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Paradoxish posted:A de facto shutdown relies on the media playing up the current situation, which they largely have not been doing. Local news channels here are barely mentioning that fact that a handful of schools shut down nearly every day. They've technically been reporting on increase positivity rates, but only with massive caveats that try to make it sound like it's not that bad. And this is in a state that's been pretty okay about all of this. My point was that a de facto shutdown will occur when enough workers contract the virus that businesses can't stay open.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I think it's the latter. I typically go grocery shopping after my shift, and groceries have the same mask mandate we have for restaurants (until you sit down to eat/drink/yarfk particulates all over your friends). Compliance is effectively full at the grocery, with the occasional dude with his schnoz peeking out above the mask. I wonder if there's a filtering effect happening where the "maybe it won't be bad! I'll be careful!" people are slowly getting too freaked out to go out anymore, and it's just leaving the true chuds behind. I know a few people who broke down over the last few months and decided to go out and do things, and then ultimately decided that they were just wildly uncomfortable being in those environments and it wasn't worth it.
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In the pipeline guy thinks coronavirus reinfections are not a total catastrophe:quote:Immunity and Re-Infection SKULL.GIF posted:I think it's the latter. I typically go grocery shopping after my shift, and groceries have the same mask mandate we have for restaurants (until you sit down to eat/drink/yarfk particulates all over your friends). Compliance is effectively full at the grocery, with the occasional dude with his schnoz peeking out above the mask.
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hah jokes on them I hit my max out of pocket and just going to the doctor for the gently caress of it take that asses
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Nocturtle posted:In the pipeline guy thinks coronavirus reinfections are not a total catastrophe: mystes has issued a correction as of 00:59 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1317616762976829441 No too bad for NSW In Melbourne Dan's presser is about to start and will announce what restrictions are being eased for Victorians.
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Melbourne opening er up annoucements with five cases over the last three days: Now: - no time limit for leaving house, up from two hours - 25km travel limit, up from 5 - can get a haircut with mask on - time limit for exercise scrapped - outdoor gatherings of 10 people from 2 households - tennis, skateparks, golf allowed - hairdressers opening - auctions allowed - house renos allowed - allied health (whatever that is) Nov 1: - Can leave home for non essential reasons - retail opens - hospitality opens with capacity limits - outdoor venues can open with 25% capacity Was speaking way too fast but those are the big ones. https://twitter.com/DanielAndrewsMP/status/1317619488779481089?s=09 UnfortunateSexFart has issued a correction as of 01:26 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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Paradoxish posted:I wonder if there's a filtering effect happening where the "maybe it won't be bad! I'll be careful!" people are slowly getting too freaked out to go out anymore, and it's just leaving the true chuds behind. I know a few people who broke down over the last few months and decided to go out and do things, and then ultimately decided that they were just wildly uncomfortable being in those environments and it wasn't worth it. the following is dine in OpenTable reservations, year over year, averaged by week, for each state:  definitely see the beginning of open r up in May, but that completely halts and even backslides a bit in June. But by July we're eating in more and more until the end of August and now we've just been hovering around -40% of usual if you're wondering what states are consistently seeing more volume than last year, the answer is Rhode Island. All of that is Rhode Island. i have no idea why, except maybe they don't want to be alive in RI anymore? the far and away most closed down state is and remains Hawaii
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I just spent $15 for express shipping on a phone case cause I didn't think I could travel 15km to pick it up yet doh. Standard shipping is overwhelmed at the moment. 25km for me means I can visit everything but farms pretty much. 
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fosborb posted:the following is dine in OpenTable reservations, year over year, averaged by week, for each state: I feel like anyone out and about doing 'normal' things has to have covid on their mind at every single second and is just performatively pretending it's fine for whatever reason. I just can't understand how anyone is comfortable being in a restaurant without a mask on
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fosborb posted:the following is dine in OpenTable reservations, year over year, averaged by week, for each state: this is a really cool graph, thank you
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at the end of the day, if you love graphs, youre gonna love COVID.
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empty whippet box posted:I feel like anyone out and about doing 'normal' things has to have covid on their mind at every single second and is just performatively pretending it's fine for whatever reason. I just can't understand how anyone is comfortable being in a restaurant without a mask on Well we have to live our lives, and if I get it I get it, and for most people it's pretty mild like the flu or a cold. I had this bad cough back in February and I have a feeling it was actually covid before they knew it was spreading. Do you guys want to split some sweet potato fries?
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Basically it sounds like other than the 25km limit we're just doing what most other cities/countries were doing for months as of Nov 1. But we'll have virtually no cases. I'll take it.
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Nocturtle posted:In the pipeline guy thinks coronavirus reinfections are not a total catastrophe: I think he is making a fairly dumb point as there is no systematic testing to quantify amount of reinfections, merely to document that they exist. With limited resources for running genetic sequencing, that means specifically targeting cases for testing that have a clear: sick, not sick, sick pattern. Now he seems to think that it is rare, because there are so many cases and so few documented reinfections, but that is a bad way to look at it. Let's have a look at the Nevada case, when he first got tested positive (April 18th) there had been a total 3626 cases in Nevada, at the time of his second diagnosis (June 5th) there had been 9309 total cases. He is one out of only 5683 additional infected since his first diagnosis in a state with a population of over 3 million. That is either one unlucky dude or a person with extremely risky behavior. Now the thing is we wouldn't actually expect a lot of reinfection cases, even if there was zero immunity granted, because as poo poo as things seem now the percentage of total population that has been infected is actually quite low. And not only does it seem to grant some immunity, but we would also expect people that have been infected once to be exhibiting less risky behavior (not just because getting COVID-19 sucks to get, but because of the longer term debilitating effects). I kinda read his post as if he is working from a perspective where the Nevada case just happened, instead of the paper documenting it just being published. Edit: Just to quantify it a bit and with some caveats. If we assume the numbers from Nevada are correct and we assume a completely random dispersal of infections (this is obviously not the case, but nevertheless), with an additional 0.18% of Nevada's population being infected between his first and second diagnosis and 3626 initially infected, we would expect to see just 6.69 people reinfected in Nevada. That is assuming the standard length of immunity is no higher than the 6 weeks as in the case, if it is higher the expected number of infected would be lower. Pingui has issued a correction as of 02:27 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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If you believe 300,000 have died in the US so far, isn't 1/1250 basically the national average?
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It's not the 20% hospitalization rate and a third to half of those die after getting blown up like balloons disease we thought it was in March but Jesus Christ Australia has the answer, knock out down by paying everyone to stay home, then chase the remnants around city to city until vaccine.
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PerniciousKnid posted:If you believe 300,000 have died in the US so far, isn't 1/1250 basically the national average? Yep
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MorrisBae posted:https://twitter.com/LeanneStuck/status/1317203573516677121 would probably get better adoption if the NSA FBI and local police hadn't made it exceedingly obvious that they use apps like this to track people and stick them with rioting charges when they dare go to a protest and yeah i know this app supposedly doesn't actually track people and uses bluetooth for proximity alerts or w/e but good luck getting people to actually believe that
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They really should stop announcing these ahead of time, just do it on the day
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lol imagine needing a curfew, stupid frenchies
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Judakel posted:They really should stop announcing these ahead of time, just do it on the day they message them specifically as Last Weekend of Fun bonanza's so they don't piss off business owners.
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Judakel posted:They really should stop announcing these ahead of time, just do it on the day It's intentional. They're giving business owners a handout because idiots like Macron believe they can compromise with a virus.
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Apparently 55 New Zealanders snuck into Melbourne the second they could travel to Australia. It was supposed to be Sydney/Darwin only.
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meanwhile MS is doing much, much worse than this and nobody cares
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empty whippet box posted:meanwhile MS is doing much, much worse than this and nobody cares i care
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you see how that guy at the end of the video got a burger? he's going to eat it with a fork and kinfe. not like just cut it in half, but his hands will not touch the burg at all, just cut it up in to small pieces and eat them one at a time with the fork. this is how the french eat burgers i'm not making it up edit: and they eat asparagus with only their hands, no silverware at all
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I heard covid crisis is over.. Congrats everybody we did it!
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Paranoid Peanut posted:I heard covid crisis is over.. Congrats everybody we did it!* *Offer only applies in some countries.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Apparently 55 New Zealanders snuck into Melbourne the second they could travel to Australia. It was supposed to be Sydney/Darwin only. why?
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They’re probably Melburnians or have family there.
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Gio posted:i care nobody
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empty whippet box posted:meanwhile MS is doing much, much worse than this and nobody cares This is gonna kill a minimum of one in a thousand people in the country before all is said and done (probably a lot more than that) and it's remains mind blowing to me that the chud line of 'we just have to learn to live with it' is something that tens of millions of people believe.
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MorrisBae posted:https://twitter.com/LeanneStuck/status/1317203573516677121 where do they expect people to hear about these apps they're supposed to download? are they taking out facebook ads or tv ads?
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Thoguh posted:This is gonna kill a minimum of one in a thousand people in the country before all is said and done (probably a lot more than that) and it's remains mind blowing to me that the chud line of 'we just have to learn to live with it' is something that tens of millions of people believe. Yeah, that's assuming the government immediately starts doing the best things it could do to stop the spread and help people. At this point "100 times worse than 9/11" is a hilariously optimistic scenario.
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