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Has anyone used the TOW pre-order process? I'm tired of going to IST and having things sell out in 5 minutes.
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Nyeehg posted:I'm a fan of Damian Wayne and read a lot of stuff with him before i just fell out of comics to deal with life. Now that i have time I'm not sure what to read next(if anything). He was in a few issues of Tomasi's Superman that was basically a prequel to Super Sons, it's in the trade titled Trial of the Super Son.
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Oct 9, 2020 20:39
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Skwirl posted:He was in a few issues of Tomasi's Superman that was basically a prequel to Super Sons, it's in the trade titled Trial of the Super Son. Thanks but i already read that. Forgot to mention that as i always think of that as a Johnathan Kent book.
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Oct 9, 2020 23:54
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Nyeehg posted:I'm a fan of Damian Wayne and read a lot of stuff with him before i just fell out of comics to deal with life. Now that i have time I'm not sure what to read next(if anything). He's been cool in DCeased (I forget which book- there was a new issue this week). The latest Teen Titans run hasn't been bad. Damian being a huge jerk while the rest of the team is being adorable is more entertaining than I would have guessed.
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GOD IS BED posted:He's been cool in DCeased (I forget which book- there was a new issue this week). The latest Teen Titans run hasn't been bad. Damian being a huge jerk while the rest of the team is being adorable is more entertaining than I would have guessed. Huh. I somehow missed the fact that DCeased has had 3 follow up series so thanks for pointing that out. I've enjoyed Tom Taylor's other stuff so I'll be sure to read them. Will give the most recent Titans run a go. Thanks for the reccommendations.
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If I didn't enjoy Moore's Neonomicon, should I give Providence a try? or is it too similar to Neonomicon?
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radlum posted:If I didn't enjoy Moore's Neonomicon, should I give Providence a try? or is it too similar to Neonomicon? I just finished it, boring, gross, pedophilia, and incest. How did this even get published?
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Oct 11, 2020 23:28
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Washout posted:I just finished it, boring, gross, pedophilia, and incest. How did this even get published? Avatar Press.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:30
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I recently signed up for Marvel Unlimited and have been digging into some of Marvel's offerings for Horror comics. So far I have read Al Ewing's run Immortal Hulk which was amazing, R.L. Steine's Man-Thing run, Most of the Marvel Zombies runs, The Wolverine Weapon X Insane in the Brain arc, and the Ghost Ride Hell-Bent and Heaven Bound series. What are some good series/arcs/issues I can read for some Marvel Horror? Open to any style of horror comics.
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Oct 15, 2020 19:16
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Der-Wreck posted:I recently signed up for Marvel Unlimited and have been digging into some of Marvel's offerings for Horror comics. So far I have read Al Ewing's run Immortal Hulk which was amazing, R.L. Steine's Man-Thing run, Most of the Marvel Zombies runs, The Wolverine Weapon X Insane in the Brain arc, and the Ghost Ride Hell-Bent and Heaven Bound series. It's more horror adjacent than straight horror, but I really enjoyed the original Moon Knight series. Also the 1975 Son of Satan book. The original Lee/Ditko Dr Strange stuff is pretty good too, again not straight horror. It starts in Strange Tales #110. It'll have the Human Torch on the cover, but it has 2 stories, one Human Torch story and one Doctor Strange tale
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Oct 15, 2020 19:34
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If you're open to 70s stuff, the Wolfman/Colan run on Tomb of Dracula is a classic.
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Oct 15, 2020 19:50
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Awesome, thank you both! Added all that to my reading list. I'm open to anything. Just trying to read as much as I possible can.
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If you're open to any kind of horror, I'm a big fan of the short comics Ditko does in the various anthology books. Tales of Suspense, Strange Tales, etc. They're not EC style horror and they're not just monster books, but they play really well to Ditko's strengths as a creator. Usually short little morality tales with the bad guy (who is often the protagonist) getting his due. Also take a gander at anything Don Heck did from that era. Dude was a good cartoonist when you kept him away from superhero books. Matt Fox is another guy who shows up once in a while - I'm a huge fan of his work, he has a really unique art style that is perfectly suited to short, dark, stories. Kirby is also throughout those books but he does adventure stories more than anything else. If you're going back to the 70s, Frankenstein is pretty solid, and just in general Val Mayerik did pretty good horror work. I'd also recommend Tom Sutton's stuff. He draws really gross monsters. You'll see him in anthologies, on Man Thing, and I believe on Werewolf by Night. Werewolf by Night sucks but has some interesting ideas. But largely it sucks. And TW on this one for being a really weird metaphor for sexual violence (don't read the spoiler if you're willing to take your chances, as the dawning realization of what this story is about is the most interesting part of it), but I'd recommend reading a particular story in Chamber of Darkness #1 called "Mr. Craven Buys His Scream House".
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Very cool, I'm really interested in seeing what the 70's had to offer in terms of horror comics. Looking forward to reading these.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this since it's a sort of two part question. You know how Daredevil has two or three "definitive authors" who people think of and recommend? Who is a definitive author for The Punisher besides Garth Ennis? Because around ten or so years ago Ennis was the one and only writer you got suggestions for when it came to Punisher. But it seems to me Ennis' stock has dropped a lot in the last five or so years. Maybe I just talk to different comic boo k fans ut I see a ton of haters for him now. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Oct 16, 2020 |
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Oct 16, 2020 07:16
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NikkolasKing posted:I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this since it's a sort of two part question. I can't fully recommend him because he's a Comicsgater chud, but Chuck Dixon was the Punisher writer in the 90s, before Ennis came along.
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Oct 16, 2020 07:31
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It's not as definitive as like Miller or Bendis on Daredevil, but Matt Fraction's run on Punisher before, during and after Civil War was pretty good.
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Oct 16, 2020 07:36
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Rick Remender wrote Frankencastle, the best version of punisher.
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tbh i dont tknow that there is a second definitive run on the punisher. not in the ennis "you have to read punisher max" way anyways. there are some good runs in there, ive been doing a slow read of all the punisher stuff because im broken rucka's run from the punisher 2011 that get relaunched as war zone v3 2012 is solid work and probably one of the best of the "serious" attempts at punisher besides ennis. i know im in the minority and this is a bit of a hot take but i also did enjoy much of rosenbergs recent post-hydra run, which because of the stupid legacy numbering starts at the punisher 225-228 2018, then relaunches as the punisher 1 2018. a lot of people enjoy the goofier stuff people have done with him, 2099, remender's run starting at dark reign continuing up to franken-castle, the space punisher mini, i think cosmic ghost rider (who is also the punisher) is pretty funny abnett's 1994 mini punisher - year one is both good on its own and some good connective tissue to the original comic. which brings me to my final suggestion, ive been going through the original books, starting with the 1986 mini circle of blood and then moving into the 1987 ongoing, and id actually recommend reading them if you're into the punisher. its interesting to see both the creators and the character himself not really sure what to do with the punisher at the beginning. baron takes a while to get a feel for him so you get to see frank go through changes personality wise and even at times question whether he should even be doing what hes doing, its kinda refreshing to see a version of frank that isnt that standard fare that pretty much every writer has done for the last couple decades site fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Oct 16, 2020 |
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For the opposite question, what’s everyone’s favorite cameo of Punisher in other comics?
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lifg posted:For the opposite question, what’s everyone’s favorite cameo of Punisher in other comics? He's good in Brubaker's Daredevil where Matt's been publicly outed and arrested. And the bit with Spider-Man absolutely no selling it when Punisher hits him in the face.
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Der-Wreck posted:I recently signed up for Marvel Unlimited and have been digging into some of Marvel's offerings for Horror comics. So far I have read Al Ewing's run Immortal Hulk which was amazing, R.L. Steine's Man-Thing run, Most of the Marvel Zombies runs, The Wolverine Weapon X Insane in the Brain arc, and the Ghost Ride Hell-Bent and Heaven Bound series. Quoting this again because Marvel Unlimited just added the 1993 Daimon Hellstrom book "Hellstrom, Prince of Lies" to their back catalog. I can't speak to its quality but I remembered trying to find it earlier in the year and it wasn't on Unlimited, didn't have a trade available and I also couldn't find it in the less reputable parts of the internet. In general it's worth glancing at Unlimited late in the week, they used to have both the new books and any older back catalog stuff uploaded on Monday, but along with being more inconsistent with uploading older stuff, they've started doing it later 8n the week, so if you're only looking on Mondays you'll miss it entirely.
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Skwirl posted:Quoting this again because Marvel Unlimited just added the 1993 Daimon Hellstrom book "Hellstrom, Prince of Lies" to their back catalog. Sweet! I got the first issue in a random multipack in the 90's and have always wanted to read that story. I was actually looking for a digital version a couple months ago. Looks like it will be on comiXology next week. I, also, cannot comment on the quality as I was 12 when I read only one of the issues.
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lifg posted:For the opposite question, what’s everyone’s favorite cameo of Punisher in other comics? Not a comic but https://youtu.be/8XoRGgpF2qc And it's Ray Stevenson
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Uthor posted:Sweet! Apparently issue 12 is Warren Ellis' first comic for Marvel, because of loving course.
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lifg posted:For the opposite question, what’s everyone’s favorite cameo of Punisher in other comics? not technically a cameo but the war of the realms strikeforce one shot    
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Thank you for the recs, everyone. I might start with Year One. Seems like a logical place. I never read any of Punisher Max, Ennis' or Aaron's, because I like Frank in Marvel 616. Lotta folks I talked to back in the day said Punisher "belongs" in a world without supers and that is more down-to-earth, and I just didn't and don't agree. One of the first things I ever saw with Punisher was Spiderman TAS where he had the Battle Van and Microchip and, ya know, fought Spiderman some. By all means, take down mobsters, that can be cool. But it's also cool to have him drive to the border with Venom and then try to blow his head off. But maybe I'll add some Max stuff to my long, long list of stuff to read.
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max isn't the best because there aren't any supers, it's because it's really good
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Watch out for Frank in Superior Foes of Spider-Man!
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lifg posted:For the opposite question, what’s everyone’s favorite cameo of Punisher in other comics? Runaways.
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There's a bunch of Hickman FF for sale on comixology. I've never read any FF, but have heard pretty much only good things about his run. However, I'm sort of hot and cold on Hickman so far (I found HoX/PoX to have too much worldbuilding and not enough story, enjoyed the first four trade paperbacks of East of West, and bounced off Manhattan Projects after the first trade paperback). Is it worth checking out given that?
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Hubbardologist posted:There's a bunch of Hickman FF for sale on comixology. I've never read any FF, but have heard pretty much only good things about his run. Yeah, the world building is there but not as much as in later stuff he wrote and he's really good at mixing in more humanising smaller stories in between the big stuff, make sure it includes both his Fantastic Four and Future Foundation though, and you'll need to find a reading order eventually, but at first you just read Fantastic Four, then it becomes very obvious when you switch to Future Foundation (Future Foundation replaced Fantastic Four completely for a while) then you need to start reading both.
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Typed out a whole post but in talking about why I I liked it I couldn't help but end up in spoiler territory, so I'll just say yes it was good and there isn't too much worldbuilding like most of his other material
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There's definitely some worldbuilding stuff, but it's not excessive. He does a great job of keeping the stories focused on the characters except when necessary.
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Alright I'm sold. Y'all owe me money if I hate it. jk thanks for the advice!
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Is Moon Knight worth a read, and if so where should I start? Saw news about Oscar Isaac playing him in the MCU and that's the first character I really know nothing about
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Azhais posted:Is Moon Knight worth a read, and if so where should I start? I've never read his original '70s comics, but they are supposed to be good, with nice Bill Sienkiewicz art. My favorite Moon Knight is the six-issue run (all stand-alone stories) by Warren Ellis (who is kind of a persona non grata these days), collected in the From the Dead TPB.
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Azhais posted:Is Moon Knight worth a read, and if so where should I start? The old stuff is great, but like above most people are going to recommend Warren Ellis' very short run. It kind of rebooted the character in a sense. My recommendation though is the Jeff Lemire/Greg Smallwood run. I believe that's better than Ellis' run but it builds on it. Honestly If you read the Warren Ellis & Brian Wood & Cullen Bunn volume (2014, 17 issues) and The Jeff Lemire volume (2016, 14 issues) that's probably where a lot of show is going to come from I'd bet.
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The old Moench/Scienkiewicz stuff has some spectacular art. Issue 9
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I agree, definitely the original Moench/Sienkiewicz series. Yeah, it's transparently knockoff Batman, but it's good knockoff Batman.
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