very likeable nowadays by a sizable minority of the gaming population. Think of how Woolsey is much better regarded than he was like in the JRPG communities in the 2000s. Edit: See also the massive decline in literalist translations for Japanese Games and Anime.
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ToxicAcne posted:Edit: See also the massive decline in literalist translations for Japanese Games and Anime. Has that take declined? Dumb idiot literalists seem as loud as ever
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Oct 14, 2020 00:40
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FFX/X-2 form the franchises best character arcs/writing and one of the most interesting and well detailed worlds in the franchises history. That plus it's utterly insane and unique aesthetic really make it a top 3 GOAT game IMO.
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Oct 14, 2020 00:43
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thetoughestbean posted:Has that take declined? Dumb idiot literalists seem as loud as ever Yeah, but there was an upswing on companies trying to cater to them, but most of them have since realized that they are, in fact, dumb idiots who don't know how language works and have since abandoned them for the most part.
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Oct 14, 2020 00:44
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As a total package FFX is the best in the series, and anybody picking another title is entitled to their opinion.
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Oct 14, 2020 00:45
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FFX Bahamut is the best Bahamut of all time, this is objective fact.
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Oct 14, 2020 00:53
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Tidus is the best water summon: FACT
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Eyes on Me is a terrible track. Especially with lyrics. what the gently caress ZenMasterBullshit posted:Eyes on me Hobbled around barely functioning WHAT THE gently caress
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Oct 14, 2020 01:07
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eyes on me and 1000 words Own 
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Oct 14, 2020 01:08
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thank you booky I knew I liked you
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Oct 14, 2020 01:09
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Eyes on Me is one of the three songs that will make me feel chills every time I hear it, no matter how many times or in whatever context
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cheetah7071 posted:thank you booky I knew I liked you 💪
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Eyes on Me is one of the three songs that will make me feel chills every time I hear it, no matter how many times or in whatever context come on now you've got to tell me the other two
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Captain Oblivious posted:FFX Bahamut is the best Bahamut of all time, this is objective fact. I really like 14's just finally being as giant and terrifying as Baby me imagined he was. But 10's is a close second. cheetah7071 posted:what the gently caress The English lyrics are just...not good.
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Captain Oblivious posted:FFX Bahamut is the best Bahamut of all time, this is objective fact. Best Shiva too imo
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Oct 14, 2020 01:26
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What if you mix the best scene from FFX with the best song from FFVIII? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBuUsODscSs
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:FFX/X-2 form the franchises best character arcs/writing and one of the most interesting and well detailed worlds in the franchises history. I spend a lot of time praising FFX's story because I like its structure and themes, but the aesthetic is top-tier stuff. A blend of what I feel that Final Fantasy had been building towards with VII and VIII with some Southeast Asian influence. Lots of elements you don't commonly see in fantasy games, which I appreciate.
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Captain Oblivious posted:FFX Bahamut is the best Bahamut of all time, this is objective fact. FFXV Bahamut, before the .. uh.. other stuff, is a dope iteration. He doesn't launch energy beams or fire breath he just carpet bombs a metropolitan city with swords. gently caress it. FFXV Leviathan also rules. She isn't even the enemy to anyone in the town she's wrecking she's just magnanimous as gently caress.
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jokes posted:FFXV Bahamut, before the .. uh.. other stuff, is a dope iteration. He doesn't launch energy beams or fire breath he just carpet bombs a metropolitan city with swords. gently caress it. When it comes to XV, it's all about Ramuh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_0OCZC8TVY&t=20s He's the first summon you really see in action on your side and he's also the one who will always show up while the others are too situational. I think I only ever saw Titan once or twice and Bahamut for the one mandatory story scene. Leviathan is absolutely awesome from a story viewpoint, though. She's the last great boss in the game. No contention on FFX Bahamut and Shiva being best, though. Bahamut's arms folded "yeah I'm a badass' pose is mazing. And of course X's unique summons are all very memorable with Anima and Yojimbo.
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Oct 14, 2020 01:44
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NikkolasKing posted:Leviathan is absolutely awesome from a story viewpoint, though. She's the last great boss in the game. I forget, was Leviathan the one where you were flying around in some kind of infinite Armiger Mode? Because that fight was awful.
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Actually I remember who started these bad FF takes. Noah Antwiler aka the Spoony One.
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