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My Lovely Horse posted:Police procedural is yesterday's news, the new default mode for shows is "a group of early-mid 20s trans and/or BIPOC folks dealing with life" and Sandman is the one property that's going to intersect with it by default but also more or less coincidence. Feel like if this was true we'd have a Wicked+Divine show by now
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The Swamp Thing tax story wasn't true but was one of the most true-feeling stories I've ever encountered and that makes it slightly better than being true; I could readily accept that a state tourism incentive tax rebate program screwed up, I could even more readily accept that Warners totally hosed up trying to save what is ultimately a negligible amount of money, it was perfect
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My Lovely Horse posted:Police procedural is yesterday's news, the new default mode for shows is "a group of early-mid 20s trans and/or BIPOC folks dealing with life" Which alternate earth do you live on
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site posted:Which alternate earth do you live on The CWverse?
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Oct 24, 2020 16:03
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afaik even that only has the one trans character on supergirl
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Oct 24, 2020 16:22
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yeah but obviously that means the whole show is about the Burger King Kids Club trying to get through life, the mere suggestion of representation changed the genre from "police procedural where some of the cops can fly" to that, apparently
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Oct 24, 2020 16:28
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Titans has a trans actor but I don't remember if they ever actually said that the character was supposed to be trans.
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muscles like this! posted:Titans has a trans actor but I don't remember if they ever actually said that the character was supposed to be trans. if Jericho's gender identity or sexuality were ever addressed at all, I must have missed it
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The arrowverse had quite a few gay characters but never to the point where I would say they were "lgbtq focused" or anything. The leads in all those shows except arguably a couple seasons of legends are all just straight couples too. What a bizarre post.
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Vince MechMahon posted:The arrowverse had quite a few gay characters but never to the point where I would say they were "lgbtq focused" or anything. The leads in all those shows except arguably a couple seasons of legends are all just straight couples too. What a bizarre post. As a whole you're right, but I thought Sarah Lance was the lead for most of Legends and she's bisexual and in a committed relationship with a woman most of the time.
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Oct 24, 2020 21:00
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Skwirl posted:As a whole you're right, but I thought Sarah Lance was the lead for most of Legends and she's bisexual and in a committed relationship with a woman most of the time. I haven't watched much legends, but knew she and Constantine had pretty prominent roles in at least a few seasons.
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Vince MechMahon posted:I haven't watched much legends, but knew she and Constantine had pretty prominent roles in at least a few seasons. There's a reason we call it Captain Sarah Lance - Time Lesbian
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Oct 24, 2020 21:09
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Medullah posted:There's a reason we call it Captain Sarah Lance - Time Bi
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I know it's not required to be bisexual, but has Sarah Lance actually slept with a dude since Robert Queen's boat sunk?
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Oct 24, 2020 21:31
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She and Constantine have slept with each other, yes.
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It was a plot thread for a few episodes that Ava had some lingering anxiety over Sarah banging Constantine and then a couple weeks later getting together with her
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Oct 24, 2020 21:34
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Mr. Maltose posted:She and Constantine have slept with each other, yes. Okay, I couldn't remember, I knew they flirted, the only other people beside her main girlfriend I could remember her sleeping with was Nissa Al-Ghul and Supergirl's sister.
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Sara also slept with Ollie when she got back to Starling, and had a bit of a mutual attraction thing with Snart right before he died. Other than that it's been all ladies: Ava, Nyssa, Alex, the Nurse in the 50's, that one Noblewoman at the start of season 2, Queen Guinevere...
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Yeah, Sarah owns
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Vince MechMahon posted:I hope they do cut the DCU stuff from the show. It's honestly jarring in the book because it gets so far away from that stuff as it goes. Of course keep Cain and Able, but I don't need Martian Manhunter to show up. I wish for the audiobook they changed some of the problematic LGBT stuff that might have been progressive at the time, that are now very out of date
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What specifically? I'm not doubtful or anything it's just been a very long time since I've read the comic.
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Skwirl posted:What specifically? I'm not doubtful or anything it's just been a very long time since I've read the comic. I know AIDS in the LGBTQ community is a focus in the Doll's House.
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He doesn't do a super excellent job with the trans woman, Wanda. He could have done a lot worse but there are certain issues where I feel like if he'd had one or two frank conversations with a real live trans person in the plotting stages the story would have been quite a bit different. Ironically I don't mind the bit where Wanda can't partake in the women's ritual because the moon does not consider her a woman all that much. It's a horror comic and that's a horrific thought. It's visceral and nightmarish in a way that makes sense for the logic of the setting, a setting which is shown over and over again to be metaphysically amoral. I just think the character's death in service of a cis woman's character development is corny.
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How Wonderful! posted:He doesn't do a super excellent job with the trans woman, Wanda. He could have done a lot worse but there are certain issues where I feel like if he'd had one or two frank conversations with a real live trans person in the plotting stages the story would have been quite a bit different. Ironically I don't mind the bit where Wanda can't partake in the women's ritual because the moon does not consider her a woman all that much. It's a horror comic and that's a horrific thought. It's visceral and nightmarish in a way that makes sense for the logic of the setting, a setting which is shown over and over again to be metaphysically amoral. I just think the character's death in service of a cis woman's character development is corny. Another big thing is the that one side story with Element Girl which I've seen people say is a pro-suicide comic
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Oh shoot, we made it to page 666! Hulu's Marvel's Helstrom would be proud.
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Hail Satan and watch Sabrina I guess
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Medullah posted:I know AIDS in the LGBTQ community is a focus in the Doll's House. Isn't the audio book version still set in the 80s though?
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Medullah posted:I know AIDS in the LGBTQ community is a focus in the Doll's House. I forget if it’s mentioned in doll house but it is brought up in kindly ones, but it was not due to them being gay but a blood transfusion
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site posted:Hail Satan and watch Sabrina I guess Ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ty-iJqewqY Oh wait you probably meant the new one...
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achillesforever6 posted:Honestly Thessely kind of works if you look at her as a TERF; the element girl issue is a top 5 all time individual comic issue and its absolutely about assisted suicide in the face of unimaginable daily suffering
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to be clear “unimaginable daily suffering” does not refer to external or existential angst. it is very literal
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achillesforever6 posted:Another big thing is the that one side story with Element Girl which I've seen people say is a pro-suicide comic Like scary ghost dog said, it's an issue about euthanasia more or less, and the right for a person in agony with physically and medically and emotionally and mentally no realistic hope of ever getting better to die with dignity. I think just calling it a "pro-suicide comic" is pretty goofy and I would be surprised if anyone ever came away from it thinking, like "oh, I should go kill myself now because Neil Gaiman said I was allowed to." It's for sure one of the more meaningful comics about death I've ever read and is dealing with what it means to choose to be alive or to be dead on a different level than most comics and certainly most comics in 1990. It's really good.
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Rhyno posted:What's the best and worst comic versions of Satan? Lucifer in Lucifer, and the main Satan in Ennis' Hellblazer are probably my two favorites.
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my personal favorite is Satannish, because he definitely was named when a Comics Code guy was like "is this Satan??!" and Roy Thomas answered "well, he's Satan-ish" also because he has a second face on his tummy
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I know comic book companies can never leave well enough alone but it is still annoying that they brought Lucifer back after the ending to his solo series.
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muscles like this! posted:I know comic book companies can never leave well enough alone but it is still annoying that they brought Lucifer back after the ending to his solo series. I actually kind of liked the bizarre new vertigo series but I had to pretend it was a different reality because I loved Carey's series so much
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Skwirl posted:the main Satan in Ennis' Hellblazer are probably my two favorites. I really like how petty their relationship is. They stopped trying to kill each other and instead they decided to make each other's lives miserable. In Preacher I kinda liked how Satan hasn't been alive for centuries and no one cares. Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 25, 2020 |
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Alhazred posted:I really like how petty their relationship is. They stopped trying to kill each other and instead they decided to make each other's lives miserable. In Preacher I kinda liked how Satan hasn't been alive for centuries and no one cares. The whole premise of the Dangerous Habits arc is that John sold his soul to each of the 3 lords of hell and the First of the Fallen (Satan) had to keep him alive so they didn't have an all out war in hell. Really loved old Hellblazer
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