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Got a copy of the "Good Deeds Gone Unpunished" prequel book recently. Great stories in it, strongly recommend giving it a read. A lot of the interesting stuff about it would spoil a lot of the fun so I'm going to avoid saying anything specific about any of them, but the O-Chul story in particular is excellent.
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ultrafilter posted:Take a look at 1150 again. The part at the end where Durkon calls out the rest of the party feels like just an end-of-strip joke, but before he got vamped there's no way Durkon would've done that. He was always completely passive and just supporting the rest of the group, but I'm taking this as an early sign that he's prepared to be forceful now when appropriate. And since he has direct orders from Thor, there will be a lot of appropriate moments. 1150 is a really good. I particularly love the panel where it pulls out to reveal the entire Order is standing there, waiting to roll initiative and kick Hilgya's rear end. And she just does. not. care.
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Oct 9, 2020 21:35
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ConfusedUs posted:1150 is a really good. I particularly love the panel where it pulls out to reveal the entire Order is standing there, waiting to roll initiative and kick Hilgya's rear end. The best part is that they've been standing like that for ten minutes, waiting for her to finish resurrecting him again. Poor Roy, holding up that heavy-rear end sword while she casts.
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Oct 9, 2020 21:46
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Cup Runneth Over posted:The best part is that they've been standing like that for ten minutes, waiting for her to finish resurrecting him again. Poor Roy, holding up that heavy-rear end sword while she casts. Bah, pick a muscle class, get a muscle task
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Oct 9, 2020 22:05
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Johnny Aztec posted:How does the Fireball do damage, if it somehow doesnt even knock over glasses, or set Exploding barrels on fire? Fireball is literally just a ball of fire that expands to hit the AoE without concussive force iirc. So... Magic. SlothfulCobra posted:Fire can do damage without being concussive, and a concussive explosion doesn't need to be firey. Hollywood has lied to you. Yeah but the damage catching on fire does is way lower than the damage being hit by a Fireball does.
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Oct 10, 2020 05:09
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cargohills posted:Got a copy of the "Good Deeds Gone Unpunished" prequel book recently. Great stories in it, strongly recommend giving it a read. A lot of the interesting stuff about it would spoil a lot of the fun so I'm going to avoid saying anything specific about any of them, but the O-Chul story in particular is excellent. I wish they'd print more copies of it. I'm sure it'll come back around eventually, but I don't want to wait (or buy twice and I definitely want a physical copy).
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Oct 10, 2020 05:29
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I think I wore a tshirt of this as a teen
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Oct 19, 2020 14:30
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 that's an update btwDurkon is still Durkon. 
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Oct 19, 2020 14:33
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Honestly? The whole thing went a lot better than expected.
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Oct 19, 2020 14:38
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Oona is a surprisingly useful member of Team Evil, right now, even when she isn't riding a sonic burst flying dinosaur or whatever it is.
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Oct 19, 2020 14:58
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Oona is a surprisingly useful member of Team Evil, right now, even when she isn't riding a sonic burst flying dinosaur or whatever it is. Oh come on, you don't know an ythrak on sight? (I have never written or played an encounter with an ythrack, I don't know why I know it off the top of my head like that, but I'd guess I spent enough time pooring over MM1 to know all of the things in it)
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Oct 19, 2020 15:27
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Oona is a surprisingly useful member of Team Evil, right now, even when she isn't riding a sonic burst flying dinosaur or whatever it is. Oona and Greyview are very competent. Happy Nihilist and Glum Nihilist.
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Oct 19, 2020 16:03
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If only Durkon had prepared "Summon Doggy Treats" that day
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Oct 19, 2020 16:08
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ikanreed posted:Oh come on, you don't know an ythrak on sight? The reason you remember it is because the ythrack is amazing and one of the best designs in MM1, hands down.
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Oct 19, 2020 16:14
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paradoxGentleman posted:The reason you remember it is because the ythrack is amazing and one of the best designs in MM1, hands down. This is cloaker erasure.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:23
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The look on that wolf's face was loving incredible. Made me crack up.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:30
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Given that silence was specifically cast on the wolf, it seems like we're going to see some "Timmy is in a well" pantomime. Either that or Zykon has a silent dispel.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:37
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wdarkk posted:Given that silence was specifically cast on the wolf, it seems like we're going to see some "Timmy is in a well" pantomime. Either that or Zykon has a silent dispel. He's a sorcerer, as long as he took silent spell at all, he's set.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:50
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ikanreed posted:He's a sorcerer, as long as he took silent spell at all, he's set. Do you think Xykon is the type to take silent anything?
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Oct 19, 2020 18:21
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ikanreed posted:He's a sorcerer, as long as he took silent spell at all, he's set. Or just stand whatever the radius of a silence spell is away and cast dispel magic. Pretty sure it's range is farther.
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Oct 19, 2020 18:22
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wdarkk posted:Given that silence was specifically cast on the wolf, it seems like we're going to see some "Timmy is in a well" pantomime. Either that or Zykon has a silent dispel. Xykon might have silent dispel, but he'd probably still do the charades just because he'd find it funny. I'm kind of curious if this is just a gag set up or if it'll matter; my gut says it's solely for the joke when Greyview gets to Team Evil (or Teavil as I like to call them) since all the things that are interesting to get out of this scene are in place and resuming the chase scene like it was Scooby-Doo doesn't add a whole lot. But who knows?
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Oct 19, 2020 18:30
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Random Stranger posted:Xykon might have silent dispel, but he'd probably still do the charades just because he'd find it funny. Honestly, what I'm hoping for is that: A) The dungeon is still full of monsters. B) Team Evil is busy fighting some monsters. C) Greyview running in Silenced blows a couple of spells for team Evil and makes the fight that much harder.
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Oct 19, 2020 18:38
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Oona is an animal handler -- she can probably tell that Greyview is in distress without him actually saying anything. Still, the charades thing would be funny.
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Oct 19, 2020 18:44
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Oona is an animal handler -- she can probably tell that Greyview is in distress without him actually saying anything. Still, the charades thing would be funny. It's not clear she listens to what he says anyways
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Oct 19, 2020 18:59
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Yea, the fact that the Silence is centered on the wolf is going to come up next time we see him and probably be amusing.
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Oct 19, 2020 21:04
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"Sklum"?
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Oct 20, 2020 06:34
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Can't help but feel like Xykon is gonna be staring right at the gate like five feet into the dungeon proper and he's not gonna give one hoot about the clerics.
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Oct 20, 2020 11:49
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Yea, the fact that the Silence is centered on the wolf is going to come up next time we see him and probably be amusing. Team evil in the middle of a really hard encounter and wolf runs in as theyre trying to cast their spells.
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Oct 20, 2020 12:47
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Team evil in the middle of a really hard encounter and wolf runs in as theyre trying to cast their spells. Or he realises in time and has to keep 20’ away while team evil yell at him to get off his lazy butt and come help.
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Oct 20, 2020 14:33
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Calling it now: Xykon really is just a sub-boss and gets crunched by the monsters thanks to the Silence. Roy and co have to face off against some other villain or thing to save the world.
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Oct 20, 2020 16:23
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I feel like too much has been built up about Xykon for him to get crunched, I imagine him being crunched in a more satisfying way.
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Oct 20, 2020 16:32
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I mean, he is a lich. He can be crunched just fine. He'll get better. Except that would then expose Redcloak's deception WRT his phylactery. X believes his soul-hidey-place is at the center of that Astral Plane fortress X built. When it is actually still hanging around Redcloak's neck.
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Oct 20, 2020 16:40
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I wonder if it still is... After all, that's where the heroes believe the Phylactery is, and where Xykon would think to look for it if he twigged to the deception. Redcloak did come up with the "One of these three skeletons is Xykon" gambit, after all.
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Oct 20, 2020 16:50
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Durkon only knows that Xykon has an astral fortress because Thor told him. None of the heroes know that the phylactery is there, and Redcloak doesn't know that Durkon knows about the fortress.
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Oct 20, 2020 17:08
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Johnny Aztec posted:I mean, he is a lich. He can be crunched just fine. He'll get better. I think at this point Redcloak's only out of that situation is to break the phylactery. If he doesn't then Xykon is going to go straight to Gobbotopia and start blasting out of sheer rage.
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Oct 20, 2020 17:17
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So I'm wondering about that Superb Dispelling that Xykon declined to use earlier in this encounter. He probably won't use it on Greyview, but if the Order shows up he's definitely going to switch all their magical effects off. There's precedent in the comic too (Durkula's coven shutting down the party with Dispel). But what would Superb do that a barrage of regular/greater Dispels couldn't do? It's going to have to do something otherwise there's no real narrative reason for Xykon to have it (at least, compared to just regularly dispelling) and have this Chekhov's gun primed in this encounter.
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SKULL.GIF posted:So I'm wondering about that Superb Dispelling that Xykon declined to use earlier in this encounter. It has a +40 to the dispel roll. The target you have to hit is 11 + the spell caster's level, so it gives him a really, really good chance of dispelling anything. Cf. regular dispel at +10 and greater dispel at +20.
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Shugojin posted:I think at this point Redcloak's only out of that situation is to break the phylactery. If he doesn't then Xykon is going to go straight to Gobbotopia and start blasting out of sheer rage. Breaking the Phylactery doesn't kill Xykon, though. If Xykon's soul isn't currently in the phylactery, all breaking it does is destroy your bargaining chip.
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Oct 20, 2020 17:43
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:It has a +40 to the dispel roll. The target you have to hit is 11 + the spell caster's level, so it gives him a really, really good chance of dispelling anything. Cf. regular dispel at +10 and greater dispel at +20. Right. Is there a hitherto-existing magical effect that requires that much of a boost to the roll to dispel? I can't think of anything and using it to switch off Durkon's Mass Death Ward seems too simple.
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He already used it to completely trounce Darth Suvius. I’m not versed in the specifics of soul splices or dispelling magic, but if any of those spells used the splice’s caster level, a non-epic dispel probably wouldn’t have shut down every single one of their protections in one round. Also, nobody quite knows how Xykon’s astral fortress will come into play, since the phylactery isn’t actually there, but what if its role is entirely unrelated to that? It could be that the Fiends are aware of it and are gearing up there, or even that our mystery invisible kidnappers are there with the paladins right now.
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