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Hey let's just talk about One Piece instead!The Shame Boy posted:I wonder how 4Kids would have handled Thriller Bark They would have changed the zombies into people who weren't actually dead, just magically cursed or something and when Luffy beat Moria they would go back to normal and be fine lol
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Oct 26, 2020 02:12
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Augus posted:loling at just how quickly it took after someone jokingly said "hey how about we go back to Zack Snyder discourse instead" for someone to immediately reply with their essay dismantling the tyranny of the Snyder haters I thought it was funny how soon after I published a new article about Snyder it was that this thread had a relevant derail I could post it in. e: Fair enough, conversation over.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:12
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josh04 posted:If you want to exclude me from your personal horse and carriage the ignore button is readily available. Get over yourself man, I don't know that I've seen a single post of yours outside of this thread lmao e: One Piece is good Oh wait, I actually do recognize you, you compared my not liking a scene in BvS to being a fascist, gently caress off Arist fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 02:13
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i think a good general rule that might make these derails less intolerable might be that, if you're going to talk about fans of something, you should be specific about whether you're talking about goon fans of it or about the broader fandom of it. one thing i've noticed is that the goon fandoms for particular pieces of media tend to kinda be their own Galapagos of sorts, isolated from the rest of the fandom. usually this means the goon fandom and the non-goon fandom are operating at very different levels of toxicity; this seems to be the case with Snyder, and I can definitely say I've seen it be the case with Rick & Morty and Steven Universe, both of which have legendarily bad fandoms and yet also have pretty chill goon followings (like, a R&M animator posts over in the TVIV thread for it, which would be basically loving unthinkable in any other place that discusses the show because nobody would ever want to touch that poop). this is generally a good thing, because it means if you like something with idiot jackass fans, SA is probably a good place to talk about it that's free of those idiot jackass fans. BUT there's also a lot of people here who just flat-out don't engage with fandoms of stuff outside of SA, and it more or less inevitably leads to... exactly this, where someone craps on the greater fandom of the thing being discussed without specifying that they're talking about non-goon fans, and then a bunch of goon fans go "HEY WHOA WE'RE NICE THOUGH." e: actually, another good example of goons being the Good Fandom for a thing while everyone else sucks rear end would be Berserk, SA is basically the only place I've seen Berserk fans congregate where it didn't immediately turn into a parade of rape jokes WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 02:16
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Augus posted:do people just not understand where the sealioning thing came from
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Oct 26, 2020 02:17
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josh04 posted:But again, this is a weird technicality that doesn't matter to people who want the Snyder cut - there was no rift within the 'movement' upon finding out that Snyder was getting to do reshoots or w/e. The people who care about this distinction, such as Dan Olson who made a whole video about it, are people who are not interested in the film being released. He says right in that Snyder cut video that he would be really interested in seeing the Snyder Cut, especially if it was only a work print. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pGlYF3xLrM&t=777s He point was that for reasons of ego and finance, a full finished movie release seemed impractical. Apparently that issue was solved with all the turnover and restructuring from the AT&T takeover so yeah, plot twist, time makes fools of us all. It doesn't sound like he'd find it to be a "good" movie, but it's not like any of us live or die on some bearded, bell-wearing, bear bait Canadian's disapproval. I never asserted there was a rift in the movement or whatever this is. It sounds like there were some people who thought there was a mostly complete movie ready to mass-burn to DVDs, some people who thought Snyder should be allowed to come back and "finish" his movie, and some people who would've been pleased with whatever rough state his prints were in. The bigger point here is the unifying conviction it would be a superior movie to what we got, but was suppressed or undermined for X/Y/Z reasons before. And like yeah, I'm sure a lot of people will be pleased with whatever comes out, but the anti-hype I'm seeing is all in the vein of "Oh god how can this work without it collapsing in on itself" every time another new character is confirmed to be added to the reshoots or whatever. It's not some simmering outrage that a corporation is feeding fans what it wants, or that his is the sign of some great moral defeat letting Snyder direct something again. josh04 posted:I don't think you need me to turn up people suggesting that Snyder's film are trojan horses for Randianism, the idea Snyder has in some way pulled the wool over WB's eyes is implicit in all the monocle-dropping social media posts about the size of the reshoot budget, and the idea that the reshoots were a fantasy that the fans were being led along with was floated around the time Snyder was giving out reshoot slates as competition prizes - I don't have a citation for that one. This slate? https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2491127/zack-snyder-justice-league-fan-contest-just-revealed-an-epic-prize That would've been around the time he was in private talks about coming back but before the official announcement in May 2020, right? I'm not really surprised at people dismissing the promises on the slate as implausible when even up to mid 2019 Warner Bros execs and Snyder both seemed to think a full release of his filmed footage was unlikely. In that context, stringing along fan's hopes like that may have been iffy, but it obviously he knew some stuff back then that nobody else did.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:20
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Seriously tho, this thread really does need an IK imo.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:24
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https://twitter.com/MyKreal/status/1319063082300329985
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Oct 26, 2020 02:27
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CharlestheHammer posted:The Snyder cut feels like one of those things the internet hypes op up as a huge event....only to release and it turns out no one cares Ah, so it's like Serenity for the 2020s.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:29
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I watched the Lindsay Ellis video about Addison Cain trying to get lawyer-y on her, and my god, it's beautiful. 
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Oct 26, 2020 02:30
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Jamie Faith posted:Seriously tho, this thread really does need an IK imo. It really doesn't. Two pages of people discussing Zack Snyder barely blips on the radar. Your Modern Warfare discussion was substantially worse than any Snyder debate I saw in the past year or whatever I've been reading these threads.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:31
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Yeah the whole gimmick of this thread is that it constantly derails into talking about stuff that has nothing to do with discussing e-celebs. We really do not need somebody in here handing out a shitload of sixers because people won't stay on topic.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:32
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IronicDongz posted:I'm well aware and it's not the situation here. for the record I don't like synder but I'm not gonna be weird about people who're happy that a synder thing is coming out someone made a joke about how tedious Zack Snyder discourse is and instantly someone kramered into the thread to post their essay about the tyranny of the Snyder haters and then demand everyone debate them. I don't give a poo poo if you like his movies or not, it's loving annoying when simply saying the words "Zack Snyder" summons people out of the woodwork who are jumping out of their seat to engage in a multi-page derail arguing about Zack Snyder. Shut the gently caress up about Zack Snyder
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Oct 26, 2020 02:34
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a small amount of posts about a director you don't like isn't a big deal, actually
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Oct 26, 2020 02:36
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that dude posting his medium essay was insanely funny tho
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Oct 26, 2020 02:37
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Sydin posted:Yeah the whole gimmick of this thread is that it constantly derails into talking about stuff that has nothing to do with discussing e-celebs. We really do not need somebody in here handing out a shitload of sixers because people won't stay on topic. It's not about being "on topic," it's about staying off "this topic," which "sucks rear end."
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Oct 26, 2020 02:39
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Ariong posted:It's not about being "on topic," it's about staying off "this topic," which "sucks rear end." On the other hand arbitrary gatekeeping of what topics are allowed because they don't "suck rear end" is loving terrible.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:40
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Nuns with Guns posted:It really doesn't. Two pages of people discussing Zack Snyder barely blips on the radar. Your Modern Warfare discussion was substantially worse than any Snyder debate I saw in the past year or whatever I've been reading these threads. It's not just this derail by itself. It's the fact that we keep having this derail. The exact same convo. Over and over and over again. With everyone repeating the same talking points we've heard already. At least with CoD, I learned my lesson and never brought it up again.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:40
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Alaois posted:that dude posting his medium essay was insanely funny tho Anyway, Good Bad or Bad Bad has a nice Halloween treat with Ghost Trap.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:40
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This is a thread for discussion of online critics, that poster is an online critic and he posted his work in response to someone literally asking for posts about Zack Snyder. edit: Anyway, I'm very excited for whatever video Jenny Nicholson has cooking up about the Vampire Diaries. I remember watching that show in high school and it just went completely off the rails. Metis of the Chat Thread fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 02:40
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lunar detritus posted:the quarantine is slowly killing brian david gilbert Wow! This video was great! Thanks to Brian's easy-to-follow tips, I earned up to $20k a month while working from home, making my own hours, and being my own boss. And I now own two mandolins!
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Oct 26, 2020 02:52
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Jamie Faith posted:It's not just this derail by itself. It's the fact that we keep having this derail. The exact same convo. Over and over and over again. With everyone repeating the same talking points we've heard already. At least with CoD, I learned my lesson and never brought it up again. I'm not keeping careful tabs on the twists and turns of every Snyder Discourse in these threads, but the last one I remember was centered more around Maggie Mae Fish's videos, and specifically on her analysis of his interpretations on Dawn of the Dead and Superman. This one has been about the Snyder Cut. I guess there's a running vein that the Snyder fans here feel unfairly maligned or that Snyder's being incorrectly read as a crypto-fascist, but I don't know the only time I've seen any of them flip out here is when someone goes in aggro first. I'm sure it was much worse before BravestOfTheLamps was permabanned from SA, but all the derails I've seen here have just been goofy-dumb rather than painful to read.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:53
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Nuns with Guns posted:I guess there's a running vein that the Snyder fans here feel unfairly maligned or that Snyder's being incorrectly read as a crypto-fascist, but I don't know the only time I've seen any of them flip out here is when someone goes in aggro first. which ties into what I said earlier. people go in aggro on SA because they're used to dealing with twitter rear end in a top hat Snyder fans. Snyder fans on SA, however, are largely not even aware of the twitter assholes, so they assume they're being talked about and get defensive. this leads to the former group acting like gigantic assholes to the latter, while the latter group is mostly just incredibly confused.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:58
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In conclusion, the Snyder fan base is a land of contrasts
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Oct 26, 2020 03:02
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lunar detritus posted:the quarantine is slowly killing brian david gilbert I loving love BDG and this made me realize I missed some videos so that's how I'm spending the rest of my night.
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Oct 26, 2020 03:07
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Jamie Faith posted:In conclusion, the Snyder fan base is a land of contrasts oh no
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Oct 26, 2020 03:14
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:(did anyone see Bloodshot and actually remember a single moment of that movie 5 minutes after it was over?)
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Oct 26, 2020 03:17
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Junpei Hyde posted:oh no roflmao
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Oct 26, 2020 03:17
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The main deleted scenes are ones with Luke and Biggs before Luke meets the droids, Han meeting Jabba, and some extra space stuff against the Death Star. Wow, I never realized that the entire idea of the Death Star attacking Yavin was added during the re-editing process 
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Oct 26, 2020 03:20
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Junpei Hyde posted:oh no Wasn't that the subtitle for the Breadtube thread right before that was killed? .... man you know you think this was dire but at least an iteration of this thread has never been bumped off after genocide denial discourse started.
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Oct 26, 2020 03:22
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im sorry what
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Oct 26, 2020 03:25
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Nuns with Guns posted:Wasn't that the subtitle for the Breadtube thread right before that was killed? Wah...what?  Which genocide and who was denying it?
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Oct 26, 2020 03:25
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Junpei Hyde posted:im sorry what https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3882331&pagenumber=155#post499264467 Jamie Faith posted:Wah...what? The Uyghur genocide by the Chinese government 
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Oct 26, 2020 03:35
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Ugh, tankies.Skippy McPants posted:The Internet Personality thread in RGD serves mostly the same purpose and generally less poo poo. The fact that they even cited our dinky thread as the less poo poo alternative is just 
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Oct 26, 2020 03:43
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Well, that thread was meant to be a spin-off of this one with a greater focus on political content, but if went down the shitter right-quick.
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Oct 26, 2020 03:45
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Jamie Faith posted:Hey let's just talk about One Piece instead! I think they just would have taken the old man with a wound joke literally and all the zombies would have been reframed as crew members who were on strike because of poor osha compliance. Sydin posted:On the other hand arbitrary gatekeeping of what topics are allowed because they don't "suck rear end" is loving terrible. But I do have to agree here. I hate snyder, starwars and spec ops chat but a ton of posts telling people to shut up and stop talking about things make the thread even worse
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Oct 26, 2020 03:57
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Nuns with Guns posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3882331&pagenumber=155#post499264467 I realize this is a cold take and a at the same time but I'm always confused at how hardcore lefties can hold up China as an example of an ideal socialist state.something something at least they don't have MCU movies. mycot fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 04:01
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The same way pro-life conservatives can vehemently support the carceral state and oppose welfare programs. Cognitive dissonance is by no means the exclusive domain of the right.
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Oct 26, 2020 04:11
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One of the issues this thread might be having is that barely any movies are coming out, meaning there's a lot less to talk about, so we just keep going back to the same wells.
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Oct 26, 2020 04:20
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mycot posted:I realize this is a cold take and a to my understanding, from basically the end of mao's tenure in power to the beginning of xi's, china was both genuinely arguable as a socialist state and a decent enough place to live. on top of this, the USA has a way of painting any country it's at odds with as an unstable shithole that nobody would ever want to live in. this has created an awkward situation where the main people pointing out "hey xi jinping has hosed the living hell out of china" are the ones most hardcore lefties want to ignore and oppose out of hand, despite all objective evidence pointing to the USA actually being correct on this one for once, and their preconceived notion of china as "not great but totally OK" ends up holding instead.
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Oct 26, 2020 04:24
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