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Fahrvergnügen 34 25.95%
Lederhosen 41 31.30%
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Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Yeah we are now stuck in a nightmare loop of these tech monopolists just pandering to whichever party looks to be winning in an attempt to preserve their power. It will just swing back and forth depending on who wins. I'm sure that Zuckerberg is like six weeks away from banning all photos of guns or something equally as stupid.

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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Pryor on Fire posted:

Yeah we are now stuck in a nightmare loop of these tech monopolists just pandering to whichever party looks to be winning in an attempt to preserve their power. It will just swing back and forth depending on who wins. I'm sure that Zuckerberg is like six weeks away from banning all photos of guns or something equally as stupid.

:pray:

That would be the funniest thing and I hope it happens. It will be rolled back after 2 weeks, but the damage will be done

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

RFC2324 posted:

:pray:

That would be the funniest thing and I hope it happens. It will be rolled back after 2 weeks, but the damage will be done

I say this as someone who has been shooting for decades and is in multiple FB gun groups: the sheer amount of hilarious butthurt this would cause for terrible people would keep me smiling and warm for the winter, so I hope it happens.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Pryor on Fire posted:

Yeah we are now stuck in a nightmare loop of these tech monopolists just pandering to whichever party looks to be winning in an attempt to preserve their power. It will just swing back and forth depending on who wins. I'm sure that Zuckerberg is like six weeks away from banning all photos of guns or something equally as stupid.

It's obvious that their only political stance is whatever will fend off the demands for anti-monopoly rulings in the courts and tech regulation in the legislature. Nothing else matters to FAANG.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

stealie72 posted:

I say this as someone who has been shooting for decades and is in multiple FB gun groups: the sheer amount of hilarious butthurt this would cause for terrible people would keep me smiling and warm for the winter, so I hope it happens.

Unless I'm mistaken, but didn't Facebook ban the sale of guns on their marketplace and those same people flipped the gently caress out?

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

A Bad Poster posted:

Unless I'm mistaken, but didn't Facebook ban the sale of guns on their marketplace and those same people flipped the gently caress out?
Yup. And these loving idiots still can't stop posting things that have dollar signs and money amounts in them, which is how Facebook filters that.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
As a gun owner at this point if we went full Australia on firearms, loving great. gently caress these whack job idiots ruining it for everyone and insisting that mass shooting after mass shooting is actually ok and good because "Liberty Tree" or whatever

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
recovery is going well

https://twitter.com/BenRabidoux/status/1316735123627429889?s=19

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

maffew buildings posted:

As a gun owner at this point if we went full Australia on firearms, loving great. gently caress these whack job idiots ruining it for everyone and insisting that mass shooting after mass shooting is actually ok and good because "Liberty Tree" or whatever

Yeah nah not gonna support taking the guns away from everybody except cops and cop-friends. What a hilarious joke.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/JakeAnbinder/status/1316793047779340289?s=20

Give me all the trains, Joe

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
means test the rail

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
The rule of 2020 is that it can always get dumber.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1316789515592269827?s=19

The NYPost is making follow-up articles, with screenshots of information, and they're refusing to give any of the actual information out for verification. There's also supposedly a Hunter Biden sex tape.

NOTHING HERE IS SUSPICIOUS AT ALL

(his icloud likely got hacked)

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

stealie72 posted:

Yup. And these loving idiots still can't stop posting things that have dollar signs and money amounts in them, which is how Facebook filters that.

A friend on Facebook added me to a gun selling group which I promptly reported.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


Good Luck laying any sort of useful Rail there bud. Atlanta has been trying to extend marta service out to Alpharetta, Johns Creek, and Marietta for the last decade or so, and they keep voting it down, because "the wrong sort will come to their city".

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Amtrak is expensive though so maybe that’ll help with that argument. (It will not help with that argument)

This was all already tried and failed under Obama. Biden loves trains so maybe he’d put more effort into it but it’s still not something to be optimistic about.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

stealie72 posted:

Yup. And these loving idiots still can't stop posting things that have dollar signs and money amounts in them, which is how Facebook filters that.

Maybe they should adopt the hooker escort model. Good lord those women love roses

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

stealie72 posted:

Yup. And these loving idiots still can't stop posting things that have dollar signs and money amounts in them, which is how Facebook filters that.

Why not just go to one of the several dozen gun selling websites?

Probably just to find something to be mad about if I had to guess.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Yeah Nationwide rail proposals were talked up like crazy in 2008 and literally nothing happened

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

stealie72 posted:

Yup. And these loving idiots still can't stop posting things that have dollar signs and money amounts in them, which is how Facebook filters that.

300 roses for my custom made AR Receiver. Generous gun enthusiast only, explicit texts will be ignored.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


That Works posted:

Yeah Nationwide rail proposals were talked up like crazy in 2008 and literally nothing happened

That was because Republican governors spiked taking federal funds to cover the vast majority of rail construction, specifically with Walker and Scott

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I mean I don't see any way they could. Not in this country.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Woofer posted:

Why not just go to one of the several dozen gun selling websites?

Probably just to find something to be mad about if I had to guess.
Because they are lazy and entitled and think private companies should be able to not sell wedding cakes to gay couples but should have to sell guns?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Nick Soapdish posted:

That was because Republican governors spiked taking federal funds to cover the vast majority of rail construction, specifically with Walker and Scott

Sure. What's changed?

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Milo and POTUS posted:

Maybe they should adopt the hooker escort model. Good lord those women love roses

Surely that does not actually do anything legally, right?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



hobbesmaster posted:

Amtrak is expensive though so maybe that’ll help with that argument. (It will not help with that argument)

This was all already tried and failed under Obama. Biden loves trains so maybe he’d put more effort into it but it’s still not something to be optimistic about.

the man rode the train into DC for 30 something years every day, he's a train nut.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



I mean, im not dissing on trains because I rode around Europe and Japan on trains, and well maintained, properly funded rail systems are a loving godsend. We can't have nice things like that in the US though, too much entrenched interest in freight rail taking precedence over passenger rail, and also the whole car/highway obsession of everyday Americans.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

orange juche posted:

the man rode the train into DC for 30 something years every day, he's a train nut.

Honestly one of the few unambiguously good reasons to vote for Biden where you won’t look into how past and think “I’m not sure if he’ll actually do that...”

Maybe he’ll be like Jess Ventura in Minnesota and be willing to cut whatever social programs so long as you build the drat train!

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



A real loving train system with schedules that actually are adhered to and stops in sensible areas where you're walking distance to business parks or points of interest are basically my dream. I'd be able to save 90% of the mileage on my vehicle, and only pull it out for recreational traveling, if the train didn't go where I wanted to go.

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002
GIP: Goons in Pullmans .

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

I was just talking to my wife last night about moving to the Chicago burbs so I could take the train into work every day and not have to lose my mind fighting Southern California traffic.

Count me in the train gang. I am all for mass transit.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

orange juche posted:

I mean, im not dissing on trains because I rode around Europe and Japan on trains, and well maintained, properly funded rail systems are a loving godsend. We can't have nice things like that in the US though, too much entrenched interest in freight rail taking precedence over passenger rail, and also the whole car/highway obsession of everyday Americans.

eh, I believe those are pretty easy to accommodate. The issue is the government would need the political will to imminent domain the poo poo out of a large swath of America to expand the system to be useful(like building ATL<->Chatanooga<->Nashville or hell, Jacksonville <->ATL both routes would significantly cut travel distances and might make train travel in the south no shiitty.), and I do not believe that a government led by Joe Biden has the political will to do anything near that ambitious and would be unpopular with the people who get imminent domained on top of rallying conservatives around "THEYRE NATIONALIZING THE LAND! COMMUNISTS".

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Oct 15, 2020

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

orange juche posted:

I mean, im not dissing on trains because I rode around Europe and Japan on trains, and well maintained, properly funded rail systems are a loving godsend. We can't have nice things like that in the US though, too much entrenched interest in freight rail taking precedence over passenger rail, and also the whole car/highway obsession of everyday Americans.

Let's be real; maintaining a train in Japan is cheaper than in the US because there's less fluids to clean up and damage to restore.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Defenestrategy posted:

eh, I believe those are pretty easy to accommodate. The issue is the government would need the political will to imminent domain the poo poo out of a large swath of America to expand the system to be useful(like building ATL<->Chatanooga<->Nashville or hell, Jacksonville <->ATL both routes would significantly cut travel distances and might make train travel in the south no shiitty.), and I do not believe that a government led by Joe Biden has the political will to do anything near that ambitious and would be unpopular with the people who get imminent domained on top of rallying conservatives around "THEYRE NATIONALIZING THE LAND! COMMUNISTS".

I'm just hoping against every visible fact and past history that the Biden admin will realize quickly that they're going to get that response no matter what they do and go hogwild. It took the Obama/Biden way too many Lucy-and-the-footballs to figure out the game, and so far it looks like Biden thinks that the R's won't do that to him but hopefully with the last administration experience he'll catch on.

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

I will never fly along the east coast again as long as Amtrak is an option.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Defenestrategy posted:

eh, I believe those are pretty easy to accommodate. The issue is the government would need the political will to imminent domain the poo poo out of a large swath of America to expand the system to be useful(like building ATL<->Chatanooga<->Nashville or hell, Jacksonville <->ATL both routes would significantly cut travel distances and might make train travel in the south no shiitty.), and I do not believe that a government led by Joe Biden has the political will to do anything near that ambitious and would be unpopular with the people who get imminent domained on top of rallying conservatives around "THEYRE NATIONALIZING THE LAND! COMMUNISTS".

gently caress I’d settle for rebuilding the JAX - NO line at least. drat thing’s been toast since Katrina.

Orlando’s effort to build commuter rail isn’t faring so well. They have an embryonic system that doesn’t do a good job for commuters heading east / west which is where most of the growth has been this century. But that would mean laying new track which is a non-starter here even if it would be a boon to the communities over the medium to long term. But NIMBYs abound and land isn’t free.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Woofer posted:

I will never fly along the east coast again as long as Amtrak is an option.

Yeah, I imagine outside of the local routes Amtrak gets expensive, but I can get from probably Richmond to Boston for a heckuva lot less effort than driving and price that isn't a deal breaker. If I have to go to downtown Philly, I just take the train now. Its like 60 bucks round trip.

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

Orlando is one of the worst examples of urban sprawl I’ve ever seen and a rail system would be like 15 minutes between stops. That city is laid out so lovely.

Duval County is probably worse though.

SquirrelyPSU posted:

Yeah, I imagine outside of the local routes Amtrak gets expensive, but I can get from probably Richmond to Boston for a heckuva lot less effort than driving and price that isn't a deal breaker. If I have to go to downtown Philly, I just take the train now. Its like 60 bucks round trip.

My business class Amtrak ticket was more expensive than a plane ticket but 1) work paid for it so duh and 2) in the future I will consider the extra expense a comfort tax. It’s the most hassle free method of long distance travel I’ve ever used.

Amtrak is like pre-9/11 airports, if anyone remembers what that was like.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Notahippie posted:

I'm just hoping against every visible fact and past history that the Biden admin will realize quickly that they're going to get that response no matter what they do and go hogwild. It took the Obama/Biden way too many Lucy-and-the-footballs to figure out the game

This implies they figured it out at all.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

That Works posted:

Yeah Nationwide rail proposals were talked up like crazy in 2008 and literally nothing happened

Did anybody figure out a way to make it economically viable or as safe as air travel? Railroad security in most of this country is a shockingly incompetent mishmash of bullshit and "we'll deal with it when it becomes litigious enough to care."

Railroading across the west is practically a nightmare for me.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Woofer posted:

Orlando is one of the worst examples of urban sprawl I’ve ever seen and a rail system would be like 15 minutes between stops. That city is laid out so lovely.

Duval County is probably worse though.


My business class Amtrak ticket was more expensive than a plane ticket but 1) work paid for it so duh and 2) in the future I will consider the extra expense a comfort tax. It’s the most hassle free method of long distance travel I’ve ever used.

Amtrak is like pre-9/11 airports, if anyone remembers what that was like.

That was my exact feeling the first time I took a train from DC to Philadelphia. It’s great.

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