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babyeatingpsychopath posted:They must be continually training pilots for these things. All the guys I knew that used to fly them when they were decommed are WELL retired now. Wikipedia says they flew until 2008, so maybe there's a few pilots still around that are rated for them.
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Platystemon posted:Now see if from N768FS’s perspective. Question, the fellow in the video plays it fast and loose with the radio for a minute there (understandably so). Is that a violation of some FAA regulation or the like? Even if it is I’d assume he’d get a pass. Also, what are the consequences for numb nuts with his radio down and transponder off?
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:They must be continually training pilots for these things. All the guys I knew that used to fly them when they were decommed are WELL retired now. They've kept flying them around Nellis despite being retired. Dunno if its civilian or military pilots, it could very well be the same retired guys as civilians. Theres been many documented instances of them flying around Area 51. They're probably doing testing of radars, but of course alien technology cannot be completely ruled out 
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Warbird posted:
I bet he didn't have the volume down, he just didn't know what to say. "Yeah, we had the volume down, miss anything important? By the way I'm sorry for what I just did."
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hobbesmaster posted:They've kept flying them around Nellis despite being retired. Dunno if its civilian or military pilots, it could very well be the same retired guys as civilians. That must be a pretty sweet gig. Fly a cool plane, get out or retire, and keep flying it for testing.
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Warbird posted:Question, the fellow in the video plays it fast and loose with the radio for a minute there (understandably so). Is that a violation of some FAA regulation or the like? Even if it is I’d assume he’d get a pass. There aren't really regulations about being a cowboy on the radio. The AIM has standard procedures and phraseology, but it isn't illegal to use the wrongs words or different terms, and the AIM in fact explicitly says that you should use whatever words you need to be sure your message is understood. Brevity and regulatory compliance come second to understanding. The closest you get to a specific ruling is a line that says "jargon, chatter, and CB slang have no place in ATC communications" -- so when you hear someone pretending to be a fighter pilot and saying "no joy" instead of "negative contact" you can roll your eyes at them. But even that gets bent; I've had little chitchats with the tower while flying the pattern alone early in the morning, and you'll find plenty of examples of similar things on YouTube. If you wanna be totally picky about it, his initial startled call of "jesus christ, felt like he was right in my loving cockpit" was unnecessary, but I think everyone understands why that happened. The later call of "get it together, my friend", a minute after the incident is over, is catty and just clutters up the airwaves, and should not have been made. At least keep your finger off the button if you gotta rant. As for the other guy, a couple of things going on: - His transponder is not working. SMO is in the LAX mode C veil, so he needs both a mode C transponder and ADS-B. Not sure if this is the first circuit since they started having problems but it was a violation for him to take off if it was a known issue. - He was told to follow the Cirrus on 7-mile final, so it is his responsibility to do that. He didn't. This is a violation of an ATC command. 7 miles is pretty far out to be looking, but if you are told to follow an airplane and you don't see it, you don't just shrug and do what you want!! You report negative contact, keep flying your downwind or whatever and keep looking around. Once you report the plane in sight, tower will say something like "follow that Cirrus, cleared to land number 2." That's when you make you turn. - SMO is a class D airport where maintaining two-way radio communications is required. Turning the volume down so you can't hear the tower is a violation of that regulation. So overall the Cirrus guy has a bit of an attitude (wow, from a guy wearing a Cirrus shirt?) but the other guy probably violated more than one regulation and "we're done for the day" is about the nicest way the tower could have phrased it. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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Oct 23, 2020 17:23
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I appreciate the beakdown, thanks!
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Humphreys posted:Dammit, I was kinda hoping they were going to restore it to operational or use it to rebuild. The CNN article mixes up 2 different Ekranoplans, both of which had only 1 copy of built. The Caspian Sea Monster was the earlier one, slightly bigger, 10 engines (8 in the front and a pair on the vertical stabilizer) and severe dihedral on the horizontal stabilizer. It was in an accident and sank. The Lun class was later, smaller, 8 engines, flat horizontal stabilizer, and all the angled missile tubes on top. This is the one has sat on the water and recently towed.
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Spaced God posted:Have some F117 coming back from mysterious poo poo
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Going back a bit, but this is the most beautiful use of an Allison 1710 there ever was. That old man is a JRR Tolkien class wizard, good lord below My favorite part is that he wanted to build one. So he got the plans and called his buddy "who can build anything." Haha, hoping to get there some day.
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Sagebrush posted:
My interpretation of N5148V's situation is they were trying to fix their transponder in mid-air, so probably cycling their avionics switch. The "right way" to do that, so I've been told, is to shut everything off one by one, and then toggle the avionics switch. The radio on/off is probably also the radio volume knob. Definitely, turning your radio off or fiddily-loving around while you're in pattern is a bad idea. The right move would be to go "ok, my ADS-B doesn't work, I'm going to make a full-stop landing and fix it". But I could see how a low hours pilot could swiss cheese their way into a situation where they've turned down their radio volume / turned off their radio trying to troubleshoot the transponder.
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Rudest Buddhist posted:My favorite part is that he wanted to build one. So he got the plans and called his buddy "who can build anything." That's the dream. I want a P-51D one day. I don't need a real one, but a fake one would be good enough.
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Safety Dance posted:My interpretation of N5148V's situation is they were trying to fix their transponder in mid-air, so probably cycling their avionics switch. The "right way" to do that, so I've been told, is to shut everything off one by one, and then toggle the avionics switch. The radio on/off is probably also the radio volume knob. Good connection, I didn't make that one when first looking at the vid. This would have been the first link in the accident chain. "You know how to keep a hardon? Don't gently caress with it."
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Cojawfee posted:That's the dream. I want a P-51D one day. I don't need a real one, but a fake one would be good enough. "What machine tooling did you use for the beautiful airplane you and your buddy built in your garage?" "Tooling? ...do you mean my fingers?" Wizard.
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Cojawfee posted:That's the dream. I want a P-51D one day. I don't need a real one, but a fake one would be good enough. Titan T-51s are getting popular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BdPx-Yjy4
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Rudest Buddhist posted:Titan T-51s are getting popular 3/4 scale and an ultralight engine? How am I going to pour lead on Jerry while diving out of the sun at 400mph with an ultralight engine? Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 00:44
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If I can’t disrupt civil air at 30,000 feet, who cares?
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Safety Dance posted:My interpretation of N5148V's situation is they were trying to fix their transponder in mid-air, so probably cycling their avionics switch. The "right way" to do that, so I've been told, is to shut everything off one by one, and then toggle the avionics switch. The radio on/off is probably also the radio volume knob. and a low hours pilot doing that while also supposedly scanning for another plane, planning for the landing etc...
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Munin posted:and a low hours pilot doing that while also supposedly scanning for another plane, planning for the landing etc... Yep. Could have ended a lot worse. Hopefully it's a learning experience for 48V.
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FWIW the Cirrus also outright said "I wasn't scanning" VFR see and avoid goes both ways, even if you've been cleared for landing
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Woopsie. https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1320061604063514628
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Texan went down in a neighborhood outside of Mobile. Crew didn’t make it out. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/us/plane-crash-alabama-trnd/index.html
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Warbird posted:Texan went down in a neighborhood outside of Mobile. Crew didn’t make it out. It's an ejection-seat aircraft, the crew was most likely trying to guide it away from civilians. Luckily no civilian casualties. RIP brothers.
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With the cost being relative peanuts, why aren't airports blanketed with cameras to catch takeoffs and landings?
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Pretty pro-click video of a Skycrane pilot's POV dropping water on fires - the banter with his co-pilot and the ground crews are included as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_jd6340wwY
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Oh boy...he's really going forwards with "the oscillations are caused by turbulence in the wheel wells" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YM8DCojapI also he decided that the overheating issue is just from tuning, not having the turbochargers installed out of order like the Audi diesel engineer said, so he poked at some ECU values and called it good
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Sagebrush posted:Oh boy...he's really going forwards with "the oscillations are caused by turbulence in the wheel wells" I kept digging by reading a bunch of this thread: https://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/threads/raptor-composite-aircraft.24721/ and I completely lack surprise. The pattern of him briefly, grudgingly accepting help from people who know what they're doing only to turn on them as soon as they say things he doesn't want to hear (or begin to threaten his image with his mini-cult) is quite old. ImplicitAssembler posted:I think they totally blew the relationship by posting that video. Airport issue should have been sorted by the first visit, not the third. Sure, it was the right decision, but by that point the relationship had clearly broken down. So from the wasabi video and that giant thread I've learned that yes, the airport issue should've been sorted early, but not for the reason you think. (a) Wasabi raised the issue with him possibly even prior to the first visit, and he wouldn't listen (b) The final trip was the first time they scouted the surrounding terrain with a low level flight, because the first two visits they flew commercial into a different airport. (Why didn't they hire a local plane during one of the first two trips? Probably because inspection and ground test were revealing way too many problems to even attempt a first flight, so no need to spend Peter's money on that until it was time.) (c) prior to scouting, they thought the highway and possibly some parts of the terrain might be marginal places to land, but seeing things from the air revealed zero viable options for a forced off-field landing immediately after takeoff (d) during that third trip, the builder's lovely amateur ECU tune (he watched some webinar and decided he was an expert tuner afterwards, LOL) caused an engine shutdown during taxi tests, a failure mode which the builder knew about, but thought was no big deal (e) they also were not feeling super confident about the prop speed reduction unit, turbos, or cooling (f) due to all the above and countless other non-powertrain things, their evaluation of the airport progressed from 'marginal, keep prodding Peter about it' to 'hard no' Fortunately, Peter at least listened to that part of their advice. Which makes it a little weird that he also fired them for it.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:With the cost being relative peanuts, why aren't airports blanketed with cameras to catch takeoffs and landings? To get anything more meaningful than the current parking lot cameras catching pixelated views of crashes, you’d need a camera with enough zoom to matter. Probably at LEAST a 5x, which wouldn’t cost peanuts. Also, it now doesn’t cover the entire field of view you wanted, so it will either need an operator, or some way to automagically track moving targets; Again, not cheap. Now at most fields, there’s probably only one place you can mount these things (you’re going to need more than one) so that they can see the entirety of all runways, and that’s the tower. Which is owned by the federal government. The FAA, specifically. Anyone familiar with FAA equipment procurement (or government procurement generally) will immediately understand that this is an absolute non-starter. Also, at the end of the day all you’ve done is obtain video of plane crashes and incidents. Perhaps one in twenty will contain any information that couldn’t be easily obtained from the aircraft itself, or from interviews of pilots, controllers, and witnesses. It’s just a ton of work and ongoing maintenance to capture video of rare events that we don’t really have a hard time analyzing anyway.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:I also think y'all selling him short Not really.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:I've been following this project for about 2 years or so. He's always been engaging with the comments and people have offered solutions, constructive criticism, etc...except over the last 6 months, it's turned into the usual youtube comment poo poo and I think that, along with the stress and frustration with the project has him reacting in this manner. He is going to die in that airplane.
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A comment so dumb Godholio had to dunk on it twice.
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Godholio posted:He is going to die in that airplane.
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After reading his saga the only question left is when is his family going to upload the memorial video to youtube.
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"My name is Juan Browne, and you're watching the blancolirio channel. Today we have a video on the recent raptor prototype crash.."
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Midjack posted:Not really. The whole thing reminds me of the R101 insofar as it's like the dude doesn't know to hedge his changes in this brand new to him aircraft building thing
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Godholio posted:He is going to die in that airplane. Or next to it after being thrown clear in a crash.
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^^^  Godholio posted:He is going to die in that airplane. Nah. He could also die on the ground next to the plane. Or in the ambulance. Or at the hospital. Really there’s many possibilities.
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