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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I think GEORGE W BUSHI and Joe Lanza are the only people on planet Earth who watch Zero1

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
bumping for Shingo being Most Outstanding after making the Money Clip look good

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

i think Taz should be considered for Most Improved thank you

Benne posted:

I think GEORGE W BUSHI and Joe Lanza are the only people on planet Earth who watch Zero1

i legit thought they closed shop in 2007 wtf

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


JOHN CENA posted:

i think Taz should be considered for Most Improved thank you


i legit thought they closed shop in 2007 wtf

The Fire Festival is running at the mo. But yeah, you have to go out of your way to follow Z1

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
For me the people in with a shout for most improved are:

- Taichi: went from really good to a MOTYC machine
- Britt Baker: went from go-away heat to the best character in AEW
- Hangman Page: went from very very good to future company ace
- YOSHI-HASHI: went from being YOSHI-HASHI to a legit good wrestler
- Tay Conti: went from being a nobody to a potential star

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


I don't understand the distinction between most outstanding and wrestler of the year

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Artelier posted:

I don't understand the distinction between most outstanding and wrestler of the year

I think most outstanding is the one who has the best matches while wrestler of the year is some kind of combination of match quality, drawing ability and general star power.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Artelier posted:

I don't understand the distinction between most outstanding and wrestler of the year

Most outstanding only considers match quality while wrestler of the year consists of all the qualities that makes a great wrestler great. Someone like Tomohiro Ishii is a strong contender for most outstanding but would struggle in areas such as charisma, drawing power and star quality in the wrestler of the year voting.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

they need to rename the awards to prevent confusion. i was thinking greatest wrestler and best wrestler

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
coolest wrestler and goodest wrestler

Power Windows
Dec 29, 2004

Brasky used to ride upon a steed, perchance to spy a lady.

B+ Player and rear end Kicker

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Good Hand Award vs Superstar Award

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer

JOHN CENA posted:

i think Taz should be considered for Most Improved thank you

That's only for active wrestlers.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


forkboy84 posted:

Category "A" Awards: You vote three times for these.
Pro Wrestling Match of the Year: 1. Go Shiozaki vs Kenoh 10/8 2. Kaito Kiyomiya vs Go Shiozaki 4/1 3. Will Ospreay vs Zack Sabre Jr 14/2

New number 3 is Kento Miyahara vs Zeus from the All Japan Pro Wrestling Champion Carnival Final on 5/10. Stand by NOSAWA as booker of the year after an excellent N1. And Kaito Kiyomiya might end up as #3 on my Most Outstanding, but with BOSJ coming up that could change.

Best TV announcer is Milano Collection AT & I feel bad I forgot that the first time I did this.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 14, 2020

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

All I want to see is Taz bust out one really good old fat retired guy suplex

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Best on Interviews: Taz
Best Non Wrestler: Taz
Best TV Announcer: Taz
Most Improved: Taz

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Please dont rob Excalibur two years in a row

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Best major show is G1 Day 13

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Lid posted:

Best major show is G1 Day 13

Yes

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I'm still leaning towards Revolution which has a big emotional connection to me, but that G1 show is a strong contender

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Updating this at the end of the year
code:
[b][i]Category "A" Awards:[/i][/b] You vote three times for these. 
[b]Lou Thesz/Ric Flair "Wrestler of the Year" Award:[/b]
Kenny Omega
Kota Ibushi
Cody

[b]Most Outstanding Wrestler: [/b]
Tomohiro Ishii
Adam Page
Taichi
[b]Tag Team of the Year: [/b]
Young Bucks
Cowboy Bebop
Dangerous Tekkers
[b]Best on Interviews: [/b]
Ricky Starks
Brodie Lee
Cody
[b]Promotion of the Year: [/b]
AEW
Dragon Gate
NJPW
[b]Best Weekly TV Show: [/b]
Dynamite
I guess Uncharted Territory aired during the voting window
AEW Dark
[b]Pro Wrestling Match of the Year: [/b]
Taichi vs Kota Ibushi, G1 Climax
Cowboy Bebop vs Young Bucks, AEW Revolution
Nyla Rose vs Riho, AEW Dynamite

[b][i]Category "B" Awards:[/i][/b] You vote once for these. 
[b]US/Canada MVP: [/b]
Kenny Omega
[b]Japan MVP: [/b]
Kota Ibushi
[b]Non-Heavyweight MVP: [/b]
Lio Rush
[b]Women's Wrestling MVP: [/b]
Thunder Rosa
[b]Best Box Office Draw:  [/b]
Kenny Omega
[b]Feud of the Year: [/b]
Hangman Adam Page vs The Elite
[b]Most Improved: [/b]
Sonny Kiss
[b]Most Charismatic:[/b]
Hangman Adam Page
[b]Bryan Danielson "Best Technical Wrestler" Award:[/b]
ZSJ
[b]Bruiser Brody Memorial "Best Brawler" Award:[/b]
Jon Moxley
[b]Best Flying Wrestler:[/b]
Sammy Guevara
[b]Most Overrated:[/b]
Will Ospreay
[b]Most Underrated:[/b]
Taiji Ishimori
[b]Rookie of the Year: [/b]
SBKento
[b]Best Non-Wrestler:[/b]
Taz
[b]Best Television Announcer:[/b]
Taz
[b]Worst Television Announcer:[/b]
Kevin Kelly
[b]Best Major Wrestling Show:[/b]
AEW Revolution
[b]Worst Major Wrestling Show:[/b]
WWE's Horror Show At Extreme Rules
[b]Best Wrestling Maneuver:[/b]
Sammy Guevara's 630 Senton
[b]Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic:[/b]
WWE taking every measure possible to encourage their talent to contract COVID-19 at content tapings
[b]Worst Television Show:[/b]
WWE Raw
[b]Worst Match of the Year: [/b]
Sammy Guevara vs Matt Hardy, AEW All Out
[b]Worst Feud of the Year:[/b]
Kazuchika Okada vs Yujiro Takahashi
[b]Worst Promotion of the Year:[/b]
WWE
[b]Best Booker:[/b]
Tony Khan
[b]Promoter of the Year:[/b]
Tony Khan
[b]Best Gimmick:[/b]
John Silver and Alex Reynolds, Recruitment Specialists
[b]Worst Gimmick: [/b]
Jake Hager, MMA Practitioner

[b]Best Pro Wrestling DVD/Streaming Documentary:[/b]
[url="https://youtu.be/rlCuYRHFz_Q"]The Rise And Fall Of Blackcraft Wrestling[/url]

I Before E fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Dec 10, 2020

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Will Hobbs debuted in 2009

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Lid posted:

Will Hobbs debuted in 2009

For a major promotion? That's how I've always understood Best Rookie, like how you can be Rookie Of The Year in the NBA no matter if you've played in the euro leagues, college, or came in right out of high school. If you're debuting for a major promotion, you're eligible.

I Before E fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Oct 14, 2020

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I know some people have debates about what constitutes a rookie, but a man who started wrestling over a decade ago is stretching the definition very very far. If he qualifies we should be voting for WARDLOW.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Fun fact the same show Will Hobbs debuted on also had Timothy Thatcher

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Lid posted:

I know some people have debates about what constitutes a rookie, but a man who started wrestling over a decade ago is stretching the definition very very far. If he qualifies we should be voting for WARDLOW.

I would agree, but I'm not sure he's eligible because he debuted in November 2019, and I'm not sure where the window closes on the WON awards

E: wait, no, he had his first AEW match against Cody in like January, that would count

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




hard to believe youd vote mox/hager as worst match of the year when money in the bank, the swamp match, the kairi concussion festival, edge/orton and anything involving rache chanel were all this year.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Paper Lion posted:

hard to believe youd vote mox/hager as worst match of the year when money in the bank, the swamp match, the kairi concussion festival, edge/orton and anything involving rache chanel were all this year.

That Kairi match was TLC 2019 :eng101:

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Paper Lion posted:

hard to believe youd vote mox/hager as worst match of the year when money in the bank, the swamp match, the kairi concussion festival, edge/orton and anything involving rache chanel were all this year.

For worst match I stick to things I watched

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




eh, only 2 weeks off this year. considering how hosed time has gotten it was a good enough guess.

swampfights and rache chanel on the other hand...........

edit: rating things youve seen only is fair. but i cant believe someone wouldnt hear how awful a match is and find it. or at least consume coverage of it. idk

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Rache Chanel would qualify as a rookie too given she only has nine years experience

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
There are baseball players with over a decade of professional experience who qualify for Rookie of the Year.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Paper Lion posted:

hard to believe youd vote mox/hager as worst match of the year when money in the bank, the swamp match, the kairi concussion festival, edge/orton and anything involving rache chanel were all this year.

It's pretty easy if you watch neither WWE or Dark.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Hopping mad that Niel counted Will Hobbs as a rookie. Just punched a hole in my wall over it.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Sammy/Matt is still WMTOY by a long way

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Lid posted:

Best major show is G1 Day 13

:hmmyes:

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
If you only watch AEW and NJPW, Hager and Mox is a pretty fair shout for WMOTY. It's a pretty significant stain on an otherwise perfect reign for Moxley.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

MJeff posted:

If you only watch AEW and NJPW, Hager and Mox is a pretty fair shout for WMOTY. It's a pretty significant stain on an otherwise perfect reign for Moxley.
it was fine

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

worst match of the year is probably edge vs orton from wrestlemania

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KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
Rookie of the year should be Lee Moriarty

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