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There was also a long period of time where everyone was holding the titles belts already buckled like they were props that couldn’t be altered. Nobody wore them, nobody had them unbuckled, etc. The most anyone did was put an arm through the belt so it would be on their shoulder.
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The only proper way to carry a belt is the Dickbelt as demonstrated by the Holy Emperor Taichi
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Oct 25, 2020 17:29
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Pope Corky the IX posted:There was also a long period of time where everyone was holding the titles belts already buckled like they were props that couldn’t be altered. Nobody wore them, nobody had them unbuckled, etc. The most anyone did was put an arm through the belt so it would be on their shoulder. it seemed like it was "dorky" to wear a belt around yr waist in the attitude era. someone who actually WORE a belt was a nerd like kurt angle or something. yeah everyone had them up on their shoulders, its kinda weird tbh, im glad that was a short trend.
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Oct 25, 2020 17:31
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NikkolasKing posted:Do Vince and Shane McMahon count? If you think they count, they count. I don't consider them wrestlers, personally, but if you do then they would obviously qualify given the giant chasm between their characters and their "work". Maybe a better way to ask it would be something along the lines of: when did people start really caring about "work" as opposed to just stories being told? Was it when publications dedicated to wrestling became a thing? I would think it was before the internet, but I definitely don't recall thinking about it in the late 80's/through the 90's. I say that as someone who never actually followed said publications at any point.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:I've recently watched the Raven/Page feud on the network and outside of NWO drama, it's the most featured feud. I was really surprised how much TV time and creative freedom WCW gives Raven, considering he probably had very little political power backstage, he managed to get himself featured heavily. The creative midcard guys got a decent amount of freedom. Think about how little Bischoff thought of Jericho and how much time and freedom Jericho got. Then look at a guy who was feuding with DDP, who had a ton of pull.
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Because giving a poo poo about things like 'belts' or 'anything' wasn't cool in the attitude era.
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Oct 25, 2020 19:48
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shiksa posted:the other example that pops to my mind of someone dragging a belt to the ring is naito when he was trying to destroy the IC belt so you have a point lol Undertaker's first, brief reign he dragged it to the ring, but it fit his character. Pope Corky the IX posted:There was also a long period of time where everyone was holding the titles belts already buckled like they were props that couldn’t be altered. Nobody wore them, nobody had them unbuckled, etc. The most anyone did was put an arm through the belt so it would be on their shoulder. It was a way to do a close up on the wrestler and have the title in the same frame
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Xerzes posted:Disco Inferno My favorite Disco match is at the Toryumon vs. T2P show in 2002 where he teamed up with Magnum Tokyo because they were both dancing gimmicks and he looked completely lost trying to keep up with a Toryumon six-man spotfest.
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shiksa posted:it seemed like it was "dorky" to wear a belt around yr waist in the attitude era. someone who actually WORE a belt was a nerd like kurt angle or something. yeah everyone had them up on their shoulders, its kinda weird tbh, im glad that was a short trend.
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Oct 25, 2020 20:48
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MassRafTer posted:Goldberg vs Scott Steiner is better than Goldberg vs DDP work wise and a much different kind of match. Goldberg vs Saturn is very good, and everyone on this forum went nuts for Goldberg vs Brock Lesnar at Mania a few years ago. The ladder match with Scott Hall is also very good despite the goofy gimmick. The Raven and Hogan matches are both great smoke and mirror matches. The ladder match with Hall is a solid PPV-quality match. Not a classic or anything, but it's pretty good. Is that the longest match of Goldberg's career? The other matches... eh. They're typical Goldberg matches. Ten minutes or less, and carefully crafted to work around Goldberg's limitations.
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I feel like complaining about a guy like Goldberg having a similar style of match every time is like complaining that Schwarzenegger plays the same character in every movie: it's technically true, but like... it's also what the audience is there to see, so can you really say it's wrong to provide it?
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Gaz-L posted:I feel like complaining about a guy like Goldberg having a similar style of match every time is like complaining that Schwarzenegger plays the same character in every movie: it's technically true, but like... it's also what the audience is there to see, so can you really say it's wrong to provide it? rujasu posted:Look, I liked Goldberg I agree with "Goldberg was one-dimensional but he was really good at that one dimension" but he could have been even better and had a longer run if he had been a better worker
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Being a "good worker" is about doing cool moves and acting like a badass. Goldberg did two awesome moves and acted like the biggest badass on Earth, so I'd say he was a really great worker!
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Would Goldberg have put in a fifty minute eight star match with Okada? No. He would have beat him in less than five moves because he was a big old badass
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rujasu posted:I agree with "Goldberg was one-dimensional but he was really good at that one dimension" but he could have been even better and had a longer run if he had been a better worker I think two of the worst bookers in history are more the problem for his longevity.
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My favorite is when they grab the belt by the end and drag it. It shows they're to cool to hold it and they're just lugging it along looking for their next fight.
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Goldberg was loving cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw8Gc1dvZNw&t=54s And grey-faced wrestledad Goldberg coming back and Goldberging Brock Lesnar was the loving coolest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLTVHfHV8g&t=273s
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Has there ever been an angle where an underdog wins the title but is struggling to lug it around because of its heft?
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davidbix posted:As weird and childish as WWF Magazine could be pre-Russo, the people who staffed it before his tenure were at least nominally legitimate writers and whose work read nothing like his output. Hiring someone whose main qualification was "wrote infamously bad columns for a short-lived newsletter that were only notable for how many complaints his business partner received," even for WWF magazine, first as a writer and then as an editor, was...kind of weird. I've never researched the other WWF Magazine staffers, but I know that when I was researching my WBF article for FSM, I learned that they had hired a former Playgirl editor as the Bodybuilding Lifestyles/WBF Magazine editor in chief. So in the same era, they were definitely looking towards experienced magazine types under normal circumstances. It doesn’t matter much, but by the time of its closing in the early 2010s, WWE magazine was run by professional writers who had experience at Maxim, FHM, and other men’s periodicals. It wasn't amateur hour.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:My favorite is when they grab the belt by the end and drag it. It shows they're to cool to hold it and they're just lugging it along looking for their next fight. Brodie Lee dragged the IC belt like it was a burlap sack full of body parts.
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Coaaab posted:Has there ever been an angle where an underdog wins the title but is struggling to lug it around because of its heft? Didn’t Daniel Bryan say in his book that because of his shoulders at the time, doing the YES chant with both belts really was hard to do?
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A friend of mine has recently gotten in to wrestling and this weekend he expressed the opinion of "I'm not in to women wrestlers because they're not as good. I'm not saying they can't be, but so far I haven't seen it." I'm not very familiar with women's wrestling, so I'm asking for recommendations to show him. The main things he likes about wrestling is acrobatics and death matches. So what is a women's match I can show him that is 1)Either very flippy or very bloody 2)Relatively short(sub 20 minutes) 3)Available for free
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Takuan posted:A friend of mine has recently gotten in to wrestling and this weekend he expressed the opinion of "I'm not in to women wrestlers because they're not as good. I'm not saying they can't be, but so far I haven't seen it." Megumi Kudo vs Combat Toyoda is probably the best women's death match, the video is long but the match itself is a bit over 20 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdMiVV_fnQ Women's matches tend not to be very flippy. There are just rarely women who do lots of flips the way men do, you are much more likely to see really stiff strikes. I'm not sure who I'd list as the most spectacular high flyer right now or a match that really jumps out at me for high flying compared to striking. Takumi Iroha for example jumps out because she does a bad rear end swanton, but it's on top of also doing lots of fantastic kicks and general bad assery. But like, a swanton isn't a crazy move these days, but it stands out in the match with Mayu Iwatani because the bigger woman who has been destroying the smaller woman then busts out the most impressive flying move of the match too. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Takuan posted:A friend of mine has recently gotten in to wrestling and this weekend he expressed the opinion of "I'm not in to women wrestlers because they're not as good. I'm not saying they can't be, but so far I haven't seen it." OK, I'm far from an expert in Joshi, more of a dabbler, but if he likes death matches then the first name to come to mind is Rina Yamashita. She's had an excellent 2020, including doing death matches. This is the match that made me aware of her, Rina vs Rise Sera in Ice Ribbon from August. The video quality is pretty crap but the other video I found didn't include her getting rid in on a motorcycle & I feel like that's important to include. It's a King of FREEDOMS Tag Team title match with Rina tagging with Minoru Fujita against champions Mammoth Sasaki & Violento Jack, it's a very good tag hardcore match, but it is intergender & that can be iffy for some people. After that match Rina proves her toughness & Minoru gives her an Unchain t-shirt, inviting her to join their group & her reward is a tag team Glass Board Death Match, Fujita & Rina against Jun Kasai & Masashi Takeda, 2 of the best names in death match wrestling. Unfortunately that isn't online yet as far as I can tell, which sucks. To go a bit more classic Joshi Combat Toyoda vs Megumi Kudo from FMW in 1996. It's Toyoda's retirement match, they've been rivals for years & oh year, it's a No-Rope Exploding Barb-Wire Death Match in front of 30,000 fans in one of those baseball stadium shows FMW would do. If he gets anything from that, well, FMW is a good place to look for women's death matches. It's not what you asked for, it's neither bloody or flippy but Aja Kong vs Manami Toyota from All Japan Women's Tokyo Dome show is 17 minutes of war & it is generally regarded as one of the all time best women's wrestling matches. If you want to see what the best of women's wrestling can do then just show your friend this. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Can anyone tell me where the "famous" Jeff Jarrett "I'm sorry.... sorry I didn't do it earlier!!" came from and is there a clip of it somewhere? Was it even Jeff Jarrett? I mean, I'm sure it's been used a number of times by god knows how many different wrestlers but I have this distinct (possibly false) memory of Jarrett doing it and it cracking me up big time.
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Takuan posted:A friend of mine has recently gotten in to wrestling and this weekend he expressed the opinion of "I'm not in to women wrestlers because they're not as good. I'm not saying they can't be, but so far I haven't seen it." The greatest women's wrestling match of all time. Hokuto vs Kandori - https://youtu.be/sXTvuuHg43A
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BrigadierSensible posted:Why is nobody mentioning Umaga and moufbelt? Imagine how many steroid back pimples that specific part or the belt has touched
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:The greatest women's wrestling match of all time. I saw this link, smiled, ordered the Dangerous Queen reprint on Hardway, then watched the match again for the millionth time it's so good
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Deathlove posted:I saw this link, smiled, ordered the Dangerous Queen reprint on Hardway, then watched the match again for the millionth time I didn't check the link properly and I posted the wrong match. I meant to post their Dreamslam bout - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18hjfi
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why does dexter lumis look like michael cole's face on heidenreich's body?
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And why does that glove look Photoshopped? He should be holding a fork like Goldberg in the Nitro Grill menu.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Imagine how many steroid back pimples that specific part or the belt has touched I'd rather not thank you
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Halloween Jack posted:And why does that glove look Photoshopped? He should be holding a fork like Goldberg in the Nitro Grill menu. His hand looks incredibly small compared to the rest of him. It's really bizarre.
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sk posted:why does dexter lumis look like michael cole's face on heidenreich's body? More like a young Stunning Steve with a mustache.
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What do they do with the vanity belts that are no longer in use? Like the weed belt or the smoking skull belt? And where is the million dollar belt now anyway?
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Probably sitting in that warehouse filled with all the other cool stuff they don't use anymore like the custom PPV sets
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Nystral posted:What do they do with the vanity belts that are no longer in use? Like the weed belt or the smoking skull belt? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pnwqhUm3Rc
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sk posted:why does dexter lumis look like michael cole's face on heidenreich's body? Oh gods he's their child. Heidenreich what the gently caress did you do!
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sk posted:why does dexter lumis look like michael cole's face on heidenreich's body? I hate you so much for making me picture Heidenreich/Michael Cole mpreg slashfic. I hate me so much for typing that sentence.
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