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Sorry about the delay. Today's my birthday, and I spent it like I spend every birthday, leaving my human host and slipping into a pool of stagnant water so I can photosynthesize under the light of my home sun. But I'm back now. Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 13 quote:1:48 P.M. See, it does cover that they were in their morphing outfits. quote:The heat sucked every ounce of moisture out of us. It was as bad as any desert. You’d think with all the greenery there would be water everywhere. But no. The actual ground under our feet was dry. Fair enough. quote:I listened for sounds of Ax. Nothing. If you don't actively hate ants by the time this series is over, I wonder about you. Chapter 14 quote:2:30 P.M. No, Jake, it's two completely unrelated North American Grey Wolves. quote:Looking closer, I could see that they had been in a fight. There were cuts. There was blood. They began to demorph. It's a very understandable sentiment. It also answers the question of whether this is Costa Rica or the Amazon, as they don't live in Costa Rica. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Oct 25, 2020 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 18:43 |
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Happy birthday!
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 06:35 |
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Happy birthday! Thank you!
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:01 |
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I forgot how horrifying this particular book is.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:16 |
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quote:<They’re after him!> Tobias called down from above. <Ax has six Hork-Bajir on his tail! You happy now, Jake? Ax-man! Look out! Behind you!> quote:“This is the rain forest?” Rachel demanded angrily, spitting water and combing through her hair for any remaining ants. “This is the rain forest everyone wants to save? Ants and piranha and snakes and bugs the size of rats? Well, as far as I’m concerned they can burn it down, pave it over, and put up malls and convenience stores!” Also, Synesthesian Fetish posted:Happy birthday!
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 07:18 |
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Shwoo posted:I wonder if the Yeerks see Earth the way the Animorphs see the Amazon. That makes a whole lot of sense.
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 08:20 |
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FlocksOfMice posted:I don't think I ever really liked the Ellimist and whatever the guy with the C name were up to--the original story as presented gave them a lot of concrete, down-to-earth consequences, stakes, and enemies, and introducing cosmic horror beings into it, for me, escalated it into a realm of "okay, wait, really?" Those are the most realistic parts of the book. The entire series being a result of a pissing match between two assholes who will never face any consequences for their actions, who are completely untouchable by dint of the power they wield over the ones who actually fight their war is like....America.txt
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# ? Oct 24, 2020 22:26 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 15quote:3:09 P.M. I love Ax quote:“Well, I’m relieved you’re okay, Ax,” I said. “We haven’t been doing very well.” Jake's flashback confession aside, I want to remind everyone that Ax's plan is to seduce a monkey so that the Animorphs can steal it's DNA. I love Ax. quote:Rachel rolled her eyes as if to say, “What next?” Cassie looked concerned. Marco looked like he was trying to find a joke in the situation, but was too tired to come up with anything. A lot of this book is Jake mentally flagellating himself for screwing up, so far. Chapter 16 quote:3:40 P.M. So, to summarize this chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6CFTMnYa4 At least we know what's going on now, and they have a goal and a plan to get back. Whether it will work or not....
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# ? Oct 25, 2020 00:11 |
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Dumper Humper posted:Those are the most realistic parts of the book. The entire series being a result of a pissing match between two assholes who will never face any consequences for their actions, who are completely untouchable by dint of the power they wield over the ones who actually fight their war is like....America.txt ... ffffffffffffffffffffffffUCyeah that's a really good point.
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# ? Oct 25, 2020 01:44 |
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That theme is repeated down through several different layers, too. The battle for Earth is just a small, sacrificible part of the Andalites' war against the Yeerks, and the Andalite-Yeerk War is just one conflict in the Ellimist's duel with Crayak. Towards the end you even get the Animorphs creating their own disposable pawns in the auxiliary Animorphs.
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# ? Oct 25, 2020 08:42 |
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"gently caress the rainforest now that I've had direct experience with it" really reminds me of that one early South Park episode which probably came out around the same time as this book edit - OK this book was September '97 and the South Park episode was April '99 but close enough
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# ? Oct 25, 2020 13:18 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 17quote:4:23 P.M. We've all been there, man. quote:The Hork-Bajir leader once again drew his Dracon beam and aimed for me. I do see Visser Three as the person who hits "respond all" to office wide announcements. quote:The human-Controller turned several shades lighter than his natural color. “We … we … we we we were following your orders, Visser. To destroy any animals that don’t belong here because they could be the Andalite bandits.” This is a very crisis of leadership book for Jake. Chapter 18 quote:5:25 P.M. Should ask Ax. He's the one with the Almanac. But, if you're curious, over 400 tribes live in the Amazon rainforest, so its not surprising she doesn't know who these guys are. quote:“I don’t think they like us,” Rachel said. “But they don’t look like they want to kill us.” So as long as the headman uses a Portugese cognate of one of the fifty words that Marco knows, they're fine. Actually, there's another option. There's Ax. I mean, I assume Ax doesn't speak English, being an Andalite and all, which means the Animorphs must understand his thought speak as English and he understand them the same way. So, then, wouldn't the tribesmen understand his thought speak in their native language? quote:“So they did see us morph,” I said. I nodded at the man. “Yes. Espírito macaco.” Yes, I was a monkey spirit. That's sweet. Cassie is the most emotionally intelligent of them, and she cares for him, so she knows the right thing to say.
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# ? Oct 26, 2020 00:36 |
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Huh, unsurprisingly I had always remembered the line about the trees' deaths as coming from Cassie, not Jake. That line was one of the things that stuck with me my whole life and made me more sympathetic to trees, which, I guess as we're finding out, are basically plant wizards that trade with one another across fungus internets, so that's neat.
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# ? Oct 26, 2020 02:51 |
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drat, I finally got the graphic novel of Invasion and while it is basically a shot for shot retelling, it is a really gorgeous and evocative one. The art style is so good for shifting gears instantaneously between the light hearted goofs, the dark themes and body horror, and the emotionally devastating parts like Jake realizing what Tom is and Tobias getting trapped. Would highly recommend. I'm not even that into comics, but it feels like the visual adaptation I wish I had when I was a kid. The kids are really cutely animated and the realistic animals give the battle scenes a little bit of a different feel. I really like how he differentiates the thought speech with different colors based on who's speaking. The artist did an interview on an Animorphs podcast I've been listening to and he seems like he's really trying to be faithful to the source material. I think he definitely succeeded.
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# ? Oct 26, 2020 07:48 |
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https://twitter.com/graphixbooks/status/1320757100725833729?s=21 Visser Three living his best life
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Soup du Jour posted:https://twitter.com/graphixbooks/status/1320757100725833729?s=21 How many controllers lost their limbs/lives helping him get into that?
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# ? Oct 26, 2020 23:28 |
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There's a second drawing to go along with that one: https://twitter.com/chrisgrine/status/1320838256670482433
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# ? Oct 27, 2020 00:02 |
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They are cute! Chapters coming soon.
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# ? Oct 27, 2020 00:23 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 19quote:6:49 P.M. Put it that way, it seems unlikely. quote:“The jaguars are predators,” Cassie pointed out. “That means senses adapted for hunting in the rain forest. They would be able to find the Yeerks, if any animal could.” Just wanted to say, I love Ax and Marco. Chapter 20 quote:7:05 P.M. Right. Doesn't really surprise me that Cassie is mission focused. quote:<Yes, ma’am,> I said. It seems to me that if Visser Three is trying to recreate the accident that brought them there...the Dracon beams from the blade ship and the bug fighter hitting, he'd want to line them up near each other to make it happen. Right?
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# ? Oct 27, 2020 02:05 |
True, but it also screams ambush.
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# ? Oct 27, 2020 03:58 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:True, but it also screams ambush. How many times do our heroes not walk into an obvious ambush?
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# ? Oct 27, 2020 13:53 |
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I'm drunk and it's my birthday and I just want to say thank you OP, you and the Chad-virgin Harry Potter-animorphs meme really rekindled my love for this series. Especially since my library didn't have all of them when I was younger, you're the best
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Terror Sweat posted:I'm drunk and it's my birthday and I just want to say thank you OP, you and the Chad-virgin Harry Potter-animorphs meme really rekindled my love for this series. Especially since my library didn't have all of them when I was younger, you're the best You're welcome!
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 02:51 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 21quote:7:36 P.M. Good for him! This is really a conversation he should have had with them before. quote:<Oh, man,> Marco groaned. <Jake, you can’t lose it, man. We need you.> So, it WAS a trap. But more importantly, i think we're seeing Jake, who's been stressed and second guessing himself the entire time, finally sort of snap.. I really am enjoying Jake's struggles with leadership here. I've complained about him as a character before; that he's too much of an everyman, that he's bland, that he doesn't have much of a personality, but I think this is the first book where he really has his own voice, even if it is the voice of a BIG HONKING GOOBER! We have two chapters left, so just one chapter tonight, and then tomorrow we'll finish the book.
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 03:02 |
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quote:<They fit right in,> Marco said. Haha, I wonder if that was intentional foreshadowing, Applegate remembering that line and adding the bit about the Taxxons in the Amazon in the last book, or just a bit ol' coincidence.
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 05:27 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Haha, I wonder if that was intentional foreshadowing, Applegate remembering that line and adding the bit about the Taxxons in the Amazon in the last book, or just a bit ol' coincidence. Haha omg. I also remember that line about Jake being the only real one there reallllllly messing with me as a child. It was my first introduction to weird postmodern-esque reality-might-not-be-trustworthy things.
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 05:30 |
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Yeah this is the first of several Jake-is-all-alone books spread across the series
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 05:33 |
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Jake confronting the others with why he is expected to have all the answers and make all the calls is long overdue. None of them asked to be thrust into the Resistance, but he especially didn't ask to lead it.
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 05:37 |
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OK now I remember why this book is neat even though, you know, in the long run, it's forgettable. Ax telling Jake maybe he's the only real one and the implication that this is because the rest of them get killed in this timeline is a real moment of frisson. And also sort of foreshadowing for 18 when they're vanishing one by one until only Ax is left
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 10:06 |
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Apparently Applegate and Grant are exiting the movie due to "creative differences." Shocking, perhaps not, but with their departure, I have zero faith in this adaptation being in any way good
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Apparently Applegate and Grant are exiting the movie due to "creative differences." Oh boy, AniTV 2.0 here we go. I had no faith in this thing from the get go, and Applegate and Grant know a hunk of garbage when they see it, so this is gonna be a real trip if it even makes it to production.
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# ? Oct 28, 2020 20:17 |
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Apparently Applegate and Grant are exiting the movie due to "creative differences." That's disappointing, but probably not surprising. I don't always have a lot of faith in film adaptations of books, especially in the type of books these are.
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 01:16 |
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Book 11: The Forgotten-Chapter 21quote:8:00 P.M. So, he's basically just got to watch his friends get eaten because of a bad choice he made and know there's nothing he can do about it. quote:<Hmmm,> Visser Three said. <Just five little Andalites inside my craw. That leaves one still free. But don’t worry. Plenty of time to find you.> Well, now that Jake's dead, that's the series, everyone. Hope you liked it. Oh, another chapter... Chapter 23 quote:8:19 P.M. So, that's the book. Like I was saying earlier, the thing that impressed me when I I read it is that its sort of about the nature of leadership, and especially, about Jake's doubt about his own leadership. A lot of it was also about anxiety, and Jake second guessing himself. What did you all think of it, both the book, and about Jake's internal struggles? Tomorrow, we start Book 12, The Reaction. It's a Rachael book.
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 01:32 |
It's interesting that it uses a tired device to teach Jake a thing or two about leadership.
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 01:56 |
Also I can't help but picture that thing as a Malboro.
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 01:56 |
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This is a good Jake book, and kicks off a whole string of them that are about his leadership and the tolls they take on him that are all really solid. There’s a sad bit here where Jake finally does point out that he never really asked for leadership but due to the nature of everything he’s the only one who’ll remember it, so the team never learns from it. And he’ll just internalize it all going forward!
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 02:12 |
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Normally I hate "haha and none of it really happened!" stories but I still like this. It lets Jake feel the full consequences of "this is what happens when you screw up and you actually full on die" which doesn't really teach him as much of a lesson so much as it teaches him "being an animorph sucks." I really thought the resolution was more clear, solid, something, though, thinking about the book. It just kinda... resolves a bit unceremoniously doesn't it?
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 02:26 |
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I never cared for it as a kid, but reading it now I'm better able to see it's leadership themes so I like it a little more.
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# ? Oct 29, 2020 02:45 |
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I feel bad for Tobias in the new timeline. He discovered the crashed bug fighter, did the recon, got the whole team together....just for Jake to say, “nah let’s not”.
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FlocksOfMice posted:I really thought the resolution was more clear, solid, something, though, thinking about the book. It just kinda... resolves a bit unceremoniously doesn't it? It does end on a hopeful note, saying most of all a good leader needs to be lucky, like Elfangor was, until his luck ran out and he died. Wait, no, that's not hopeful at all.
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