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signalnoise posted:How much can silly putty be reused anyway? Or do people just buy lots of silly putty as a disposable resource like liquid mask? Lots, and it's cheaper than dirt at the dollar store. Once you get more control n you'll have to mask off less anyway.
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I'm not sure, I only just learned of the trick ~2 months ago when I got my airbrush. And I haven't needed to do it very many times. So long as the paint is dry, the putty doesn't seem to lift it at all, so... presumably it's good for a very very large number of uses.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Lots, and it's cheaper than dirt at the dollar store. This helps me, thanks. There are apparently many things out there that seem like a fairly annoying expense just cause the way to do it cheap is not immediately obvious
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Oct 28, 2020 13:31
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You can mail-order 5 lbs. of Silly Putty from Crayola for about $100, but buying small batches at discount stores makes much more sense. I’ve had to bulk order a lot of weird stuff for my job...
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Oct 28, 2020 14:40
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Just to be perfectly clear, Silly Putty is a different type of putty than, say, Blue Tack or Uhu White Tack, right? I use those to stick figurines on a cork and sometimes to mask and they seem to work fine. Is Silly Putty just easier to work with?
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Oct 28, 2020 16:33
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Silly Putty is a children's toy that does not especially stick to other objects, it just kinda globs up on itself. So you just drape it around whatever part of the model you're protecting and then peel it off effortlessly after. I'm not sure what would happen to it if you left it out overnight. You don't really want to leave it exposed for especially long periods of time because dust and dirt and hair will get stuck in it and make it gross. Leaving it on a model while you airbrush a coat or two or five is fine. And it's really not like blue tack or anything like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_Putty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2WT7vdyGqE here's an add from 40 years ago that demonstrates its malleability  edit: Basically think of like, cookie dough crossed with bubble gum except you really shouldn't put it in your mouth. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 28, 2020 |
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Oct 28, 2020 16:38
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Silly putty doesn't stay stuck if you forget it. I used blue tack once and it was a living nightmare, don't use that.
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Oct 28, 2020 16:50
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Only just realized the reason why my starter model look so thick and clouded and the features are just getting covered up to hell is because I haven't been doing an extremely basic thing: thinning my paints. Have watched like a dozen vids now explaining "wtf you will ruin things by just using paint dollops straight up" so at least I now understand what I was doing wrong. All this time I assumed the watered down paint was just for a wash but apparently yes, not thinning paints will obscure all the features. Getting over the beginner hump slowly but surely! At least now I have two basic Reaper miniatures (a necromancer and a werecrocodile) coming tomorrow to practice better technique on.
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Oct 28, 2020 16:51
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Sab669 posted:Silly Putty is a children's toy that does not especially stick to other objects, it just kinda globs up on itself. So you just drape it around whatever part of the model you're protecting and then peel it off effortlessly after. Silly putty will sorta slough off and get everywhere if you leave it out. So if you have a ball sitting on your desk, in a day or two it turns into a puddle.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:06
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Well, sure, I'd expect it to sag and lose its shape, but it doesn't really harden or stick, right? It'll still be as malleable as it was a day prior?
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Oct 28, 2020 17:14
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Oh yeah it's plenty malleable and not sticky. I only know this because someone at work left some on a coiled up cable and it sorta "melted" in between the cord.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:21
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Spanish Manlove posted:Silly putty will sorta slough off and get everywhere if you leave it out. So if you have a ball sitting on your desk, in a day or two it turns into a puddle. Silly putty is a non-Newtonian fluid, so it becomes stiff when handled but soft when left alone. It's actually pretty interesting. It can also be purchased as "Thinking Putty" in a variety of crazy colors and in larger quantities. As for airbrushing details, I do a lot of details with my airbrush, with and without masking. Order of operations is important but so is understanding the spray pattern of your brush and how to manipulate it. The spray from your brush comes out in a cone shape, and disperses as it travels from the nozzle to the painting surface. This means that the closer you get your nozzle to the painting surface the smaller and more precise your spray pattern becomes. This comes with a tradeoff though, as you get closer your spray pattern gets more dense, more paint is hitting the surface in a smaller area which leads to the paint not drying on contact and getting spiderwebs or lumpy surfaces. To compensate you need a combination of lower pressure and more delicate control of the trigger to reduce the flow of paint, and as you lower pressure you'll also need to thin your paints more to compensate. It's a balancing act that takes a lot of practice to get right, I still struggle with it, but when I get everything dialed in I can paint very fine details even with my Patriot 105, like ork teeth or purity seals, and hairfine details with my Sotar. What I would suggest is practicing on paper. Get hold of some semi-gloss printer paper or even better index cards and practice spraying lines and dots of different thickness, from different distances and with different pressures. Work on trigger control. Experiment and learn to identify the spray patterns that appear when you use too much or too little pressure. You will be surprised how quickly this improves your work.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:23
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Speaking of airbrushes, fine details, and proximity... My Master airbrush is dual-action but recently it seems to behave more like a single-action airbrush with a very binary "Air Only" press or "Full Fuckin Blast" when I pull back on the trigger. Did I reassemble it incorrectly, or is this likely because I bought a lovely $30 Chinese airbrush?
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Oct 28, 2020 17:27
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Thanks for the clarification on Silly Putty guys. They don't sell it under that name over here but I'll look at "dollar stores" and I'm sure they'll have a perfectly good rip off.
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Oct 28, 2020 17:33
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signalnoise posted:This helps me, thanks. There are apparently many things out there that seem like a fairly annoying expense just cause the way to do it cheap is not immediately obvious the dollar store is also generally the cheapest place to get all your basing materials - moss, rocks, crushed glass, hot glue sticks, mod podge, PVA... it really helps to check there first before you buy anything at the craft or hobby store
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Oct 28, 2020 17:40
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Sab669 posted:Speaking of airbrushes, fine details, and proximity... My Master airbrush is dual-action but recently it seems to behave more like a single-action airbrush with a very binary "Air Only" press or "Full Fuckin Blast" when I pull back on the trigger. having a lot of experience with semi-good chinese crap, but not specifically airbrushes: probably a little of both
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Oct 28, 2020 17:41
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Sab669 posted:Speaking of airbrushes, fine details, and proximity... My Master airbrush is dual-action but recently it seems to behave more like a single-action airbrush with a very binary "Air Only" press or "Full Fuckin Blast" when I pull back on the trigger. Could be your needle is not properly seated in the nozzle, or something else in the nozzle is blocking paint flow until the needle is pulled back far enough.
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Oct 28, 2020 18:36
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Definitely not a blockage issue, with the slightest pull it just immediately and entirely explodes, like a goon on prom night
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Oct 28, 2020 18:40
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Sab669 posted:Definitely not a blockage issue, with the slightest pull it just immediately and entirely explodes, like a goon on prom night Then it sounds like the needle isn't properly seated in the nozzle, or perhaps the needle and the nozzle are mismatched in some way, perhaps one is damaged. Not to ask a dumb question, but just in case, the pointy end of the needle is facing forward correct? Having the blunt end of the needle in the nozzle would have a binary flow effect.
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Oct 28, 2020 18:53
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Yea the needle is definitely facing the right way  The tip is slightly bent, but I can't imagine that'd cause this sort of issue?
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Oct 28, 2020 18:54
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A bent tip on it's own wouldn't cause it, but it could be that the bent tip is a symptom of or a cause of some other damage.
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Oct 28, 2020 19:38
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Sab669 posted:Yea the needle is definitely facing the right way
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Oct 28, 2020 19:40
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Liquid masking fluid is just liquid latex, and since it's Halloween season, you can buy quarts of it at places like Walmart or Target for like $10
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Oct 28, 2020 19:42
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I finished up the punching fists for my Kastellans (forgot to take photograph the second set and the light's terrible now). Added some more chipping on the legs too, for balance. I've never really painted larger humanoids, it was an interesting change of pace to have so much more area to work with (and being forced to add detail to it). The cybersmith is in my forge world colors, didn't really feel like doing anything really fancy with him. 
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Oct 28, 2020 19:46
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Sab669 posted:Yea the needle is definitely facing the right way I had a master airbrush and that guy gave me a ton of issues as well. Gonna bet on a combo of the bent tip and just the airbrush itself. Badger patriot has been substantially more reliable
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Oct 28, 2020 19:50
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Silly putty doesn't stay stuck if you forget it. I used blue tack once and it was a living nightmare, don't use that. Confirm ! I used blu-tac on a textured surface (internal from of an MG Gunpla kit) and finally decided the last bits that were never coming off were weathering". I'll try some thinking putty because tape definitely needs an assistant.
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Silhouette posted:Liquid masking fluid is just liquid latex, and since it's Halloween season, you can buy quarts of it at places like Walmart or Target for like $10 And if you do it on November 1st it will be like a dollar a quart.
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it's worth noting that a lot of specialist equipment manufactured in china these days is delivered cheaply by having no failsafes so like if an expensive piece of equipment would have had a little guard to keep you from tightening down that bolt any further, the cheap one will let you tighten it until you bend components or shear parts right off i can tell i already hosed up my cheap airbrush and i'm pretty sure it was on reassembly after cleaning, lol
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Dienes posted:And if you do it on November 1st it will be like a dollar a quart. this is going to be the loving year to get hobby cruft from halloween clearance on the cheap, given that half of america isn't trick or treating
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Mirthless posted:it's worth noting that a lot of specialist equipment manufactured in china these days is delivered cheaply by having no failsafes so like if an expensive piece of equipment would have had a little guard to keep you from tightening down that bolt any further, the cheap one will let you tighten it until you bend components or shear parts right off  sup dummy buddy  I unscrewed the "ABSOLUTELY DO NOT UNSCREW" (obviously not labeled such, but they should be!) screws on my pressure regulator thinking that was what needed to come off to attach the brush holder-mount thingy.
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I really like my bluetac. I've used the same batch for close to 7 years and half of it's still untouched. The chunks I've keep re-using have less tackiness, but are still going strong.Sab669 posted:Is this effective for large flat surfaces, or does it still pool? I've hair-brushed on contrasts over metallic primer and the results usually look awesome, but I haven't tried airbrushing contrasts yet. Friends, when you're applying an acrylic onto a flat surface it will always pool unless you've take steps to break the surface tension or you work with very thin layers. An air-brush helps you get thin layers, so you should be good, but don't get aggressive because it-will-pool. Alternatively take measures to lower surface tension and then spray away.
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I bet you could swish some paint and flow improver in your mouth and spittle spray it into a flat surface it could look ok. Our bodies are the greatest tool we'll ever own. Really makes you think.
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My experience doing details with ink is that low pressures don't let it spray properly and I can't ever get it to not splatter if I'm spraying close, as if there's a minimum distance required for drying. This may or may not be due to my Badger 105 shooting out gobs of ink at once though.
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Sab669 posted:
Seems I had two problems here, first problem was that I was overtightening things which was putting too much tension on the needle and the second was that the foam block I was sticking my airbrush into was slightly pushing the needle up. The nozzle is made of the cheapest, softest metal so it's got a very small dent in the side now as a result. If I look the needle dead on and adjust it for a little while I can eventually get to the point where I see it lines up on all sides and then it seems to work but I'm clearly gonna have to either replace this piece of crap or replace the worst components of it real soon I wonder if I couldn't just buy a badger needle and badger nozzle and get away with it? Those seem to be the real problems with my fengdu airbrush Eej posted:My experience doing details with ink is that low pressures don't let it spray properly and I can't ever get it to not splatter if I'm spraying close, as if there's a minimum distance required for drying. This may or may not be due to my Badger 105 shooting out gobs of ink at once though. I wonder if there are any accelerants you can add to inks like with oil paints? I'm having trouble finding something on a quick google search but I didn't look very hard If you wanted to suffer for the hobby you could probably run a space heater and a dehumidifer next to your work area, it'd probably get you a little closer to the model but ugh Mirthless fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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USA Airbrush Supply is having a Halloween sale +13% off with coupon "HALLOWEEN2020" Patriot 105 by itself is $88 not quite Badger Birthday sale prices but still pretty reasonable.
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Bucnasti posted:USA Airbrush Supply is having a Halloween sale +13% off with coupon "HALLOWEEN2020" Might not take a loving year to deliver like badger, either.
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Bucnasti posted:USA Airbrush Supply is having a Halloween sale +13% off with coupon "HALLOWEEN2020" Ahhh, fuckit, $88 shipped is good enough I was really just buying the AS-186k when I ordered my OG airbrush anyway so it's not like I ever expected it to be an incredible performer, the $10-30/pack-in airbrush has come a long loving way since the early 2000s though to be sure. as a brief cspam aside: every new generation of cheap chinese crap scares the hell out of me because it represents an exponential increase in infrastructure over the previous generation before it; while our government bickers over orange man and flails at china over intellectual property rights, we gradually lose the ability to build complicated things, and china is gradually getting to the point where they can outproduce us in every industry at one-fifth to one-tenth the cost. 
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I heard some dummy left a full pot of Mechanicus Standard grey open overnight and now needs to go get another one. What a dummy. Not me of course, I would never do that.
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Are there any good guides on how to decant paint from GW's lovely pots into a dropper bottle? After trying out some vallejo paints I'm hooked on them.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Are there any good guides on how to decant paint from GW's lovely pots into a dropper bottle? After trying out some vallejo paints I'm hooked on them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISS4CYV2rg4 Haven't tried it but it should be as easy as "add a little flow improver to help get it moving, then just pipette paint from Container A into Container B"
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