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what if ben shaprio had sex with mr feeney
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I want trump to lose so nick gets to eat adam's hat
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jettisonedstuff posted:Did anyone else instantly hear this in the tune of guide me o thou great redeemer? it's a funny show. does that make it worth listening to? only you can decide that for yourself.
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Clipperton posted:i never even mentioned voting, you nutcase. anyone who thinks voting - or not voting - is all you have to do is either a lib, or has been driven insane by eighteen months of primary nonsense on twitter hahahaha you’re a loving ahistorical illiterate BLM, occupy, Ferguson, and standing rock were all when Biden when was VP. he tear gassed and blackbagged all of them. Biden won’t lift a loving finger, you’re actively lying to yourself and others in support of a warmongering rapist freak. Christ, talk about delusional.
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literally Biden just this week: “the cops are allowed to kill you on a whim and your only recourse is to wander the streets quietly and let the cops beat the poo poo out of you” loving hell try reading the loving news of the past week instead of trying to yammer on like some sort of authority
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Gripweed posted:That sounds so loving bad. Is it even analysis to say something like "well the world where these zombies exist wouldn't be possible without consumer capitalism, when u think about it how are consumers any different from zombies, har har har" Never mind the content, it's a bad idea to begin with. V. Illych L. posted:communist art critique is probably as old as communism itself StashAugustine posted:i listened to like half a dozen cum town bits on youtube and now its invaded my recommendations
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The entire "Bernie's campaign was a mirage because it couldn't survive an unprecedented ratfucking by the Party leadership and all of its surrogates" conversation is pathetic. Is this that "cope" the kids are talking about?
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Terrible Opinions posted:The Saw franchise actually decided the backstory for its killer would be about health insurance being evil. So it's really less reading Marxist subtext into things, and more ham-handed actual text. Jigsaw, known for his hoarse whispering 
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:No kidding. Except for the one or two horror movies from the '50s that were explicitly analogues for the 'dangers' of communism (and one of these I'm thinking of may have just been a Twilight Zone episode), what movies could even be discussed through this lens? maybe They Live, but these movies aren't usually written from a political standpoint, so any inference of actual politics in the movie is going to be pure projection
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People being confused about a Marxist reading of horror seems like people being confused at a feminist reading of horror movies. People critique media, all types of media from tons of different political lenses
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this just reminds me of moviebob's review of "ready or not" which he begins by saying that the rich vs poor thing is totally imagined and that class consciousness is just a way for white people to pretend they're oppressed
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https://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/movies/review.php?f=long/starwarsclonesII.txt "Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones" reviewed by MC5, May 20, 2002 The politics in this movie is light considering that the movie is about empires, government leaders, secession, war and contention between good and evil. Nonetheless we give this movie a limited endorsement. There was not much to complain about politically in the first installments of "Star Wars," which was both anti-fascist and anti-imperialist. The role of Black characters and the "Red Guard" in the key battles did not go unnoticed at MIM. In this movie, we learn that democracy is the preferred government of the "good guys" of the Republic. Although the characters' endorsement of democracy is rather shallow like the current understanding of democracy in the united $tates, the movie itself offers slightly more analysis of democracy. We learn right away that corruption and wrangling are ruining the Senate of the Republic. At age 20, future evil incarnate Darth Vader is just Anakin Skywalker, one of the most skilled Jedi warriors. We can tell that he is going to grow up to be an imperialist when he tells Obi-Wan Kenobi not to lecture him anymore on politics and economics. According to Anakin Skywalker, he only trusts 2 or 3 politicians and therefore the subjects of politics and economics themselves are contaminated--a huge mistake to throw out the baby with the bath water. He also favors dictatorship; although we learn that he himself wants to become the most powerful in the world when his mother dies. The death of his mother at the hands of an odious scavenger species also raises the question of genocide or extinction of species, because Anakin Skywalker kills every single member of that species, at least those on that planet. MIM found this a troublesome point, because the species was indeed loathsome. Democratic Senator and future wife of Anakin Skywalker, Padme Amidala has no criticisms when she learns of the genocide. To be sure, majorities of white people favored genocide in the united $tates to take land from Indians, so democracy and genocide are compatible. We wish there had been more discussion of the merits and demerits of this particular species that Anakin Skywalker wiped out and whether it is possible to say that some species are worthy of such extinction. Distrust of politicians, favorable attitudes toward dictatorship, inclinations toward genocide--clearly Anakin Skywalker has the makings of a classic Nazi. Just as Hitler copied much of Lenin on the vanguard party, Anakin Skywalker is going to take all the training of the Jedi Knights before becoming a full-fledged imperialist. One of the parts we like about the movie is the discussion of the secession movement by the politicians still loyal to the Republic. They talk repeatedly of negotiating with the thousands of planetary systems breaking away from the Republic. In fact, there is no standing army in the Republic. The Jedi Knights make a point of saying "we're only peacekeepers, not an army." The formation of a standing army in this movie is obviously tied to profit. By taking a smuggler-mercenary as the prototype, the Kaminoans who live far out in space away from the Republic build an army of clones for sale--to the Jedi Knights of the Republic. It appears that the dark side of the force ordered up two manufactured armies, without telling the Jedi Council of course. Each member of the clone army is ruthless, without thinking capacity, unquestioning and cloned from the same dubious humyn material. For MIM this is an excellent point about the movie. The Republic lived in peace with thousands of systems for 1000 years before a standing army came into being in obviously evil circumstances. So it appears that species able to inter-communicate can negotiate their organization with each other, without systematic wars. When it comes time to organize these armies and a secession movement, it turns out that we find business federations conspiring behind the back of the Republic. They stand for action to defeat the Jedi Knights and secede from the Republic. Hence, the origin of standing armies is the most odious of circumstances in "Star Wars." Yet, we cannot blame Yoda for organizing one of the clone armies to save the remaining Jedi Knights in a battle against another manufactured army. Although we have not seen the sequel, it appears that the army Yoda mustered will end up being corrupted itself and serving as an instrument of Darth Vader. The creation of armies is a plot by the evil Emperor Palpatine himself who assumed power legally while keeping the Republic in turmoil and emergency powers in his own hands. This problem neatly parallels our own in this day. Somehow we have found ourselves in circumstances where standing armies exist, act and arm themselves in connection to the profit motive. Contrary to anarchists who mistake their own wishes for reality or a means to achieve a new reality, we scientific socialists agree with Marx on the need for an interim dictatorship of the proletariat. Yoda had no choice but to use that army, because society was not ready for any other approach. A society needing an army is a dictatorship of some kind or another, whether openly fascist or cloaked as "democracy." By the way, the character who plays the leader of the secessionist movement is Christopher Lee of Dracula and British special forces intelligence fame. In the movie, he plays Count Dooku, who leaves the Jedi Knights after claiming they served a corrupt government. The newspaper critics focused on Jar Jar Binks, the character that starred in the last installment of Star Wars widely and deservedly criticized. However, even that criticism was shallow political correctness. Considering that there are all range of alien characters in the movie, including some of the lowliest scavenger types, it should not be surprising to find a character speaking poor English reminiscent of a Black slave caricature. Even accepting the criticism of the critics, we say so what? There is no reason that all species in a future intergalactic Republic would be perfect English speakers or highly intelligent, if Jar Jar Binks is indeed representative of a species. "Episode II" of "Star Wars" deserves to be a launching pad for more serious political discussion, not just political correctness on Jar Jar Binks. A note on dialectical, materialist acting by a comrade Reviews of "Attack of the Clones" in the bourgeois press were mixed. Those panning the film usually cited its "boring" subject matter--politics--and bad acting. Of course, for those of us interested in art as a means for arousing people to fight oppression and not an end in itself, there is nothing ITAL a priori END boring about politics. There was enough meat to "Attack of the Clones" to keep MIM interested and entertained--despite director and writer Lucas' muddle-headed idealism. Bad acting is another matter. As Mao taught us, "Works of art which lack artistic quality have no force, however progressive they are politically."("Talks at the Yenan Forum on Literature and Art," Selected Works, vol. 3) The bad acting in "Attack..." is not simply a matter of unprofessionalism, however. Rather, some of the actors apparently used a technique which makes it difficult to bring politics to life. Stephen Hunter from the Washington Post grasped some of this. His review is worth quoting at length: "[T]he movie is kind of a laboratory on American vs. British technique. Score: Brits 10, Yanks 0. That's because to the Brits, who work from the outside in, acting is physical mastery of face and voice and body, strategically employed at certain moments for impact. An actor imposes himself on the character, and invents charm and wit and sparkle where none exists. So even the guy playing Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) is creepy-elegant, and McGregor, athletic and earnest, can even bring a little life to a line like, 'I am concerned for my Padawan. He is not ready to be given this assignment on his own yet.' "The Americans, on the other hand, are trained to get into the character's mind and imagine as he would imagine, to work from the inside out. But there is no inside here: These characters are nothing but pop-cult props, and that leaves the performers helpless and inert... [E]ven an actual great actor, Samuel L. Jackson, seems ridiculous. He never looks comfortable as the Jedi Mace Windu, in robes and boots, and there's nothing he can do at all with a line like 'The Genosians aren't warriors. One Jedi has to be worth a hundred Genosians!'" Hunter's comments remind MIM of commie-symp playwright Bertolt Brecht's writings on acting. Brecht hated the "method acting" approach where actors draw on their persynal experiences to "feel what their characters are feeling" so that audiences also "feel their pain" etc. Why, Brecht asked, should the audience rejoice with the British soldiers who just put down a colonial revolt? Instead of getting caught up in the euphoria, the audience should be encouraged to make their own intellectual and emotional assessment--in this case, sorrow and anger. Brecht's preferred acting style--based on what he called the "alienation" or "distancing" effect--was similar to what Hunter calls "British technique." But for Brecht, the point was not to "inject charm and sparkle," but class analysis, proletarian politics. Hunter and other reviewers may dismiss "Attack's" characters as "nothing but pop-cult props" and its utilitarian, expository dialogue, but MIM does not--although we may quibble about the political line behind the characters. After all, in one of our favorite films--"Breaking With Old Ideas," made in China during the Cultural Revolution--the characters are not so much bourgeois individuals with personal psychological histories as representations of particular classes and political lines. But Hunter has a point: there is no way a seventeen-year-old actor from the 'burbs will be able to "get into himself" and find his "inner Anakin"--a former slave--or use navel-gazing to comment sensibly on Anakin's youthful impatience or fascist leanings. On the other hand, an intelligent, well-trained seventeen-year-old actor who had studied history and ideally participated in the class struggle first-hand would have been able to do more with Anakin--not because "that's where he's coming from" but because of his knowledge of the world outside himself and his take on it. So what on the surface looks like a matter of bad acting vs. good acting reveals itself as a conflict between subjectivism and post-modernism on the one hand and dialectics and materialism on the other.
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it’s an interesting phenomenon that podcasts since 2016 have gradually radicalised themselves and their listeners
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Serf posted:this just reminds me of moviebob's review of "ready or not" which he begins by saying that the rich vs poor thing is totally imagined and that class consciousness is just a way for white people to pretend they're oppressed lmao
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Serf posted:this just reminds me of moviebob's review of "ready or not" which he begins by saying that the rich vs poor thing is totally imagined and that class consciousness is just a way for white people to pretend they're oppressed he’s just obsfuscating the fact that because he makes his living howling into a webcam about pop culture media he’s part of the leisure class
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Serf posted:this just reminds me of moviebob's review of "ready or not" which he begins by saying that the rich vs poor thing is totally imagined and that class consciousness is just a way for white people to pretend they're oppressed i love that if i get mad, they're right
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Serf posted:this just reminds me of moviebob's review of "ready or not" which he begins by saying that the rich vs poor thing is totally imagined and that class consciousness is just a way for white people to pretend they're oppressed lol i just watched this and it rules how he becomes even more loathsome when you can hear his voice and get the whole picture
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i say swears online posted:i love that if i get mad, they're right someone who has nothing to be mad about is a good sign you’re dealing with someone very comfortable, or very dog-brained
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KomradeX posted:People being confused about a Marxist reading of horror seems like people being confused at a feminist reading of horror movies. People critique media, all types of media from tons of different political lenses  Prom Night II: Hello Mary Lou
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a Loving Dog posted:lol i just watched this and it rules how he becomes even more loathsome when you can hear his voice and get the whole picture is this movie good? it looks good
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babypolis posted:is this movie good? it looks good i enjoyed it. overall its a quick and fun little horror with some comedy mixed in there
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Clipperton posted:i never even mentioned voting, you nutcase. anyone who thinks voting - or not voting - is all you have to do is either a lib, or has been driven insane by eighteen months of primary nonsense on twitter which of these two potential candidates has 'deployed federales to successfully imprison labor organizers' hint: it's not trump
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Serf posted:i enjoyed it. overall its a quick and fun little horror with some comedy mixed in there it, as the kids say, whips
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a Loving Dog posted:lol i just watched this and it rules how he becomes even more loathsome when you can hear his voice and get the whole picture I call him The Movie Blob
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primo MovieBob destruction Struggle Session 180 - Brick by Brickquote:On today's bonus Struggle Session Jack analyzes "The Movie Bob" Bob Chipman's strategy guide/memoir Super Mario Bros. 3: Brick by Brick. lmao
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Taintrunner posted:hahahaha you’re a loving ahistorical illiterate 
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Noam Chomsky has been scolding for neoliberals for literal decades and has advanced none of the causes either you or him pretend to care about. who gives a gently caress what a comfortable academic has to say, he has no stakes in the struggle.
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Taintrunner posted:Noam Chomsky has been scolding for neoliberals for literal decades and has advanced none of the causes either you or him pretend to care about. who gives a gently caress what a comfortable academic has to say, he has no stakes in the struggle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
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you have no argument defending your support for a warmongering rapist for President, we know. it’s because you wish you could get away with those atrocities as well. it’s all just a power fantasy and you’re living vicariously through some slobbering freak
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Trash Ops posted:primo MovieBob destruction Struggle Session 180 - Brick by Brick he has a Super Mario Bros. 3 guide? okay, I'm tuning to hear about whatever this is
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Larry Parrish posted:which of these two potential candidates has 'deployed federales to successfully imprison labor organizers' hint: it's not trump have any labor organizers or union leaders endorsed trump? (actual unions that is, not, like, police ones)
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do an obama quote on the freedom of freedom freedoms next lib
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Taintrunner posted:you have no argument defending your support for a warmongering rapist for President, we know. it’s because you wish you could get away with those atrocities as well. it’s all just a power fantasy and you’re living vicariously through some slobbering freak Clipperton posted:what do you think is the most effective strategy, in the timeframe we have, to stave off the worst effects of climate change
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you’re voting for the pro-fracking candidate whose climate policy is written by oil and gas lobbyists. you don’t actually care. or you’re just plain stupid. either-or you’re still rewarding a rich white man for raping a woman, which makes your voice worthless and irrelevant.
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you can always tell when someone has just recently gotten into politics, usually from the hope shining in their eyes and unbroken spirit. ime it lasts about 1.5 election cycles or they become brainworm food
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Taintrunner posted:you’re voting for the pro-fracking candidate whose climate policy is written by oil and gas lobbyists. ok so set me straight: what strategy should the left be pursuing as of now, what tactic gets us the most bang for our buck? besides making slightly unhinged posts on dead forums?
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the last chance to solve climate change through electoralism was just now, in the 2020 democratic primary, where we could have nominated any of the candidates who supported the green new deal - which, i should say in advance to warn off the scolders, i am aware is only adequate as a first step towards a more comprehensive massive societal change now we are not even taking that first step through elections and typical bureaucratic process. so the question for this election is whether you think conservatives or liberals are better at suppressing leftists, and i tend to lean towards the latter Bootleg Trunks posted:Is bad faith good yet it’s still very hit or miss. Virgil and Briahna seem to be on a mission to mainstream leftism to the portion of liberals who are far left but call themselves “liberals” because they were never taught the difference (which, i would argue, is a very real thing.) for people like us c-spam posters, we really don’t need to be convinced again, so it’s just... not for us i still find it weird that people think Virgil is “the succdem chapo” because he analyzes elections and cares about their results. on bad faith and chapo, and especially on that antifada ep he did recently, he’s been pretty adamant on his stance that it really doesn’t matter who wins the election anymore or whether or not you vote. if anything, Briahna is the more frustrating of the two at times, though she is still good Pirate Jet has issued a correction as of 20:26 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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