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TwoPair posted:The real question is how long til some poo poo writer has Joker kill that family? It'll happen before 2022 I'm willing to bet. It will be in a mediocre event, maybe the Joker steals all of Batman's information and to show it, he goes and does it.
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Mr Hootington posted:It isnt just a jealous rage. He sees the waynes as a symbol of the system and society that has kept him poor and broken. He lashed out at an injust system. It's stupid all the way down, really.
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Oct 29, 2020 04:09
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"take a chill pill,,, Mr Wayne" Joe CHILL IS T H E C H I L L E R
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Based on the art and the original publication dates, I'm convinced the Three Jokers was originally meant to be pre-crisis, post-crisis, and new52, and that would be the thing to make Batman realize that somebody has been loving the universe, leading to Doomsday Clock. But then something went sideways, Joker was being used in Metal, and Doomsday Clock was ramping up and contracts had to be fulfilled, and they had to come up with something else to resolve the Three Jokers. I don't know, I haven't looked into it, but it's certainly what makes the most sense to me.
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Oct 29, 2020 05:54
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So that vat of chemicals creating the Joker wasn't a fluke? You can just drop anyone in there and they'll become some semblance of the Joker? What is this vat of chemicals even supposed to normally do and why has nobody looked into shutting this poo poo down?
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Speaking of vats of chemicals and toxicity, which one of these was Harley with?
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Vince MechMahon posted:Which of the three Jokers is the one that thanked the guy for helping him escape by offering to let him gently caress his rear end? Cause unless that comes up, no, it's not as bad as Smith. I think that was Bendis I think the worst thing Smith did the Big Two superheroes was adding a rape backstory to Felicia Hardy
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OnimaruXLR posted:I think that was Bendis What? That was definitely Smith in his lovely Batman series. Bendis has wrote very little Batman. He also gave Karen page aids, and made speedy a child prostitute.
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stratdax posted:Based on the art and the original publication dates, I'm convinced the Three Jokers was originally meant to be pre-crisis, post-crisis, and new52, and that would be the thing to make Batman realize that somebody has been loving the universe, leading to Doomsday Clock. Post the Button I was convinced that the plan would be that the Question (who had this new origin that he did something to piss all the God’s off that they removed his identity) would be Roserach, one of the Joker’s would be the Comedian and they’d find a way to fold the other Watchmen characters into the DCU.
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McCloud posted:It's stupid all the way down, really.
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Oct 29, 2020 11:41
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Still pissed they didn't reveal Mad Hatter as the fourth Joker.
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bobkatt013 posted:What? That was definitely Smith in his lovely Batman series. Bendis has wrote very little Batman. He also gave Karen page aids, and made speedy a child prostitute. It's still lovely but Smith created Mia, he didn't retcon anything there.
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The Question IRL posted:Post the Button I was convinced that the plan would be that the Question (who had this new origin that he did something to piss all the God’s off that they removed his identity) would be Roserach, one of the Joker’s would be the Comedian and they’d find a way to fold the other Watchmen characters into the DCU. I thought that was Phantom Stranger?
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Skwirl posted:I thought that was Phantom Stranger? No the Phantom Stranger was Judas Iscarriot, complete with a chain made out of 40 pieces of Silver. The Question was someone who the gods erased all the identity of. Which (the theory went) was for the crime of not bowing down to Ozymandius' plan.
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OnimaruXLR posted:I think that was Bendis No it was Smith. In the same issue he had Batman piss himself.
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Codependent Poster posted:There's no point to this story. It ruins the whole "we don't know the Joker's real backstory' to "well now they were all real except now one is really for sure the answer but that's fine because you don't know his name!" "It doesn't matter who the Joker is. But here's an ending that gives him an identity, history, and motivation anyway." - Three Jokers Wasn't it implied the backstory in The Killing Joke was just how he was remembering his past on that particular day anyway?
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The Question IRL posted:No the Phantom Stranger was Judas Iscarriot, complete with a chain made out of 40 pieces of Silver. He should have looked into a higher-return investment vehicle because that's only like 0.0144% compounding over the ~2000 years.
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Johns seems to be on this weird 70s suburban family kick. It was in Doomsday Clock and then here as well. I don't really know what it means, I just know it means...something.
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Oct 30, 2020 13:58
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Is this the end of Johns authored books at DC?
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Is this the end of Johns authored books at DC? The rumor mill said he might be on hiatus. It's assumed because of the impending bomb Ray Fisher is going to toss at his feet.
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Rhyno posted:The rumor mill said he might be on hiatus. It's assumed because of the impending bomb Ray Fisher is going to toss at his feet. I hope I never see his name on a book again.
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Same. I’ve long stopped caring for his writing and the Ray Fisher accusations make it worse
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stratdax posted:Based on the art and the original publication dates, I'm convinced the Three Jokers was originally meant to be pre-crisis, post-crisis, and new52, and that would be the thing to make Batman realize that somebody has been loving the universe, leading to Doomsday Clock. Which, like, that's two characters in the same decade and they don't even touch on the Man who Laughs look. I agree that the resolution to the story is dumb as gently caress. Confirming that Joker knows who Batman is and then somehow that Killing Joke wife knew her hubbie was psycho and the benevolent order of good cops saved up for her to go awol was bad, but how the gently caress does the continuity work anyway? Killing Joker happens and then he goes and makes some mobster Old Man who Laughs Joker and just chills for a few years?
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FilthyImp posted:What's weird is that the original pitch seemed to be Killing Joke, Death in the Family, Nu52 Undercut Joker. They don't actually say who made who.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Is this the end of Johns authored books at DC? He's in this strange "important" writer stage and sort of not? It reads like Bendis had to write around Johns' Doomsday Clock things in his Superman run.
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Yannick_B posted:He's in this strange "important" writer stage and sort of not? It reads like Bendis had to write around Johns' Doomsday Clock things in his Superman run. Well, he was co-publisher so was running the show in a sense. He has since been fired so I wonder if he will stick around as just a regular ole writer in a company perhaps hostile to him
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Well, he was co-publisher so was running the show in a sense. He has since been fired so I wonder if he will stick around as just a regular ole writer in a company perhaps hostile to him If he doesn't have anything announced yet I kinda doubt it. Plus they've got Snyder for their big event type comics now.
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Vince MechMahon posted:They don't actually say who made who.
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The killing joke origin doesn't fit that,not does Batman learning that origin so quickly let the comedian be second. If the criminal was the secret Mastermind of the red hood gang that line makes a little sense.
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I was working on a checklist so I can see what my subscribers what to get for Future State. I didn't realize that most of the books are going to be large pricey anthology books which, uhh, always do poorly historically. I personally like that format but it makes things a much harder sell. Slapping an extra four bucks and two more stories on the Batman book I want to actually read just makes it easier to skip. I am glad this is all going to be returnable, but at the same time I am not really interested in a bunch of books that are pricey and hard to sell at the slowest time of the year. Two bad months are not what anyone needs, and DC certainly can't afford bad numbers with the way AT&T is looking at them. Just... gently caress. It's bad.
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Batman #251 is the transition issue i think.
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It’s going to be great when the CHUDs use Future State as an example of diversity not selling.
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is this Future State stuff just repackaged 5G pages that were already in the can before DiDio was fired or something?
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Yeah, absolutely. I guess they sank enough work into it they decided to dump it out and pray people care.
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Karma Tornado posted:is this Future State stuff just repackaged 5G pages that were already in the can before DiDio was fired or something? It's like everything is reboots or alternate futures now christ.
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Karma Tornado posted:is this Future State stuff just repackaged 5G pages that were already in the can before DiDio was fired or something? I imagine it's a mix of that and stories that had to be heavily reworked or reconceived due to the abandonment of the original 5G plans. What that ratio might be, I have no idea.
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Karma Tornado posted:is this Future State stuff just repackaged 5G pages that were already in the can before DiDio was fired or something? Seems that way since the only Flash story is about how Wally is an evil monster who only Barry Allen can defeat.
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So next Tales from the Dark Multiversenis the Lobo who Bats. God, just stop DC. Just Stop.
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FilthyImp posted:So next Tales from the Dark Multiversenis the Lobo who Bats. No that's INFINITE HOUR EXXXTREME. Tales from the Dark Multiverse is a separate line of comics.
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As someone who doesn't care at all about the monthly books (but lol at selling 19 three joker variants and people eating that up) I'm going to be pissed if they put all the trades in previews out to pasture for future state
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