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Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






At law school I heard a couple of girls sniggering that a third girl would never get a training contract because of her (Yorkshire) accent. At the time it struck me as a very cruel and stupid thing to say, but that’s law students for you.

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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
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I AM THERESA MAY


One of the reasons I'm hesitant to try to move to a "better" law school, most of the kids here are from working class backgrounds, it's the people without regional accents that stick out (however, they are more likely to get training contracts :smith:)

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Bobby Deluxe posted:


There is a pretty heavy brexit metaphor in that film now I think about it.

Now to tie Hot Fuzz to Black Lives Matter...

The bad guys plan was to create a perfect idyllic village society . This, naturally, involved regular murders of anyone a bit ‘urban’.

Because this was Britain rather than America, the cops are mostly passive bystanders to this, rather than the main organisers. And then in drifts into fantasy when the protagonist hero-cop Angel actually decides the murders are illegal and people should be arrested for them.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



radmonger posted:

Now to tie Hot Fuzz to Black Lives Matter...

The bad guys plan was to create a perfect idyllic village society . This, naturally, involved regular murders of anyone a bit ‘urban’.

Because this was Britain rather than America, the cops are mostly passive bystanders to this, rather than the main organisers. And then in drifts into fantasy when the protagonist hero-cop Angel actually decides the murders are illegal and people should be arrested for them.

Also the police chief is actually one of the main organisers.

Angel's arc is pretty OK though I think? He starts out obsessing about the law but spending most of his time hassling children and low level criminals, and by the end learns to direct his energy towards the people in power. And the swan is good.

Beefeater1980 posted:

At law school I heard a couple of girls sniggering that a third girl would never get a training contract because of her (Yorkshire) accent. At the time it struck me as a very cruel and stupid thing to say, but that’s law students for you.

What is it about law students? No matter what uni they go to they always seem to stand out as the biggest arseholes.

stev fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Oct 20, 2020

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Beefeater1980 posted:

At law school I heard a couple of girls sniggering that a third girl would never get a training contract because of her (Yorkshire) accent. At the time it struck me as a very cruel and stupid thing to say, but that’s law students for you.

When I was at Goldman I remember one of the partners telling me about the speech coaching classes he had taken to get rid of his West Country accent because “you can be chairing a FTSE 100 board meeting and no-one takes you seriously because they think you sound like a farmer”.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
We should warn all children from an early age that received pronunciation is the noise that child molesters make.

e: Of course, not all of them, because then they might let their guard down around future Jimmy Saviles and men with tall hats, but the ones that don't sweat all make noises like that.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Oct 20, 2020

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Shaun of the Dead is a fairly simply zombie film about hanging out with your mates. There's a romance subplot but it's all fairly accessible which is probably why it did quite so well.

Hot Fuzz is a classic fish out of water/cop film, but it's appeal was more specific. For the younger audience they had been experiencing overbearing 'think of the children' rules, no hoodies etc., so it was a tale of rebellion against that. For the older audience they had probably experienced with the fish out of water plot, and/or going to weird villages and feeling very wrong about the whole thing.

The World's End is much more specific, it's a story about a guy trying to hold on to the success of his youth when the world seems to be moving on around him. The problem with that premise is that for a lot of the younger audience - the 13-18 year olds who had watched Shaun of the Dead every day - they hadn't got to that point. They were still in uni, or just coming out of it, or were getting started in careers, so were still in the prime of their life. Their friends (largely) didn't have kids or responsibilities that stopped them from going out and getting drunk. The story fell flat to me at the time, but 7 years later I've rewatched it and it's a lot more relevant.

Anyway that's too many words about dumb comedy films.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Beefeater1980 posted:

At law school I heard a couple of girls sniggering that a third girl would never get a training contract because of her (Yorkshire) accent. At the time it struck me as a very cruel and stupid thing to say, but that’s law students for you.

Did.. Did they think there are no lawyers in Yorkshire??

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

stev posted:

What is it about law students? No matter what uni they go to they always seem to stand out as the biggest arseholes.

Most people don't choose to study law because they want to help people. They choose it because they want to make partner, get paid a fuckton of money and blow most of it on cocaine.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They think that Yorkshire Law is litigated via trial by ferret.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

They think that Yorkshire Law is litigated via trial by ferret.

I'm pretty sure Yorkshire Law is just whatever the opposite of Lancashire Law is out of spite, to be honest.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Living in Yorkshire I needed a notary to get access to my Spanish accounts. I was quite surprised that he was possibly the poshest man I've ever met. He thought the idea of moving to Europe in the first place was highly amusing and thought that I was very odd trying to engage him in conversation about anything but work.

I have a fairly posh rp accent and he was all sunflowers until I started talking about poor people getting the shaft due to covid.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Miftan posted:

I'm pretty sure Yorkshire Law is just whatever the opposite of Lancashire Law is out of spite, to be honest.
The same is true for Lancashire Law, so they end up in an oscillating steady state.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Having worked in law firms in Manchester and Yorkshire, I can say that the Yorkshire practice was slightly more idiosyncratic. On my first day both of the firms partners came out of a meeting wrestling with each other whilst both of them were being wrestled by the office manager. They also smoked cigarettes inside, which was funny.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

I was a working class northern student at Durham (20 years ago) AMA.

I remember getting poo poo from the posh cunts but the thing about bringing the car daddy bought you to uni is I can slash your tyres.

Don't remember any of that attitude from the lecturers or tutors but I did Computer Science. It might have been different in Law or English Lit or whatever.

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

stev posted:

And the swan is good.

The swan in Hot Fuzz is Chaotic Good, which is quite a departure from regular swans in my experience, what with them usually being Chaotic Bastards.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Biggus Dickus posted:

The swan in Hot Fuzz is Chaotic Good, which is quite a departure from regular swans in my experience, what with them usually being Chaotic Bastards.

Definitely the inspiration for the Horrible Goose though.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Definitely the inspiration for the Horrible Goose though.

Ok my headcanon is now that the lovely Goose lives in Sandford.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Fairly sure the inspiration for the Horrible Goose was just geese.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Hello fellow people who went to Law school and have 'spanish accounts' that need opening. I too, are successful and fulfilled. Good day.

Eararaldor
Jul 30, 2007
Fanboys, ruining gaming since the 1980's

EvilHawk posted:

The World's End is much more specific, it's a story about a guy trying to hold on to the success of his youth when the world seems to be moving on around him. The problem with that premise is that for a lot of the younger audience - the 13-18 year olds who had watched Shaun of the Dead every day - they hadn't got to that point. They were still in uni, or just coming out of it, or were getting started in careers, so were still in the prime of their life. Their friends (largely) didn't have kids or responsibilities that stopped them from going out and getting drunk. The story fell flat to me at the time, but 7 years later I've rewatched it and it's a lot more relevant.

Oddly enough, you could also apply this to Trainspotting 2. I still really enjoyed it, but the whole remembering what it was like when you were young meant it had a really small audience, compared to the first.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Regarde Aduck posted:

Hello fellow people who went to Law school and have 'spanish accounts' that need opening. I too, are successful and fulfilled. Good day.

If they'd been to law school they wouldn't have needed the lawyer to set up the bank account for them.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Mebh posted:

Living in Yorkshire I needed a notary to get access to my Spanish accounts. I was quite surprised that he was possibly the poshest man I've ever met. He thought the idea of moving to Europe in the first place was highly amusing and thought that I was very odd trying to engage him in conversation about anything but work.

I have a fairly posh rp accent and he was all sunflowers until I started talking about poor people getting the shaft due to covid.

If you want something "notarised" in england you don't actually need a proper notary, any solicitor can also do it (though they probably don't realise that). Actual notaries are always posh because they tend to be semi-retired barristers who decide to qualify as notaries because they are bored and have a lot of money to waste getting a nonsense qualification off the archbishop of canterbury.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Eararaldor posted:

Oddly enough, you could also apply this to Trainspotting 2. I still really enjoyed it, but the whole remembering what it was like when you were young meant it had a really small audience, compared to the first.

Trainspotting 2 hit me in the feels in a big way.
Saw first when it came out at the height of my student days, the wild times.

The music for both first and second are loving perfect.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

ThomasPaine posted:

St Andrews has a similar rep to Durham but I always found that you just ended up with a pretty clear gap between the megaposho weirdos and the more normal types, and while I'd see plenty of green welly girls and big strapping public school lads about town there wasn't much interaction outside of formal classes/tutorials. Even the bars were kinda split by their clientele and I wouldn't have dreamed of going to the pretentious places they did, so you'd very rarely be socialising in the same places. I'm surprised Durham hasn't developed the same kind of toxic-ish but probably better for everyone in some respects class segregation.

That was my experience at Oxford too, tbh. About 1/3rd of the clientele were poshos (I remember the chap striding into the JCR in full riding fig, red jacket, black hat, riding boots etc), 2/3rds just...normal people, and there wasn't much mixing between the two. I think the poshos more often did private drunken black tie dinners with each other than went to bars though.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Eararaldor posted:

Oddly enough, you could also apply this to Trainspotting 2. I still really enjoyed it, but the whole remembering what it was like when you were young meant it had a really small audience, compared to the first.

Yeah any sort of "remembering our lost youth" film (particularly if in a sequel or some sort of collection) is really difficult to time - you either make it far enough away (like Trainspotting, 20 years between films) that the audience would have grown up and had similar experiences - but potentially lose younger audiences - or you make it too soon (like Worlds End) and it falls flat.

chestnut santabag
Jul 3, 2006

Guavanaut posted:

Fairly sure the inspiration for the Horrible Goose was just geese.


Golfers deserve no less than this.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


EvilHawk posted:

Yeah any sort of "remembering our lost youth" film (particularly if in a sequel or some sort of collection) is really difficult to time - you either make it far enough away (like Trainspotting, 20 years between films) that the audience would have grown up and had similar experiences - but potentially lose younger audiences - or you make it too soon (like Worlds End) and it falls flat.

Toy Story 3 got it spot on.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

sebzilla posted:

Toy Story 3 got it spot on.

Yeah once you appreciate that the toys are a stand-in for parents, the whole series has a really nice arc

Eararaldor
Jul 30, 2007
Fanboys, ruining gaming since the 1980's

EvilHawk posted:

Yeah any sort of "remembering our lost youth" film (particularly if in a sequel or some sort of collection) is really difficult to time - you either make it far enough away (like Trainspotting, 20 years between films) that the audience would have grown up and had similar experiences - but potentially lose younger audiences - or you make it too soon (like Worlds End) and it falls flat.

Could not agree more.

Also, I have no idea how else they could had done a sequel to that film that did not go down that route.

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

as a norn ironer I always had a slightly shameful thing for posh English green-welly girls. there was one I knew from law post-grad who was cracking, she tried to sound properly Co Durham but after three drinks she sounded like the Queen.

Maybe I just wanted to colonize them back, I dunno

Eararaldor
Jul 30, 2007
Fanboys, ruining gaming since the 1980's

sebzilla posted:

Toy Story 3 got it spot on.

The unique thing about Toy Story 3 is that it's about objects that can't age and die. It works for TS3 as they loop the film back to a childhood setting, while those other films can't make that loop happen (unless it's about passing on to the next generation but that's quite a different type of film).

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

chestnut santabag posted:

Golfers deserve no less than this.

Yeah, this goose is doing good work.

VVV Watch Toy Story 4, it's fantastic.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Oct 20, 2020

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

sebzilla posted:

Toy Story 3 got it spot on.

Toy Story 3 was a god drat masterpiece, never saw 4 because the story was over for me at that point.

This is only tangibly related but I think Jurassic World got the world-building absolutely spot on for me. The kids who saw the original grew up with this massively over-marketed franchise (pumping out poo poo films), along with all the other marketing stuff we see in daily life. In Jurassic World they took this to the extreme of naming a loving dinosaur after a company. I hope it was intended as satire, if it was it was absolutely brilliant and all the people moaning about "Oh why do they have Pandora or a Ben and Jerry's blah blah blah" when it was like, have you been to Disney?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Lungboy posted:

Yeah, this goose is doing good work.

You wanted a birdie, heres a birdie.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Been catching up on my old flatmate Michael Payne in light of his NEC run and spotted that his best mate from Uni (who I remember being a massive Tory at the time) has been a Lib Dem councillor for the last four years and stood for Parliament in Warrington South in 2019, neatly taking enough Labour votes to let the Tories in. God they were a pair of tedious twats.

DaWolfey
Oct 25, 2003

College Slice

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I'm starting to get real bummed out by this covid app, I have to go into the office occasionally by public transport and it's pinging me daily to say that I've been near someone who reported positive (but don't worry about it!). Today I got three of the loving things.

Are these the Wrong Alerts that it then says to ignore, or the Right Alerts that you have to pay attention to?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

DaWolfey posted:

Are these the Wrong Alerts that it then says to ignore, or the Right Alerts that you have to pay attention to?

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

EvilHawk posted:

Toy Story 3 was a god drat masterpiece, never saw 4 because the story was over for me at that point.

This is only tangibly related but I think Jurassic World got the world-building absolutely spot on for me. The kids who saw the original grew up with this massively over-marketed franchise (pumping out poo poo films), along with all the other marketing stuff we see in daily life. In Jurassic World they took this to the extreme of naming a loving dinosaur after a company. I hope it was intended as satire, if it was it was absolutely brilliant and all the people moaning about "Oh why do they have Pandora or a Ben and Jerry's blah blah blah" when it was like, have you been to Disney?

It's well summed up by a quote from JW

quote:

Henry Wu: You are acting like we are engaged in some kind of mad science but we are doing what we have done from the beginning. Nothing in Jurassic World is natural! We have always filled gaps in the genomes with the DNA of other animals and if their genetic code was pure many of them would look quite different but you didn't ask for reality; you asked for more teeth!

Ahh, dr Wu, who somewhere between JP and JW became a supervillain. Mainly for the cash.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I got one of those too, and had to trawl the notification log to double check that it's a don't worry one.

Also there's a yellow warning of rain for the whole south-east and the midlands, as the piss var has upended again.

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