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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


a pipe smoking dog posted:

I kind of feel like Clive Lewis is going to join the Green Party before to long based on his tweets.

He'd need to take ~20 SCGers and a chunk of the unions with him for it to be worth anything.

e: 2-3-5 is how football teams lined up before foreigners got involved with their fancy ideas like "passing to each other"

sebzilla fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Oct 16, 2020

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobstar posted:

Lynne Truss, on the other hand, wrote a book about language pandas panduage, and I always think people are hating her when they talk about Liz.
We imported two thirds of our words from Latin and French, this is a disgracier.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

I've looked into it, and the main https://www.gov.uk website server has an IP address 199.232.56.144, in London, registered to the UK government.
The coronavirus.data.gov.uk and coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk has an IP address 13.107.246.10, registered to Microsoft in Unknown, USA.

My firewall was blocking the second IP because it had been previously listed as containing at least one domain related to Hackers, Spyware, Botnets etc.
It also gets flagged by other lists as containing at least one domain related to adult content.

Government put the rona map on Damian Green's dodgy porn server :lmao:

More likely, it's an Azure server? i.e. AWS but Windowsey. Their cloud will no doubt reuse ips so it probably was hosting something dodgy 6 months ago.

Edit: Oh someone already said that, derp

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 16, 2020

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

justcola posted:

Glad he's having more of an opposition against his MPs than the Tories. For a moment I thought all hope at a socialist government has been lost in case it threatens the wellbeing of the economy and someone from the Food Standards Agency drops a piano on him, but hell yes Keir is tuss enough.


:perfect:


e: Something I've been wondering about - as the North is a plague pit whilst the South seems to have dodged it, will this mean in a few months it will be flipped round and the North will be mostly immune whilst people in the South will be having a delayed wave?

If the south is doing better because there's more people with 'work from home' jobs then if those people continue to bunker up not much will change. If it's because, as some scientists think, the north had higher cases when lockdown ended and was never able to recover properly, then yeah it's just a matter of time.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
No deal brexit might completely destroy our economy but at least we can still call them veggie burgers :britain:

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1317089432831447040?s=20

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

sinky posted:

No deal brexit might completely destroy our economy but at least we can still call them veggie burgers :britain:

I'll have you know that once we're out, we'll have blue passports, hangings for poppy-bumming, and any food that doesn't contain meat will be banned except for CURVED bananas

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

sebzilla posted:

He'd need to take ~20 SCGers and a chunk of the unions with him for it to be worth anything.

e: 2-3-5 is how football teams lined up before foreigners got involved with their fancy ideas like "passing to each other"

Scotland isn't foreign (yet).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

sinky posted:

No deal brexit might completely destroy our economy but at least we can still call them veggie burgers :britain:

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1317089432831447040?s=20
Did they get this mardy over chicken burgers?

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



jabby posted:

Corbyn's aversion to conflict was really the character flaw that doomed the project. The Left can't do "kinder, gentler politics" and it shouldn't try.

Yeah, you can't do 'kinder, gentler politics' unless both sides are doing it. You just get monstered.

It's like constantly cooperating in a game of prisoners dilemma, when you know the other person is always going to defect.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

Guavanaut posted:

Did they get this mardy over chicken burgers?

It's meat so it's ok. Fake chicken bad though. And sausages because a tube of pig arseholes is 'culture' somehow.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
there's been insider remarks that Corbyn viewed himself in a Wilsonian mode of toleration of the party right-wing; that is usually celebrated as a success for preventing an SDP emerging a decade earlier than it eventually would (compare, e.g., the PvdA finding itself flanked by its rebels DS70 in, er, 1970)

in the very familiar mode of UKpol always re-fighting the last war there is no chance Corbyn would have defied that wisdom, not when the gaping maw of Brexit was opening under his feet and shaking his own grip on his youth insurgency

a subsequent leader from the left-wing would probably set out to move aggressively; whether such a gambit would work would probably hinge on other factors

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Grey Hunter posted:

But no, he wants chaos, the mop headed inbred twit.
I read an interesting thing about sociopaths the other day, which is that the absolute worst thing to them is boredom. Most of the apparent maleficence around them comes from the convergence of an intense aversion to boredom and an absolute lack of empathy for others.

Something to bear in mind when considering Cummings & Johnson's policy choices. This will never be 'over,' it'll be a never ending cascade of hare-brained schemes so that they can keep their lives exciting.


Lungboy posted:

Abstaining to amend simply doesn't work. The only reason to do it is optics, so you can say "ah but we didn't vote for/against it" when it turns out to be a poo poo idea.
My tweet but

https://twitter.com/rantingauthor/status/1316690557645848576?s=19


The Question IRL posted:

Like it’s certainly what the Tories want as a shield so the next time some dickhead soldier shoots up a bunch of civilians they can just not prosecute them*.
That's probably the justification behind the scenes. It must be fairly expensive for the army to set up a trial, pay two bent lawyers, bribe a judge and select and harangue a jury. If they can just skip that by having an admin send out a 'no we're not prosecuting war criminal F' form letter each time some meathead gets trigger happy with the natives, they can bung them bobs for big ben to bong for brexit instead.


Communist Thoughts posted:

under the new laws they can just get someone in the environment agency to turn up to an allotment and kill the next corbyn
Looking forward to the execution of the traitor Jaremy Crobny for growing yellow cake uranium which was recently (post CHIS) found on his allotment.


Barry Foster posted:

start hoarding beans and rice lol
I haven't got any room up there for rice with all the beans!

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 16, 2020

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
to assess whether a commentator is really outraged about abstain+vote to amend as a strategy, check and see whether they were equally outraged when Corbyn tried it over the immigration bill last year

noting that both Harman (over the austerity bill) and Starmer (over this current bill) can both plead that they are having to oppose something in the Government election manifesto and have 0% chance of making headway, whereas Corbyn did not and whipped to abstain anyway

ronya fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Oct 16, 2020

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

radmonger posted:

That’s the charitable interpretation of the much mocked and misused phrase ‘political capital’. There are tricks you can pull that you really can only pull once every few years at most. Like those penalties where the taker just calmly nails it along the floor in the middle, relying on the goalie to dive out of the way. Once you have done that, you can’t do it again for a while.

Purely in a winning-the-next election sense, I think Starmer hosed up here with the way things have worked out. With the Greens overtaking the Lib Dems, there are more votes more easily available to the left than anywhere else. Just because there is probably some core of the bill he actually believes in doesn’t mean there isn’t plenty of other stuff.
bolded part seems optimistic, unless I've missed a recent huge surge.

quote:

I mean, the clear implications of the code name ‘007’ is that Bond was an elite and special agent. Not the guy in charge of checking the local branch of Greggs was keeping its pasties warm.
fun fact: Greggs deliberately do not keep their pasties warm, for tax reasons.
cold takeaway food is VAT zero rated. hot takeaway food is VAT standard rated. but food which is freshly out the oven and only incidentally hot while it hasn't had time to cool down yet behind the counter sneeze guard is considered legally the same as cold food so zero rated.
Osbourne tried to simplify that so that Greggs and similar operating just-in-time delivery from oven to customer would pay standard rate too, and now he's not an MP anymore.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Cerv posted:

bolded part seems optimistic, unless I've missed a recent huge surge.

fun fact: Greggs deliberately do not keep their pasties warm, for tax reasons.
cold takeaway food is VAT zero rated. hot takeaway food is VAT standard rated. but food which is freshly out the oven and only incidentally hot while it hasn't had time to cool down yet behind the counter sneeze guard is considered legally the same as cold food so zero rated.
Osbourne tried to simplify that so that Greggs and similar operating just-in-time delivery from oven to customer would pay standard rate too, and now he's not an MP anymore.

Yeah the Greens overtook the Lib Dems in one YouGov poll but were still left off of a big 3 chart.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/EveningStandard/status/1317114264520396802?s=20

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Getting blown away for blowing a guy in Johnson's Britain.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

ronya posted:

to assess whether a commentator is really outraged about abstain+vote to amend as a strategy, check and see whether they were equally outraged when Corbyn tried it over the immigration bill last year

noting that both Harman (over the austerity bill) and Starmer (over this current bill) can both plead that they are having to oppose something in the Government election manifesto and have 0% chance of making headway, whereas Corbyn did not and whipped to abstain anyway

Does anybody actually like these "gotchas"? There are a million reasons why you might feel more sympathetic towards Corbyn doing party-management than you would Starmer, even leaving aside the difference between second and third reading.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Can you still gently caress on buses?
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-public-transport-could-be-safer-than-we-thought-12091657

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol 100% watch this until the end

https://twitter.com/OOCBritain/status/1316808246355726339?s=20

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/joejglenton/status/1317028959331155968?s=19

Hell yeah its poppy season gimmie that respect

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Presumably legal in a beer garden though?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


ronya posted:

to assess whether a commentator is really outraged about abstain+vote to amend as a strategy, check and see whether they were equally outraged when Corbyn tried it over the immigration bill last year

Is that really the best you can do after all that time and money on a PPE? Shame

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009

You know the guy with the battering ram tactical entry tool thought it was going to be like something out of the wire and the door would just explode with one hit

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I remember my grandad grumbling about seeing a single poppy on the front of a van instead of the correct paper poppy in the left hand lapel.

"It'll end up like sodding red nose day, no respect."

*presses F to respect the poopy digger*

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

jabby posted:

Does anybody actually like these "gotchas"? There are a million reasons why you might feel more sympathetic towards Corbyn doing party-management than you would Starmer, even leaving aside the difference between second and third reading.

absolutely (hence why I qualified "as a strategy"). This is specific to objections of the nature "voting against is guaranteed to fail anyway and seeking a sympathetic Tory amendment is our only hope -- but nonetheless it's important to take a moral stand to signal the party's total opposition to the Government's position and not legitimize it with compromise" and such.

one can indeed focus on other respects - say, being straightforwardly honest that one trusts a left-wing leader to make judgment calls than a soft-left leader - but in that case it's got nothing to do with the question of parliamentary strategy

ronya fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 16, 2020

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Sorry luv, these beans may kill you. I'll sling them up you when Boris says its safe.
Fancy a pie and pint down the pub?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

how seriously does hte met take public indecency

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

this is a Professional Click

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

happyhippy posted:

Sorry luv, these beans may kill you. I'll sling them up you when Boris says its safe.
Fancy a pie and pint down the pub?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

The beans is people!

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1317142263315767298?s=19

McShitter Rises.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

ronya posted:

absolutely (hence why I qualified "as a strategy"). This is specific to objections of the nature "voting against is guaranteed to fail anyway and seeking a sympathetic Tory amendment is our only hope -- but nonetheless it's important to take a moral stand to signal the party's total opposition to the Government's position and not legitimize it with compromise" and such.

one can indeed focus on other respects - say, being straightforwardly honest that one trusts a left-wing leader to make judgment calls than a soft-left leader - but in that case it's got nothing to do with the question of parliamentary strategy

Reaaaaally stretching the definition of 'soft left' there by applying it to Keith. He's a Liberal *at best*

Mesopotamia
Apr 12, 2010
I've been logged off Twitter for the last year - why are all the Wes Streeting replies about McDonalds/making GBS threads?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

bustin keaton posted:

I've been logged off Twitter for the last year - why are all the Wes Streeting replies about McDonalds/making GBS threads?

He's the guy who got really mad about McDonald's not getting a table at the Labour conference because of their lovely Labour practices during the fight for £15.

Edit: also a Dril tweet about making a villain who shits in McDonalds hamburgers.

https://twitter.com/BudrykZack/status/1212200503330955264?s=19

Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Oct 16, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

bustin keaton posted:

I've been logged off Twitter for the last year - why are all the Wes Streeting replies about McDonalds/making GBS threads?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/04/labours-mcdonalds-ban-virtue-signalling-worst-kind for a bit more info.

E: New Statesman is poo poo though, as evidenced by them publishing Wes Streeting.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

He also looks like the hamburglar.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
With his movie star good looks.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
polish off those guillotines

quote:

John Lewis is to become a residential landlord, with a plan to build rental homes above or beside Waitrose supermarkets around the UK as part of a strategy to restore the battered fortunes of the employee-owned retailer.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/16/john-lewis-to-build-rental-homes-at-20-of-its-uk-sites

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