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unpacked robinhood posted:I don't have a thermometer but when I start feeling a little feverish I stick a pencil up my rear end and the placebo effect does the rest. Speaking of football, would one work just as well in this case? (asking for a friend)
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Fabulousity posted:I think it's kind of like their North Dakota: It's loaded with a lot of fossil fuel investment generating some pretty crazy short term income for people with preexisting CHUD tendencies who don't realize they're setting fire to the very boat they think is ferrying them to infinite wealth. The fire being COVID mismanagement and long term environmental destruction. Pretty much this. When oil prices are high, Alberta does well, but that hasn’t been the case for many years. I’m still here as my wife works in oil and gas, but the writing is on the wall I think. I’m already starting to think about moving even though I’ve lived in Alberta all my life. And we are usually expected to vote Conservative by the country every election. Also I’d guess 50-75% or more of white males here drive a large truck (though many don’t need one).
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Kragger99 posted:Also I’d guess 50-75% or more of white males here drive a large truck (though many don’t need one). What? Are you insinuating that an F350 isn't a good daily driver?
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Gildiss posted:normal normal nORmal NORMal normAl NORML NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL NORMAL I just looked it up to verify, and it seems the Chiefs and Cowboys are allowing the most fans, but many teams are not allowing fans in the stadiums. It really seems to follow state political alignment.
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Mithaldu posted:i live in germany I’m always confused where the trust of the government starts and stops with SA. The majority here seem to know Trump is a cheat, liar and all around bad guy , but at the same time the idea that he would fake a sickness for whatever reason is unthinkable . I’m unclear on what the relevance is to that particular geographic location, but I would image they still have a healthy dose of skepticism of government.
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Dude was gasping for breath pretty hard there while pretending nothing was wrong after being "released" from the hospital. I'm gonna trust my eyes and ears.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:Dude was gasping for breath pretty hard there while pretending nothing was wrong after being "released" from the hospital. I'm gonna trust my eyes and ears. At his age it takes more effort to digest seven Big Macs.
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Hadlock posted:Yeah at this point the whole planet (except China and NZ) has unofficially adopted herd immunity as the solution That is not what herd immunity means. I don’t know where this is coming from, but I have heard it in a couple of places and it is terrifyingly stupid. The only herd immunity humanity has ever had has been the result of universal vaccination. Before then diseases would roll through populations once a year or sometimes as infrequently as once every few decades but they always, always came back and it was always even worse the second time because the community had already been weakened by the first wave of deaths. Study any disease. Literally any of them. Hell, take the flu, which idiots keep comparing COVID-19 to. Even with widespread, free vaccines it infects a portion of our population every single year. This sounds more aggressive than I want it to. I can tell you think it is a stupid idea, and I am not mad at you specifically. However, allowing the idea to spread that some mystical “herd immunity” might spring out of the nothing our governments are doing is so insanely reckless I can’t find the right words to express what an abomination the idea is. Our governments aren’t adopting herd immunity as a solution, they’re choosing for people to die, both now and for forever after. It is madness. Evil ghoulish madness.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:You can also pay to have Osama bin Laden's likeness added, the intern they have running the program isn't super attentive drat you Obama, you told me I'd never see bin Laden walk the earth again! Also to the guy with the hosed up nose, just wear a full-face 3M, that's what I do and they're way more comfy than the half-face, plus better for my allergies as I don't get anything in my eyes either.
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Oct 14, 2020 19:09
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Well that's a 9pm curfew for me
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Plus side we keep having what look like good signs for long-term immunity in most cases. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/10/14/immunity-and-re-infection Should be favorable for vaccine efficacy as well. Seems to also indicate targeting the spike protein was a good idea.
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LLSix posted:The only herd immunity humanity has ever had has been the result of universal vaccination. I just did a 5 minute search on herd immunity without vaccines and I found nothing. That's a pretty good talking point, if true, if someone brings that bullshit up.
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oh hey someone who is getting the best quality care possible is getting worse and there might not be anything doctors can really do id say its gonna be a harsh reality check but i can imagine the spin machine blaming it on the stress of campaigning against biden or something equally stupid
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IncredibleIgloo posted:A lot of the football games are having crowds, depending on the state. I think the chiefs game last week had 19k in attendance. Florida State's coach said the reason the Gators are doing poorly is a lack of crowds, and he said he wants to "Pack The Swamp," referring to filling their stadium to capacity for the next game. It's going well.
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Scarodactyl posted:Plus side we keep having what look like good signs for long-term immunity in most cases. Great signs for long-term immunity and reinfection outcomes, yeah.
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Dr.Caligari posted:I’m always confused where the trust of the government starts and stops with SA. The majority here seem to know Trump is a cheat, liar and all around bad guy , but at the same time the idea that he would fake a sickness for whatever reason is unthinkable . I think most agree that he will lie but that faking a sickness would not enter his brain because he is not smart enough to think beyond “healthy=strong”. The strongest argument is that no one leaked it. Trump’s cons are always laughably inept and fall apart almost immediately because he and his flunkies always screw up or forget about the supporting details.
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Someone getting chemo for bone marrow cancer getting reinfected and dying sucks but is not much of a concern from an epidemiological perspective.
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unpacked robinhood posted:Well that's a 9pm curfew for me
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Dr.Caligari posted:I’m always confused where the trust of the government starts and stops with SA. The majority here seem to know Trump is a cheat, liar and all around bad guy , but at the same time the idea that he would fake a sickness for whatever reason is unthinkable. trump lies, openly, brazenly, ridiculously nobody would doubt that he'd lie about it what is in doubt is that trump would orchestrate a whole theater piece this competently and believably, getting at least a 100 people to cooperate flawlessly and even going so far as to fake subtle symptoms as believably as he did on camera trump is a dumb and confident liar, not a smart and competent liar Dr.Caligari posted:I’m unclear on what the relevance is to that particular geographic location, but I would image they still have a healthy dose of skepticism of government. she was also wrong, but in a good way, she argued that trump was lying and nobody is bad enough for the hospital for 3 days with covid (she overlooks that trump lied about when he got sick)
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Scarodactyl posted:Someone getting chemo for bone marrow cancer getting reinfected and dying sucks but is not much of a concern from an epidemiological perspective. I agree, the canary dropped dead of complications from chemo and there is no reason for anyone to be worried whatsoever at all and we should all just march right back into the mine.
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Trump is now very much on board with herd immunity. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-embraces-herd-immunity-in-wake-of-his-recovery-from-covid-19-200322727.html E- 99% O2 saturation 
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LLSix posted:That is not what herd immunity means. lol welcome to 2020 politics
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I just did a 5 minute search on herd immunity without vaccines and I found nothing. That's a pretty good talking point, if true, if someone brings that bullshit up. The Wikipedia page on Herd immunity notes that it didn’t stop diseases until widespread vaccination. This isn’t and never has been a debatable fact. Even a cursory study of any related topic will make it painfully obvious. I am aware that doesn’t stop the entirely monstrous Republican Party from pretending there’s any room for uncertainty, but their disregard for reality and life is well established. pro starcraft loser posted:Trump is now very much on board with herd immunity.
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Mithaldu posted:Xenocides roughly said it, but to be more clear: To add onto this, Trump was raised to view illness as a personal failing by his narcissistic father and has always bragged about never getting sick and being a perfect specimen of health, just like his father did. He's also been denying the existence of the virus, rejecting safety standards and not getting tested at all, for the most part. Getting covid made him look like one of the stupidest people to ever live and since he got it his poll numbers have plummeted. There is absolutely no way getting covid factored into his plans. The whole triumphant return to the white house, and all the bullshit you hear from his doctors, is meant to make it seem like he was basically never sick and is oh so strong and virile. He even though about ripping off his short to reveal a superman logo or some poo poo Play fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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Cant have fukin herd immunity when you dont become immune to it.
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Plastik posted:I agree, the canary dropped dead of complications from chemo and there is no reason for anyone to be worried whatsoever at all and we should all just march right back into the mine. It's not that bro, it's that people try to keep some resemblance of sanity by not overplaying or underplaying individual outcomes. Take care of your mental health as well. We don't know poo poo yet. That's the current state of things.
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Plastik posted:I agree, the canary dropped dead of complications from chemo and there is no reason for anyone to be worried whatsoever at all and we should all just march right back into the mine.
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Did this already break here: https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1316497247174037504
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Plastik posted:I agree, the canary dropped dead of complications from chemo and there is no reason for anyone to be worried whatsoever at all and we should all just march right back into the mine. Sometimes a dead canary just died. An 82-year-old, massively immunocompromised person being the first confirmed death from reinfection out of 38 million confirmed infections maybe shouldn't be your cue to dig out the Exit Bag.
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Philthy posted:Cant have fukin herd immunity when you dont become immune to it. Herd immunity is absolute loving nonsense, although as a poster above mentioned cases of repeated infection actually seem to be quite rare. Whether that is due to the fact the virus still hasn't spread all that widely in terms of total population or not, I'm not sure. But it actually is starting to seem like if you are infected by the virus it is extremely unlikely you will get infected again, and I don't think there are any cases of people getting infected with the same strain they had before. The small number of people who have been infected twice all had different strains both times. I hadn't known that.
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GolfHole posted:its wives / families explosivo posted:Edit: Yep. They had 11,500 tickets for sale for these games. That's a lot of wives/family!
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Plastik posted:I agree, the canary dropped dead of complications from chemo and there is no reason for anyone to be worried whatsoever at all and we should all just march right back into the mine. People getting chemo will very routinely not have much of an immune system to speak of. Doubly so for chemo targeted towards bone marrow cancer (where the bulk of your immune system is manufactured). If you ever have the misfortune of needing chemo then you will find out that you'll be taking prophylactic antibiotics, antifungals AND antivirals during treatment. The thrush that lurks in every goons folds of fat is disgusting when you're healthy, when your immune response is nonexistent it will find new and exciting places to live like your blood and internal organs. This kills the human. Someone on chemo dropping dead from covid would not be surprising at all. They can and will drop dead for far more mundane causes if not managed properly.
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explosivo posted:That's a lot of wives/family! oh my god jc, all moms
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Play posted:Herd immunity is absolute loving nonsense https://unherd.com/2020/10/matt-hancock-is-wrong-about-herd-immunity/?=frlh quote:Dr Sunetra Gupta is a professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modelling of infectious diseases It's nonsense if you start, as seems to be increasingly the case, claiming that herd immunity means total eradication of the disease. Which it doesn't. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I shouldn't have to say while posting in the covid thread that I am referring to herd immunity in the current relevant context that we are discussing. Also I read that entire article (not that it had all that much to do with my point) and I still can't quite understand how what that man said was incorrect. He said that “Herd immunity is a flawed goal – even if we could get to it, which we can’t" which is 100% correct. I guess she took issue with the way he reached his conclusion and wanted to show her understanding about the differences between diseases, but it honestly seems like scientific pedantry in response to actual policy
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BYU-Idaho says students may be trying to get COVID-19 so they can sell their plasma https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/10/13/byu-idaho-says-students/
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