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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
:rip: James Randi :(

TheRat posted:

Didn't he spend a significant amount of time actively loving with Kazakhstan as borat? I feel like that puts it firmly in the Jason lee category.
Kazakhstan seems divided between the obvious "his whole character is taking the piss out of us" and "tourism and investment has really benefited from the world being reminded that we exist post Soviet Union."

e: a 2-6-6T would be a tank engine with one more set of undriven trailing wheels than the 2-6-4T

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 21, 2020

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biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke



Hello

This made me laugh. hopefully it will do the same for some of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fbMZxnNvhA

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

The only options are he's an anti-semite, a pedophile, a hypocritical champagne socialist or Nice But Dim, they've been doing the latter already and I don't think he's advocated for post-capitalist economic systems so get set for some character assassination coincidentally appearing lads.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Somebody under that replied "well it'll be hard to damage a genuinely decent person I hope". Yeah definitely haven't seen that happen in any recent events at all.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

:rip: James Randi :(

I remember checking a while ago and being amazed he was still alive. :rip: to the big man.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

biglads posted:

Hello

This made me laugh. hopefully it will do the same for some of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fbMZxnNvhA

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

This is more on brand for the thread I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hcYrtQPOvw

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


If Rashford doesn't win SPOTY then we riot

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

sebzilla posted:

If Rashford doesn't win SPOTY then we riot

What is SPOTY?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

jabby posted:

Any currency movements that were definitely going to happen are always already baked into the market by traders before the likes of us know about them. So trying to play the market for profit is a gamble, you might win or you might lose. If you're after security for your cash I don't think it's really that useful.

I'm kind of iffy on this. Like you trust the honesty and or capability of these people? A few years ago I had some interest in the pound euro rate and was advised all sorts of things, followed it quite closely and as you say they claimed it was all baked in and wouldn't make a difference and this was definitely what would happen. Without fail after every significant thing that happened they reassessed and said unforeseen circumstances had wobbled the hippo more than expected or whatever and yeah, thing had had the effect. baked in is bollocks. Take a long term view, even then its a mugs game. Buy woodland.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What is SPOTY?

I assume "sports personality of the year" or similar.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What is SPOTY?

SuperTed's friend.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
^^^ Nooooo gently caress you

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What is SPOTY?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What is SPOTY?

Sports Personality of the Year.
Its a BBC show that got very popular back in the 70s/80s that is still going.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
So, I've heard that Boris and the Tories started calling a No Deal Brexit "Australian style deal" to make the awful but almost inevitable outcome sort of easier to swallow.
Honestly, I expect that they even fail at setting up this "deal" and somehow end up with an international trade embargo. Just wait until December when they claim that they might reach a North Korean deal.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Oct 21, 2020

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Woah! Does wikipedia cut off stuff thats too old? Looking at the superted wikipedia page the oldest recorded version is from 2005. I know for a fact my friend and I edited that page like 4 years before that, I'm not sure we didn't even start it from a stub. Looking at the page for frog that goes back to 2003. Theres something weird going on.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Your ten thousand word screed that superted did 9/11 did not meet the quality standards of wikipedia.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

OwlFancier posted:

Your ten thousand word screed that superted did 9/11 did not meet the quality standards of wikipedia.

Wikipedia did not meet the standards of the truth!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I remember checking a while ago and being amazed he was still alive. :rip: to the big man.

He only retired a few years ago, well into his eighties, and after cancer treatment that was successful. I remember he said at the time something like "I know I'll die some day, probably fairly soon, and I don't mind making room, I take up an awful lot of oxygen". It was probably a bit more profound than that but it pretty much summed him up, he was always so cranky without ever seeming bitter or angry, he just enjoyed what he did and kept doing it until it was time to rest.

Anyway you can never talk about Randi without one of his best TV appearances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CASghTzNhc

It should surprise nobody that Hydrick later turned out to be a nonce.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

he was always so cranky without ever seeming bitter or angry, he just enjoyed what he did and kept doing it until it was time to rest.
He had some old man atheist skeptic opinions that were a bit poo poo, but Amazingly for someone so well regarded by the atheist skeptic movement of the time when he was told why they were a bit poo poo he went away and thought about them and came back and said "yes, they were a bit poo poo, and I understand why now and no longer hold them."

Perhaps his greatest trick of all was not doubling down forever when the whole of reddit would have supported him. That and the salt shaker one.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I'm kind of iffy on this. Like you trust the honesty and or capability of these people? A few years ago I had some interest in the pound euro rate and was advised all sorts of things, followed it quite closely and as you say they claimed it was all baked in and wouldn't make a difference and this was definitely what would happen. Without fail after every significant thing that happened they reassessed and said unforeseen circumstances had wobbled the hippo more than expected or whatever and yeah, thing had had the effect. baked in is bollocks. Take a long term view, even then its a mugs game. Buy woodland.

Think of it more that in a market like currencies where there are lots of players and trillions of pounds worth of transactions each day, more or less everything that can be known gets built into the price rapidly. So when people talk about "baked in", they mean the human knowledge. The chaotic nature of the real world also weighs heavily on things though, and its effects cannot be known except as they happen.
Point is- you can't consistently beat the market unless you have access to information the market doesn't and even then it's helpful if you can predict the future too.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I'm kind of iffy on this. Like you trust the honesty and or capability of these people? A few years ago I had some interest in the pound euro rate and was advised all sorts of things, followed it quite closely and as you say they claimed it was all baked in and wouldn't make a difference and this was definitely what would happen. Without fail after every significant thing that happened they reassessed and said unforeseen circumstances had wobbled the hippo more than expected or whatever and yeah, thing had had the effect. baked in is bollocks. Take a long term view, even then its a mugs game. Buy woodland.

Baked in doesn't mean currency won't shift in response to political happenings. It means that it's already shifted to take into account everything we know now.

If we do end up leaving without a brexit deal, the pound will no doubt tank. But currency traders have already calculated the risk of that happening, using all the insider knowledge they can, and the current price reflects that risk. So will it still go down if we leave without a deal? Yes, because that's the risk becoming reality. Does that mean you should buy Euros because the pound will definitely go down? No, because we might still get a deal and if we do the pound will probably rise.

The currency market is basically like the odds a bookie gives you. The current price of pounds reflects both the risk that we won't get a deal and the chance that we will, along with all the other risks facing the UK. And it will change on a daily basis as the risks change. If you think we definitely won't get a deal, then put all your money in Euros and make a great return. But the principle is the same as you 'knowing' Spurs are going to win and putting all your money on them. You might win, you might lose, but the risk of both is 'baked in' to the odds the bookie offered you in the first place. I.E the current price of pounds.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


NotJustANumber99 posted:

I'm kind of iffy on this. Like you trust the honesty and or capability of these people? A few years ago I had some interest in the pound euro rate and was advised all sorts of things, followed it quite closely and as you say they claimed it was all baked in and wouldn't make a difference and this was definitely what would happen. Without fail after every significant thing that happened they reassessed and said unforeseen circumstances had wobbled the hippo more than expected or whatever and yeah, thing had had the effect. baked in is bollocks. Take a long term view, even then its a mugs game. Buy woodland.

if Brexit is worse than the markets currently belief (which given lack of understanding of no deal is likely) then the pound will drop further. If you believe that the market underestimates boris's stupidity it's a bet you can take.

The current odds include those of who think it'll be a disaster and those who think it'll be fine. Given one of those groups is divorced from reality, it's reasonable to think the odds do not line up with probabilities of reality.

Nothingtoseehere fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Oct 22, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

cant cook creole bream posted:

So, I've heard that Boris and the Tories started calling a No Deal Brexit "Australian style deal" to make the awful but almost inevitable outcome sort of easier to swallow.
Honestly, I expect that they even fail at setting up this "deal" and somehow end up with an international trade embargo. Just wait until December when they claim that they might reach a North Korean deal.

Have seen people point out on Twitter that this "Australian style deal" is also the same deal that many other countries, e.g. Mongolia have with the EU, but a "Mongolian style deal" doesn't sound so great.

"Australian style deal" isn't great in the first place - Australia doesn't need a great deal with the EU, of course, because by my judging, the nearest point in Australia to the nearest point in the EU is roughly 10,000 loving kilometres away.

biglads
Feb 21, 2007

I could've gone to Blatherwycke




Tito was a top lad

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Sanford posted:

If someone was expecting a reasonably sized chunk of cash, say from being made redundant after fifteen years, would it be wise to convert it to euros? Or am I too poor to worry about such things?

Convert it into a bit of woodland up in Scotland, buy a camper van and see out Brexit the proper way.

or premium bonds

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

biglads posted:

Tito was a top lad

One of my friends from one of the former Yugoslavian countries, said to me:
"It was great living under a dictatorship, underTito, we all had a free house, free education. So he killed 100000 people, but most of us were ok. I don't care about having freedom so long as I get a nice house and good healthcare."
(Friend is 42 and would have been 2 years old when he died, so this is all received wisdom).

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
More on the now deleted tweet from the young conservatives:

source: graun/politics/2020/oct/21/manchester-young-tory-hits-out-at-boris-johnson-over-covid-restrictions

quote:

Manchester young Tory hits out at Boris Johnson over Covid restrictions
Cameron Cosh, a student at Manchester University, said move was a ‘kick in the balls’ to Tory seats

Amy Walker

Wed 21 Oct 2020 16.04 BSTLast modified on Wed 21 Oct 2020 23.57 BST

Politics student and chair of Manchester Young Conservatives, Cameron Cosh. In now-deleted tweets, he said: ‘Boris has lied about helping us in the north. It’s time for him to go.’ Photograph: Joel Goodman/The Guardian

The chairman of Manchester Young Conservatives has criticised the prime minister for forcing the region into the strictest coronavirus curbs, saying the move was a “kick in the balls” to “red wall” seats gained by the party across northern England last year.

Cameron Cosh, 20, spoke in a personal capacity but said his views were “definitely shared among people in my group”, adding that the £60m financial support package offered to Greater Manchester was “pathetic”.

The offer was rejected on Tuesday by the region’s Labour mayor, Andy Burnham, who condemned the government for “playing poker” with people’s lives.

Cosh’s comments came after he posted a series of widely shared messages from the youth group’s Twitter account on Wednesday after the government failed to strike a deal with Greater Manchester leaders and said it would impose tier 3 restrictions, closing pubs and other hospitality venues.

The since-deleted tweets read: “Boris has lied about helping us in the north. It’s time for him to go. He’s not a Conservative. He’s got no backbone or genuine deals. He’s incompetent. He has now lost all the seats we worked so hard in Greater Manchester to win.”

The third-year politics student at the University of Manchester said on Wednesday he had “given up his life” to campaign for the party in the region ahead of the December 2019 election, in which the Conservative party won large gains in north-west England.

“It’s just a kick in the balls really, it’s going to damage all the work I did,” he said.

Cosh agreed with Burnham that more financial support – such as an 80% furlough scheme – was needed in areas affected by the strictest measures, and that Boris Johnson’s failure to concede to his demands was at odds with the government’s levelling-up agenda.

“They’ve got four years – all’s not lost but it’s not a good start,” he said, adding that Johnson’s government had already been undermined by “U-turn after U-turn over the summer”.

While supporting the Labour mayor over the latest restrictions and financial package, unlike Burnham, Cosh is vehemently anti-lockdown, advocating instead for a system of “herd immunity” to be created among those at low risk from Covid-19.

“The elderly and the vulnerable – those who are likely to catch it – I think should go into isolation and be shielded. Everyone else who is healthy should continue on and try and help the economy,” he said.

“If not, the economy is going to die, and when we all come out it’s going to be a pretty poo poo life trying to piece together some sort of 2008-esque nightmare.”

Cosh warned that 18- to 24-year-olds would probably face the worst economic outcomes as a result of long lockdowns, and said he thought little love had been lost between his age group and the government. He added: “I don’t think they had a decent chance of getting young people, never mind getting young people in Manchester, onboard anyway. That’s still a long way off.”

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Anyway you can never talk about Randi without one of his best TV appearances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CASghTzNhc
Absolute king poo poo.


Endjinneer posted:

Think of it more that in a market like currencies where there are lots of players and trillions of pounds worth of transactions each day, more or less everything that can be known gets built into the price rapidly.
Picture four economies on the edge of a cliff :v:

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Whenever I think of investment advice I remember a line from Scrubs, where Turk asks an investment banker friend where he should put $500 and gets the reply "a wallet or a money-clip".

For most of us the amount you'd need to risk to make a decent return is more than we can afford to risk. Most people making good money from investing either started with a huge amount (in which case just stick it in a tracker fund and make bank) or they're gambling with other people's money.

The one exception is investing over literally decades for a pension fund or similar, in which case again just stick it in a tracker fund.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

More on the now deleted tweet from the young conservatives:

source: graun/politics/2020/oct/21/manchester-young-tory-hits-out-at-boris-johnson-over-covid-restrictions

https://twitter.com/MancTories/status/1300783582886146048?s=20

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I want to ask "from edinburgh, in manchester, is a tory" but I am remembering that edinburgh is actually england.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
What kind of serial killer has a favourite MP

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Pilchenstein posted:

What kind of serial killer has a favourite MP

Not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn or John Mcdonnell then?

Now, who has a favorite Tory MP is a different questions, especially when it's a no name like Wragg...

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


they found the mythical handsome young tory but his choice in drink is loving apalling

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Imagine being a Labour voter that doesn't think that the Government should provide food to hungry children.

it was 17% previously too: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/education/survey-results/daily/2020/06/16/0c101/1

again - sadly no crosstabs, though

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.

Eararaldor posted:

It's put Laura Pidcock on my list. Isn't she one with bad views on trans rights or am I getting her mixed up with someone?
the other transphobe on the labour left NEC slate is ann henderson, so please don't vote for her either.

https://twitter.com/Torr_ro/status/1319026815890001922

pidcock has made her views clear enough too with her talk of "protecting single-sex spaces" even if she hasn't been as blatant about it as henderson

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

WhatEvil posted:

Have seen people point out on Twitter that this "Australian style deal" is also the same deal that many other countries, e.g. Mongolia have with the EU, but a "Mongolian style deal" doesn't sound so great.

"Australian style deal" isn't great in the first place - Australia doesn't need a great deal with the EU, of course, because by my judging, the nearest point in Australia to the nearest point in the EU is roughly 10,000 loving kilometres away.

Well, Europe put together as one block is their second largest export target, which is more than all of North America.
(It's absolutely meaningless compared to the total Asian market. China alone imports more than Europe.)
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/aus/

By comparison: The UK does half their trade with the rest of Europe. And this doesn't even include stock markets.
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/gbr

Those graphs are fun.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Communist Thoughts posted:

they found the mythical handsome young tory but his choice in drink is loving apalling
His best MP's preferred drink is almost as bad.

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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Communist Thoughts posted:

they found the mythical handsome young tory but his choice in drink is loving apalling

Handsome in a Ted Bundy way, sure.

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