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Maya Fey posted:the islamists are also fascists No not really plenty of islamists compete in elections and are a normal part of society and believe in elections feel free to read something sometime.
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Oct 18, 2020 20:44
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Al-Saqr posted:No not really plenty of islamists compete in elections and are a normal part of society and believe in elections feel free to read something sometime. it was just a "the yogurt is also cursed" joke sorry
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Oct 18, 2020 20:46
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keep going im bringing up the wiki article on the 1933 election
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Oct 18, 2020 20:47
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Al-Saqr posted:It was the fascists who couped the democratically elected Islamists then proceeded to jail/torture/exile all the liberals and leftists what's your opinion on Morsi, problematic overreacher or Did Nothing Wrong? and do you think had he been less heavy-handed it would have emboldened a coup anyway? i thought at the time "oh no way the military allows him to rule" but he lasted a whole year until a convenient excuse in the anti-morsi june 2013 protest were you in cairo at the time or have you been working across the sea for quite awhile?
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Oct 18, 2020 20:50
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looks like a circuit party. fewer laser lights and the music is waaaay shittier though. i'm sticking with the circuit parties https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4SNXUM0X4A
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Oct 18, 2020 21:04
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Morsi isn't really in the same league as the Syrian head-choppers. The Brotherhood has always had democracy as part of it's philosophy and program, and are semi-tolerant of heathens and heretics. They're religious conservatives, but one being in power isn't really bad enough to justify Egypt becoming a fascist dictatorship again.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:07
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anyways let's check up on iran... OH MY GAWD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4NGrjNWmwA
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Oct 18, 2020 21:09
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Morsi isn't really in the same league as the Syrian head-choppers. The Brotherhood has always had democracy as part of it's philosophy and program, and are semi-tolerant of heathens and heretics. They're religious conservatives, but one being in power isn't really bad enough to justify Egypt becoming a fascist dictatorship again. Erdogan's AKP is cut from essentially the same political cloth as the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and those guys are super not genocidal head-choppers; they just empower them!
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Oct 18, 2020 21:12
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you're a loving moron if you think the muslim brotherhood was gonna play nice once it got a real hold on power. they'd have gone the exact same route as every other "religious conservative" movement.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:18
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The Saudis and UAE backed the coup against Morsi because he was a Muslim Brother. Other Islamists like the Nour party actually supported the coup, and are still legal while the MB party has been banned.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:19
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Erdogan's AKP is cut from essentially the same political cloth as the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and those guys are super not genocidal head-choppers; they just empower them! The AKP also had a quite long period where they eased up on stamping the Kurds compared to the secular party.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:20
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genericnick posted:The AKP also had a quite long period where they eased up on stamping the Kurds compared to the secular party. yeah because they had other internal enemies to deal with in the form of gulenists and other deep state elements but guess what they're busy doing now.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:22
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Atrocious Joe posted:The Saudis and UAE backed the coup against Morsi because he was a Muslim Brother. Other Islamists like the Nour party actually supported the coup, and are still legal while the MB party has been banned. yeah no poo poo because he threatened the regional status quo ie an islamist movement that didnt have the backing of the saudis or uae but guess who the egyptian brotherhood did have the back of. oh look its erdogan and the akp.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:26
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your right, western backed "secular" dictators forever for the sand people
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Oct 18, 2020 21:29
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Erdogan and the AKP is a million times more democratic and humane to live under than the Arab fascist order and that’s saying something, you’d have to be either a complete loving idiot or insanely blind to think the MB having erdogans backing is a knock against them. Becoming more like Turkey would be an insane step forward compared to where the Arab world is currently.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:30
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better than fuckers like erdogan trying to rebuild the ottoman caliphate.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:31
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Darkman Fanpage posted:better than fuckers like erdogan trying to rebuild the ottoman caliphate. Lol you’re a stupid Bozo, also gently caress you the dictatorships of the Arab world are a loving nightmare you idiot. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 21:36 on Oct 18, 2020 |
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Oct 18, 2020 21:32
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Darkman Fanpage posted:better than fuckers like erdogan trying to rebuild the ottoman caliphate. get the gently caress out of this forum you dipshit fascist
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Oct 18, 2020 21:34
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seems ive touched a nerve! 
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Oct 18, 2020 21:36
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Darkman Fanpage posted:seems ive touched a nerve! No you just said something really stupid that’s all.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:37
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why dont you tell me to die about it
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Oct 18, 2020 21:38
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gently caress em all 
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Oct 18, 2020 21:41
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MUCHOS MAS
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Oct 18, 2020 21:46
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Turkeys secular strongmen literally annexed territory, funded fundie shitheads abroad, and organized pogroms against their minority populations all the way up until Erdogan taking power. Say what you will about him but he hasn't instigated Bozkurts shoving Alevi babies into loving steam boilers like the Darkmans military strongmen. Pretty much all of Turkey's worst atrocities happened under those freaks.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:50
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Darkman Fanpage posted:seems ive touched a nerve! [Everyone yells at me for taking a big diarrhea dump in line at Quizno's] Wow looks like everyone's mad at me for -- you guessed it! -- speaking truth to power.
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Oct 18, 2020 22:42
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Darkman Fanpage posted:seems ive touched a nerve! what is this, 2006
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Oct 18, 2020 22:43
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Al-Saqr posted:Erdogan and the AKP is a million times more democratic and humane to live under than the Arab fascist order (if you have the correct ethnicity)
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Oct 19, 2020 10:51
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I love C-SPAM alot and i disagree with al saqr on some things but he is right about the MB at least respecting democracy. Zedhe Khoja is spot on as well. Would also like to point out that Tunisian islamists and leftists worked together to also drive away a UAE/Saudi backed candidate, really puts into context how bad monarchies are that other groups would rather die than live under them.
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Oct 19, 2020 11:18
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Looks like it's raining men over there.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:12
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https://twitter.com/einbieler/status/1319238889685516289?s=21
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Oct 23, 2020 01:36
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The SDF has been begging origin countries to take back those prisoners for years. Considering the Turks and FSA set them free whenever they can I don't think its a great place for them to be held, and I really don't think the kurds are happily freeing known ISIS fighters considering how many kurds died driving them out of ne syria
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Oct 23, 2020 02:27
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That sounds like very lovely framing. The Kurds have been the most diehard ISIS enemies in the region. They have had to abandon entire prisons before because the US abandoned them to die to Turkish bombings. In the past they have lost territory so rapidly they could barely evacuate their own forces and didn't have the capacity or transport to take hundreds of prisoners with them. At that point they can either release the prisoners or execute them all.
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https://twitter.com/SamEdwardd/status/1240080109857619968
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Oct 23, 2020 15:12
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you know its bad when the Americans are whistlblowing about someone australians seem like isis
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Oct 23, 2020 15:21
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oh so when Australia does it, it's a war crime
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Oct 23, 2020 15:25
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its tantamount to war crimes, actually
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Oct 23, 2020 15:33
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as in it "tan't amount to" warcrimes
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Tempora Mutantur posted:as in it "tan't amount to" warcrimes lmao
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