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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

It's still what most routers seem to default to, so I wonder how many other people the rona map is being blocked for.

Still considering writing to the Express about how the government has put vital services on a foreign server that hosts the cyber filth, not that this would ever get them to run an anti-government article.

I think I can say with a *huge* amount of confidence that the CPE in >90% of households doesn't do that sort of blocklisting out of the box, and certainly the majority of those don't even have that capability without some serious fettling.

It's possible that some off-the-shelf bridge routers still do it, but it's a really 2001 paradigm for security; even really poo poo security appliances now are at least DNS-aware even if they're not session-aware.

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blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Guavanaut posted:

It's still what most routers seem to default to, so I wonder how many other people the rona map is being blocked for.

What? Most routers absolutely don't block you from connecting to any external IPs by default.

It's something you've explicitly set on your router or computer. Maybe not intentionally, but certainly by installing or configuring something.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I seem to remember Guava having some sort of aftermarket router setup so yeah that might be more on you :v:

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/Mr_Considerate/status/1317088893997637634?s=19

Nigel Farage has reached the Jeff Jarrett Global Force Gold stage of career decline.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Is the Australian model where we drink piss weak lager, are more openly racist, and stick all the immigrants on a prison island?

^^^^^

Surprised he isn't punting nootropics and water filters as well.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

blunt posted:

What? Most routers absolutely don't block you from connecting to any external IPs by default.

It's something you've explicitly set on your router or computer. Maybe not intentionally, but certainly by installing or configuring something.
I mean if you've got a router/firewall that claims to do blacklisting, or a Pi-hole or something like that on your network, it will at some level consult lists of "these are the bad IPs", although I would've thought there'd be some kind of domain lookup on top of that for good/bad domains. Maybe it's decided that the government's covid response is that bad.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Guavanaut posted:

I mean if you've got a router/firewall that claims to do blacklisting, or a Pi-hole or something like that on your network, it will at some level consult lists of "these are the bad IPs", although I would've thought there'd be some kind of domain lookup on top of that for good/bad domains. Maybe it's decided that the government's covid response is that bad.

You're conflating routers and firewalls friend 🙂

So have you added a pi-hole to your network, or configured a blacklist? Because I'd agree that that's almost certainly the cause, but that's something you've explicitly opted into and like Twisto said is largely pointless in 2020. Definitely not something that 90% of routers in the country are doing and I find it incredibly unlikely that any non-computer touchers are having any issues accessing the covid map (kinda ironic, Huh?).

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
Australia has its own fossil fuel industry, is one of the best places in the world for solar energy and has mineral wealth reserves in the form of gold. But I mean I guess we could plant wind farms and become the DeBeers of blue john.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/Mr_Considerate/status/1317088893997637634?s=19

Nigel Farage has reached the Jeff Jarrett Global Force Gold stage of career decline.

Buy gold because the country is so unstable banks can't be trusted! I know because I destabilised it!

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1317067231763795968?s=19

This is interesting, Starmer is actively threatening people who don't follow his rules.

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish

Gonzo McFee posted:

This is interesting, Starmer is actively threatening people who don't follow his rules.

Frankly I'm just shocked to find there's *anything* he opposes

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Keir starmer loves being a cop, apparently? Wild I know.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

blunt posted:

You're conflating routers and firewalls friend 🙂

So have you added a pi-hole to your network, or configured a blacklist? Because I'd agree that that's almost certainly the cause, but that's something you've explicitly opted into and like Twisto said is largely pointless in 2020. Definitely not something that 90% of routers in the country are doing and I find it incredibly unlikely that any non-computer touchers are having any issues accessing the covid map (kinda ironic, Huh?).
The firewall is part of the physical router in this case (as I'd suspect it is for most residential networks that have any kind of security or (non-isp) parental controls). I don't have a pi-hole but my router's firewall keeps a checklist of suspicious/malvertising IPs in addition to DNSBL, and when one is accessed does an additional reputation check for what's being accessed at that IP, and the covid map is (was) failing that.

It's working fine now, but it's amusing that other known-good sites on the same server appear to have been working fine but the government covid one apparently suffered a combination of both poor reputation and a flagged server.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Glad he's having more of an opposition against his MPs than the Tories. For a moment I thought all hope at a socialist government has been lost in case it threatens the wellbeing of the economy and someone from the Food Standards Agency drops a piano on him, but hell yes Keir is tuss enough.

jabby posted:

e:
https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1317048456221949952
For any Spitting Image producers that might be watching, this is that thing called 'satire'.

:perfect:


e: Something I've been wondering about - as the North is a plague pit whilst the South seems to have dodged it, will this mean in a few months it will be flipped round and the North will be mostly immune whilst people in the South will be having a delayed wave?

justcola fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Oct 16, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

justcola posted:

hell yes Keir is Liz Truss enough.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I don't know, we haven't established that he can used computer.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
The full story on the BBC site made me so loving angry.

quote:

The PM said: "Given that they (the EU) have refused to negotiate seriously for much of the last few months, I have concluded we should get ready for 1 January with arrangements more like Australia's based on simple principles of global free trade.

"So now is the time for our businesses to get ready, and for hauliers to get ready, and for travellers to get ready.

"For whatever reason it is clear from the summit that after 45 years of membership they are not willing - unless there is some fundamental change of approach - to offer this country the same terms as Canada.

"And so with high hearts and complete confidence we will prepare to embrace the alternative."
(My emphasis.)

It's just straight-up, arrogant, insulting lies, in some pathetic attempt to claim "we don't really want No Deal, but if the nasty EU doesn't give us everything we want, we'll have no choice (tee hee)" to cover that it was plainly their intent all along.

I hate this disingenuous, overprivileged piece of poo poo as much as I hated Thatcher - and things are only going to get worse from now, so there's a good chance he'll take the top spot soon enough.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


He really is spending more time fighting his own party than the Tories.

That must be what "real opposition" looks like.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1317067231763795968?s=19

This is interesting, Starmer is actively threatening people who don't follow his rules.

Five written warnings and you will receive a citation etc.

It'd actually be interesting if he tried to throw someone like Corbyn, or Diane Abbott, out of the party because they legitimately might have enough local pull to take the seat off Labour. Especially if Momentum threw in with them. Breakaway socialist party anyone?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


goddamnedtwisto posted:

I think you're getting it the wrong way round. He passionately cares about the rule of law, it's probably the nearest he has to a moral centre, he's just done the Blairite Shuffle enough that he believes it's a sophisticated and nuanced understanding to think that undercover operations are an absolute requirement to maintain the rule of law, and so he wants all aspects of them to be covered by said law.

It's a terrible and lazy comparison, but nothing that the Nazis got up to in Germany was illegal under German law; it's this sort of wilful blindness to the moral aspect of the law that allows things like that to happen. The men who drafted the Nuremburg Laws were *definitely* thinking to themselves "Well this is preferable to the SA just running around killing people".

"rule of law" means everyone is subject to the law equally

this bill is explicitely about getting rid of that

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Farage finance chat:

How even the most brain-dead brexit gammon could put trust in Farage after the way he stitched them up over that march last year (which the marchers had to pay £50 to be on) and withdrawing brexit party candidates in the GE after many of them had paid £500 of their own money to be candidates, I do not know.

Sta(lin)rmer 1-line whip chat:

If Jam Grandad had even hinted at such a thing, it would have been Stalin Does Labour all over the press.

grr...

Impending doom chat:

Went to Waitrose and stocked up another 8 litres of bottled water for the impending apocalypse (because the water I stashed in 2018 is expiring in January) and Waitrose only 3 mins walk from home and my mum gave me a Waitrose voucher. 4 x 2l bottles of still water 'Essential' brand = £1.60


need my 72h offline detox as soon as this 'puter has finished doing its backups!

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Isomermaid posted:

Frankly I'm just shocked to find there's *anything* he opposes

starmer is the bulwark against left wing social change, he does clearly care about that

jabby posted:

Five written warnings and you will receive a citation etc.

It'd actually be interesting if he tried to throw someone like Corbyn, or Diane Abbott, out of the party because they legitimately might have enough local pull to take the seat off Labour. Especially if Momentum threw in with them. Breakaway socialist party anyone?

a new party is basically the only hope for UK electoralism in the short term but its not exactly a great chance

corbyn purging the party was legit our only chance of getting anything done this decade and he did/could do gently caress all

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Communist Thoughts posted:

starmer is the bulwark against left wing social change, he does clearly care about that


a new party is basically the only hope for UK electoralism in the short term but its not exactly a great chance

corbyn purging the party was legit our only chance of getting anything done this decade and he did/could do gently caress all

Corbyn's aversion to conflict was really the character flaw that doomed the project. The Left can't do "kinder, gentler politics" and it shouldn't try.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I wonder how things would have worked out differently if it was McDonnell's turn to stand.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

I was hoping this year to get a lot more involved locally and politically, though lockdown made that difficult and doing it online is like drying to drown a fish, though I am eager for a new left wing party to arrive and something I can put my energy into. Yadda yadda People's front of Judea, but the Labour 'brand' has been poisoned between Starmer or Corbyn (whatever side you sit) and now the unions are starting to pull their support, I'm a little surprised that I haven't heard anything about starting a new party about - maybe the people I follow aren't that way inclined and there's been more energy funneled into Black Lives Matter and so on - but it's hard to be optimistic when there's not much to be optimistic about.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

need my 72h offline detox as soon as this 'puter has finished doing its backups!

Enjoy your detox! It's a lovely time of year and a nice time to be out and about. I think I might rearrange the furniture in my house a bit just so it feels a little less familiar, but whatever you're doing beyond buying water, hope its good. :)

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

jabby posted:

Corbyn's aversion to conflict was really the character flaw that doomed the project. The Left can't do "kinder, gentler politics" and it shouldn't try.

Yeah, "kinder, gentler" and "so much for the tolerant" are more like liberal things than left things, I would say.

As the wise man almost said, it's ok to be angry about bad things.

RunningOnEmpty
Nov 1, 2005
Because I work hard for the money...bitch.
just read on the bbc.
Brexit: Trade talks with the EU are 'over', says No 10.
so on the 0 to hyper boned scale, how boned are we?

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

jabby posted:

Five written warnings and you will receive a citation etc.

It'd actually be interesting if he tried to throw someone like Corbyn, or Diane Abbott, out of the party because they legitimately might have enough local pull to take the seat off Labour. Especially if Momentum threw in with them. Breakaway socialist party anyone?

I kind of feel like Clive Lewis is going to join the Green Party before to long based on his tweets.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/Mr_Considerate/status/1317088893997637634?s=19

Nigel Farage has reached the Jeff Jarrett Global Force Gold stage of career decline.

The Glenn Beck 'quick buy these coins that will instantly lose 30% of their value that will need a mad max situation to regain it back again' grift.

Not getting those German passports must have hurt him badly.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

RunningOnEmpty posted:

just read on the bbc.
Brexit: Trade talks with the EU are 'over', says No 10.
so on the 0 to hyper boned scale, how boned are we?

Always have been

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

OwlFancier posted:

I don't know, we haven't established that he can used computer.

you've got your Lizs confused. Kendall can use a computer, Truss thinks cheese imports are a disgrace

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
sounds like brexit means brexit lads

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

you've got your Lizs confused. Kendall can use a computer, Truss thinks cheese imports are a disgrace
Truss scared all the flying computers away with dogs.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

bump_fn posted:

sounds like brexit means brexit lads

A strong and stable, British, oven-ready, red-white-and-blue, just-get-it-done, NHS-funding, hard, no-surrender, :britain: Breakfast Brexshit?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

RunningOnEmpty posted:

just read on the bbc.
Brexit: Trade talks with the EU are 'over', says No 10.
so on the 0 to hyper boned scale, how boned are we?

There's a bit in World War Z (the book not poo poo film) where groups flee into the Alaskan mountains from the zombies.
And set up a camping tent community.
At first its all happy merrily hunting together and enjoying the new life of being free and such.
Then when the nature supplies dwindle, and winter approaches, they end up bartering for dead kid neighbour soup.

Brexit will be this, but with more cannibalism.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

jabby posted:

Corbyn's aversion to conflict was really the character flaw that doomed the project. The Left can't do "kinder, gentler politics" and it shouldn't try.

In the interview he did recently for Tribune he at least acknowledges that he should've purged the fuckers, and recognises that the big failure was not doing this quickly and aggressively

so, lessons learnt, useful if/when Labour can oust kier

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Guavanaut posted:

Truss scared all the flying computers away with dogs.

Lynne Truss, on the other hand, wrote a book about language pandas panduage, and I always think people are hating her when they talk about Liz.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

RunningOnEmpty posted:

just read on the bbc.
Brexit: Trade talks with the EU are 'over', says No 10.
so on the 0 to hyper boned scale, how boned are we?

start hoarding beans and rice lol

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Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



bump_fn posted:

sounds like brexit means brexit lads

red, white and oval office

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