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TheBacon posted:There is supposedly like a $10k thing to *fix* the gearbox on the 718, which the gt4 shares, and really should do it anyway since it's still absurdly tall even for the track. I think like 90mph in 2nd? But the gt4 and a GT convertible sounds solid to me. I know Porsche said regearing the transmission from the factory was never going to happen, but I'm surprised they didn't just throw in a shorter diff. Edit: Because it's a mid engine car and has an integrated differential 
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Sorry I meant 35 miles each way 70 roundtrip But yes thank you all for the thoughts. Going to seriously look at i) F430 manual and also maybe ii) GT4 and trade in my Mazda3 for a Mercedes E450 convertible Throatwarbler posted:Do you not need some kind of back seat for carrying 2 dogs? How exactly is that going to work with a 2 seater car unless they're chihuahuas or something Both dogs in the 10-20lb range which I'm praying could work in a Huracan because there is a parcel shelf behind the seats, so one on there and one in the footwell
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got off on a technicality posted:Both dogs in the 10-20lb range which I'm praying could work in a Huracan because there is a parcel shelf behind the seats, so one on there and one in the footwell I hate to say it, but if you need to shove 2 dogs into a huracan because you don't have a more suitable car for hauling your dogs, you can't afford a huracan. A huracan is meant to be a third or fourth car and if you try to daily it, you're going to be miserable. Also, you're going to go absolutely broke trying to maintain the thing. Do you have any idea how expensive maintaining a supercar is? Think "Every mile I drive this on the road, it will cost me $2. Every mile I drive this on a track, it will cost me $10." We're talking $300-500 oil changes every single track day. $2000+ sets of tires. $3000+ brake jobs. Engine out service is the rule on a mid engine exotic, not the exception. Those YouTubers who buy a huracan on credit as a second car are A: writing them off as a business expense (and are probably going to get pounded by the IRS) and B: doing their own maintenance in their garages. You already said you're not handy - are you sure you can afford a $10,000+ bill after a track day for engine out service? Could you afford to put it into a wall? In any case, with your budget, I would rather get a really good R8 under warranty than a basket case huracan. I'd be terrified to track it though. KillHour fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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200k will get you a really nice 911 turbo S which you will be able to get both dogs in, and also a nice hatchback or wagon. Commuting in a Lamborghini sounds awful (not that I've ever driven one) and carting 2 dogs around in one sounds even worse. https://finder.porsche.com/us/en_US/911-Turbo-S-220385 knox_harrington fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Have you considered driving a regular car, and then having something else that you'll use exclusively for racing and hot rodding? And by regular car I don't mean a Prius, you can get a turbo Porsche SUV or something
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Recently moved on from my old Prius (great car, uber reliable, just as boring as promised) and decided I needed something a little more fun. My experience largely mirrors other posters but perhaps this will help someone else. Here are what I test drove. All in the 2017-2019 model year range. 1. Chevy Cruze - despite being turbocharged this thing was an absolute dog. Nice interior, lots of bells and whistles for the price. 2. Toyota Corolla - somehow even more boring than my old Prius. Tons of safety features. Surprisingly, this was one of the cheapest vehicles test driven. 3. VW Jetta - Fun car. I don't trust VW reliability. Nice interior. 4. Honda Civic - I drove both the Turbo and NA versions. Incidentally my wife loved the NA and we ended up trading in her old car (another Civic) for one. This was neck and neck with the Mazda 3 I settled on. The 1.5L engine is surprisingly responsive. 5. Mazda 3 - I drove both the 2.0L and 2.5L versions. The 2.5L has a lot more torque, it's a really fun car to drive. My first car was a Ford Probe and it reminds me of it a lot despite being a bigger vehicle. As an FYI - they only come standard with in-house navigation unless you buy a new unit for like $500 to add Android Auto prior to 2019. You can actually "hack" these pretty easy to add Android Auto.
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KillHour posted:I hate to say it, but if you need to shove 2 dogs into a huracan because you don't have a more suitable car for hauling your dogs, you can't afford a huracan. A huracan is meant to be a third or fourth car and if you try to daily it, you're going to be miserable. This is the truth. Daily driving a sports car is something everyone thinks will be awesome, but isn’t. Get two cars.
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Residency Evil posted:This is the truth. Daily driving a sports car is something everyone thinks will be awesome, but isn’t. Get two cars. Depends on the car. I dailied a 944 for years. 911s are very daily-able. Vettes. M cars. R8s. (and I admit that the older I get even when I have the choice sitting in the garage I increasingly just default to the Cayenne/pickup/whatever is holding the practical car spot because it's easy and practical) But dailying a huracan? lol. Even if the money wasn't a factor (in which case you'd need two to deal with service and reliability issues) what a massively lovely experience. They weren't meant for it, so it's fun and unique every once in a while. On a daily basis I'd be so pissed off about that stupid goddamn car that I'd end up not wanting to drive. All the while ruining what could have been kept as a fun experience for weekends and a day or two to work every now and then. Motronic fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Motronic posted:Depends on the car. I dailied a 944 for years. 911s are very daily-able. Vettes. M cars. R8s. It also depends on what you can tolerate/want to put up with. I drove a Cayman (albeit with sports suspension) in downtown Philly for a year and got tired of crashing over lovely roads/potholes driving to get groceries stuck in traffic. I had a Boxster Spyder and got tired of the PITA bucket seats. In both cases, if I was just running errands instead of driving around the backroads, I'd grab the keys to the DD nine times out of ten. Ever since I moved to thinking about a sports car as a fun experience to have several times a week rather than every day, I've liked it more. But yeah, dailying a Huracan sounds like a miserable idea.
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Residency Evil posted:It also depends on what you can tolerate/want to put up with. I drove a Cayman (albeit with sports suspension) in downtown Philly for a year and got tired of crashing over lovely roads/potholes driving to get groceries stuck in traffic. I mean, this is a really good point too. You could be fine dealing with a lot of sport car "things" but if you're going down partial cobblestone roads on a daily basis - yeah, it's just not gonna work for anyone. (note: the cobble/partial cobbles in philly are generally in BETTER shape than the roads RE is probably talking about)
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Proposed Budget: 30-45k, maybe stretch a bit if it opens up something amazing. New or Used: Prefer new due to the salty hellhole that is the north east US. Body Style: nothing set in stone, but likely SUV, maybe midsize pickup? How will you be using the car?: Errand car around town, regular weekend trips (5hr drive) to ski / mountain bike. Getting in to family camps, exploring the woods / car camping. No commuting. Currently traveling with my wife + 1 kid (possibly 1 more in the next 3 years) + 1 50lb dog and sometimes a cat. What aspects are most important to you? Reliability and the ability to carry all our gear as our family grows. Currently we drive a 17 outback and it's a great car. Paid off, reliable, pretty capable off road, and a lot of life left. Problem is that I don't see it really having enough space if we add another kid to the family. It fills up quick with bikes, a thule rack, and luggage. I want to be able to do some light offroading to get to cabins, campsites, and trail heads in the ME/NH/VT area. I live just outside of Boston. Not going to be doing any rock crawling but a new ride would at least match the outback offroad. I'm guessing the answer is going to be a 4runner or maybe a midsized pickup with a cap? Worry about having a spot for the dog and cat though if there are 2 kids in the backseat. F150 feels big to me and I think I'll have a hard time getting it into my apartments parking spot and would be a hassle around where I live. But the cabin is really spacious. The Kia Telluride looks like a solid option and I've gotta be honest with myself that I don't really need that much offroad capability and that comfort for the 5 hour stretches is probably more important. My original plan was to get a 4 door bronco in a couple of years after they work out the kinks and have a lot of fun before feeling like it wasn't practical for us anymore. But the more I look at 4runners or midsize pickups, the more I think it'd be fine to pull the trigger on one of those instead.
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Nitrox posted:Have you considered driving a regular car, and then having something else that you'll use exclusively for racing and hot rodding? And by regular car I don't mean a Prius, you can get a turbo Porsche SUV or something  e: thanks again everyone for all your responses. Did you know many Huracans were ordered without cruise control and according to one dealer it can’t be retrofitted lol got off on a technicality fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Oct 12, 2020 |
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Can anyone comment on the new VW Golf versus a T-Roc? Wife sorta prefers the T-Roc but she'll only ever be a passenger. She likes being up high I guess. I prefer the Golf just because it feels smaller and I like small cars. But in reality the T-Roc is a few cm shorter than a Golf so I can't win that argument. VW seems to be having supply issues here in España so the choices for new cars are very slim. To get all the features we want will mean waiting until well into the new year. Buuut, there are plenty of lightly used T-Rocs with less than 10k kms (from the dealer so a decent warranty). My hesitation is that most of the T-Roc on offer are automatic and have "4motion". I would prefer a manual but maybe four wheel drive is nice to have? This is a car for trips, not city driving, and we often find ourselves on tiny unpaved single-lane mountain roads. So maybe four wheel drive would be neat for that? But in an automatic? I've never driven an auto on roads like that. They have manuals on offer for T-Roc but they only seem to have them on the model with the smallest engine which I've been told is really only good for city driving. Sorry for my ramble.
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Deteriorata posted:I would assume there was a police report filed of the accident, but no insurance claim. The dealership may have fixed it themselves and just ate the cost. Oh and there was no police report because the guy I hit looked at his trailer and the non-working lights, shrugged, and said "We cool?" and I said "Yeah, we're cool" and that was that. That also happened to me when an SUV rear-ended me and their brush guard prevented any damage to their vehicle while my rear bumper and trunk lid got hosed. That one got a police report.
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got off on a technicality posted:My bad for not being clear - I’m keeping my Mazda3 AWD hatch for all my practical automotive needs That should reinforce how much a Huracan was NOT made to cruise around in.
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I posted in this thread back in the before times, in about January. At the time, I was looking at wagons/larger hatchbacks, and possibly crossovers. As they have for most people, things have changed quite a bit for me. I have a new (remote) job and will be most likely moving out of state in the next year. The move, combined with the increased prevalence of road trips in the post-pandemic world, has shifted my needs a bit towards something larger. The Rav4 Prime was interesting to me, and they're available in my area (SF Bay Area), but the dealers I've talked to were asking almost $60k, which is ridiculous. So I'm seriously thinking of going with a Mazda CX-5, which seems to suit all of my needs without breaking the bank. I've also started looking at the Honda Ridgeline. A pickup is one of the vehicles I've always wanted to own, but the Ridgeline is really the only one that I could see being practical for me. And this brings me to my actual question: does anyone know how tall the bed is on one of these? I've looked all over the internet, and haven't been able to find anything authoritative. To put it another way, how tall an item could I put in the bed and still have it covered by a lockable bed cover/tonneau? Most of the dimensions I've found seem to give only the length/width of the bed, or the depth of the lockable in-bed trunk, but that's not what I'm looking for. Bit of a longshot, but does anyone have this info?
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It varies depending on the cover: https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/height-under-various-tonneau-covers.203177/ Edit: and depending on the design it might block trunk access a little
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powderific posted:It varies depending on the cover: https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/height-under-various-tonneau-covers.203177/ That's super helpful, thanks!
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Is there a big difference in terms of safety features like lane assist and bling spot monitoring between different years? Like will a 2017 model have substantially worse tech on that front than 2021 models?
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joepinetree posted:Is there a big difference in terms of safety features like lane assist and bling spot monitoring between different years? Like will a 2017 model have substantially worse tech on that front than 2021 models? If they're different generations, most likely. Same generation is less likely unless there was a big refresh.
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Hello friends, I need to purchase a vehicle equal to or greater than 6000 GVWR so I have a tax write off for the year (section 179). I’m starting a family and we plan on getting another dog as well so I feel like an suv would fulfill this nicely. I’m looking at Tesla’s but the goon braintrust has never let me down. Are they “there” yet or are the traditional luxury suvs a better buy at this point? I’ve only ever owned a Ford escort and Hyundai elantra in my life so this is all new to me. Price really isn’t an object because it’s a write off but I probably don’t want or need to spend more than 100k.
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beergod posted:Price really isn’t an object because it’s a write off but I probably don’t want or need to spend more than 100k. Let's start with this, because it's important: do you know how write offs work? Like, you're aware that price absolutely IS an object because you're not getting 100% (or even close to 50%) of this money back off of your taxes? Right? So what's the actual budget?
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Motronic posted:Let's start with this, because it's important: do you know how write offs work? Like, you're aware that price absolutely IS an object because you're not getting 100% (or even close to 50%) of this money back off of your taxes? Right? If they've got 100k to burn, it's safe to assume they're in a top tax bracket, so... 37-ish% including state taxes. I'll likely be trading/selling my truck and buying another this year for exactly this reason. It's loving dumb, but my current truck saved me nearly $20,000 in taxes over the last 5 years. It cost $50,000 to purchase, and the trade-in is $29,500 (private party is around $32k). It's literally cost me the combined cost of insurance, fuel, and maintenance to own my truck for 5 years. Crazypants, and not necessarily a comparable situation to most folks here in the US, but it really does work out that way if you have the income to burn down. If you're an Amway rep making $40k/year... not so much.
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I've got a 2013 BMW 328i with 93k miles on it. I love it to death and it's been pretty much stone reliable, but I want something that I can use to haul poo poo, take my kids car camping, outdoor activities, etc, and I also want something less expensive to own than an aging BMW. I've got a Miata for when I want to enjoy driving, so I don't give a gently caress about that. I think it's time for a minivan. Proposed Budget: < $30k USD New or Used: Used Body Style: Minivan (but I'm open to considering other options that meet these needs) How will you be using the car?: Transporting kids and kid-related accessories. What aspects are most important to you: Reliability, safety, comfort, non-irritating infotainment, and low TCO. I'm pretty sure any minivan will meet my storage needs, but for what it's worth, I'd prioritize storage over passenger capacity. Rear camera is mandatory, but I assume I can install one aftermarket if needed. I also love the HUD in my BMW and it'd be nice to have one in my next kid-hauler. Also I just got my ham radio license and I'd be interested in installing one in the car. I'm thinking I want a CPO late 4th-gen Honda Odyssey, but I've heard that the infotainment sucks and that the transmissions are unreliable. Should I be looking at other minivans? I've been assuming that Chryslers are unreliable, so I haven't looked at them at all. Is the Kia Sedona worth considering? Looks like I'd save a few grand for a similar-era Sedona. Is a minivan the most practical fit for the goals I'm describing? I also looked into aftermarket head units for the 4th gen Odyssey, because I'd be fine if I could just run CarPlay on the thing (I assume; I've never actually used CarPlay). I found the GROM VLine VL2, but there's weirdly little talk about it online, and I don't know how well it'd integrate with the existing electronics. Lastly, is this the right place for me to ask about financing options? Because I found a CPO 2017 Odyssey that looks like a perfect fit at a dealership about ten minutes away, but they're advertising 6+% APRs, and that seems high to me. I've got 800 credit and a good job, so I'm wondering if I could do better elsewhere.
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Motronic posted:Let's start with this, because it's important: do you know how write offs work? Like, you're aware that price absolutely IS an object because you're not getting 100% (or even close to 50%) of this money back off of your taxes? Right? Sorry your response was sufficiently dickish that I feel compelled to respond. I am asking this thread (and you presumably) on recommendation to buy a car. I posted what I’m looking for and what my budget is. I know how loving taxes and deductions works which is why I’m asking in the first place. Does anyone have an actual recommendation?
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Check local credit unions- that’s what I did when I got my car. Good APR and they have a car purchasing service which did all the negotiating with the dealership
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beergod posted:Sorry your response was sufficiently dickish that I feel compelled to respond. I am asking this thread (and you presumably) on recommendation to buy a car. I posted what I’m looking for and what my budget is. I know how loving taxes and deductions works which is why I’m asking in the first place. If your understanding is the same as sharkytm, neither of you understand the appropriate tax treatment when you've sold a depreciated asset (depreciation recapture). So congrats on not getting audited yet?
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You can't go wrong with either of the Ford or GM big SUV's right now. The new Tahoe is very nice. I'm partial to Ford products so I'd be in a new Lincoln Navigator if I had 100K to blow on an SUV. The Limited or Platinum trim on the Ford Expedition is like a Navigator-lite if the Lincoln is too much for you. The Escalade is there if that floats your boat. It's a bit too much for me though. The new Tahoe just came out though, don't expect any sort of deal, especially on the High Country (top trim) models. I mean pretty much any of the big SUV's out there will work. Which do you fancy?
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Steely Dad posted:I've got a 2013 BMW 328i with 93k miles on it. I love it to death and it's been pretty much stone reliable, but I want something that I can use to haul poo poo, take my kids car camping, outdoor activities, etc, and I also want something less expensive to own than an aging BMW. I've got a Miata for when I want to enjoy driving, so I don't give a gently caress about that. I think it's time for a minivan. We've got a 2013 Odyssey with about 100k miles on it. I've heard nothing regarding transmission problems, we've certainly had none. Overall it's been a great car. 6% APR is bad. If it's got less than 100,000 miles our credit union is offering 3% loans. Yours probably is similar.
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if you want a big SUV for mostly on-road work buy a Kia Telluride and never look back. If you need to tow, get a big GM BoF SUV. If you want to be fancy in a Grosse Pointe sort of way, get a Navigator.
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beergod posted:Sorry your response was sufficiently dickish that I feel compelled to respond. I am asking this thread (and you presumably) on recommendation to buy a car. I posted what I’m looking for and what my budget is. I know how loving taxes and deductions works which is why I’m asking in the first place. Anything you want since you only said 6,000 GVWR and under 100k. And please realize this is a financialthread for buying cars, so if you give financial details you should expect people to talk about them. This isn't ask jeeves. Read the OP and fill out the template instead of sounding so entitled. But here's an actual recommendation that meets your requirements, though some are pushing the "budget" code:Loan Dusty Road fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Oct 16, 2020 |
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Steely Dad posted:so I'm wondering if I could do better elsewhere. 30k gets you a used 5th gen odyssey (2018+) not a 4th gen.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:if you want a big SUV for mostly on-road work buy a Kia Telluride and never look back. If you need to tow, get a big GM BoF SUV. If you want to be fancy in a Grosse Pointe sort of way, get a Navigator. I did a quick google and I don;t think the Telluride is over 6k GVWR. Kind of weird, I always thought the tax thing required some kind of really huge vehicle like a 1 ton truck or Hummer H2 or something, but apparently pretty much everything counts as some kind of farm equipment now.
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ThirstyBuck posted:30k gets you a used 5th gen odyssey (2018+) not a 4th gen. True, but $30k is the top end of my budget, and I’d happily pocket the $7k-ish a 4th gen would save me.
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Steely Dad posted:I've got a 2013 BMW 328i with 93k miles on it. I love it to death and it's been pretty much stone reliable, but I want something that I can use to haul poo poo, take my kids car camping, outdoor activities, etc, and I also want something less expensive to own than an aging BMW. I've got a Miata for when I want to enjoy driving, so I don't give a gently caress about that. I think it's time for a minivan.
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Steely Dad posted:True, but $30k is the top end of my budget, and I’d happily pocket the $7k-ish a 4th gen would save me. Fair enough, I was just going off of the numbers you had posted. Make sure you drive both to see if it is worth saving the cash, there were a lot of safety, transmission, and infotainment changes that were made from one to the other.
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gvibes posted:We went from a 4th gen odyssey to current gen pacifica. I like the Pacifica a lot. The stow and go seats are super easy and convenient. Interior felt a little nicer than the Odyseey too. Though again, this wasn't the current gen odyssey. I think head-to-head the Odyssey is a little better, though Stow n Go is really good and the Pacifica drives very nicely and I think looks fairly good. You can get a lot more Pacifica for your money that's a lot newer, more features, etc. However, owning a Chrysler product long term is going to cost more in maintenance and repair in the long run. As long as the OP's comfortable with that, I like the Pacifica as an alternative. The Sedona is in a similar vein - not as reliable long term, but you can get a lot more up front. I think the feature set and drive are quite good.
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Deteriorata posted:6% APR is bad. If it's got less than 100,000 miles our credit union is offering 3% loans. Yours probably is similar. 6% should be loving highway robbery for someone with a three-digit credit score that doesn't start with a "5" or less.
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Motronic posted:If your understanding is the same as sharkytm, neither of you understand the appropriate tax treatment when you've sold a depreciated asset (depreciation recapture). So congrats on not getting audited yet? Son of a bitch, they changed the rules in 2018 (TCJA), so I can't defer the gain to a lovely year. My CPA does all my taxes, and it was on their recommendation that I bought the truck. We'll see what they say when I talk to them about trading this one in. You used to be able to roll the gain over to a year with lower profit, and thus lower tax bracket. Then again, I may be able to drop my profit down enough to drop a couple of brackets this year. I'm not the expert, that's for sure.
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sharkytm posted:Son of a bitch, they changed the rules in 2018 (TCJA), so I can't defer the gain to a lovely year. My CPA does all my taxes, and it was on their recommendation that I bought the truck. We'll see what they say when I talk to them about trading this one in. You used to be able to roll the gain over to a year with lower profit, and thus lower tax bracket. Then again, I may be able to drop my profit down enough to drop a couple of brackets this year. I'm not the expert, that's for sure. lol does that change your mind about President Trump
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