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https://mobile.twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1321849780495175682 Forensic. E: 
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Shakespearean Beef posted:the what age demographics are destiny i say as a 19 year old English Youth commando yeets me into a ditch
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Oct 29, 2020 20:26
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Yeah I’m looking at England from the outside-in and I don’t see this looked-for rise of the left. I see the rise of the right.
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Nilbop posted:Please, no arguing in the War Zoom. 
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Oct 29, 2020 20:33
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https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1321889816221569024?s=19 How the gently caress do you not have your stories straight when you've been planning this poo poo from the start. We're not even being beaten by the talented Blairites.
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Oct 29, 2020 20:34
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https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1321895242803662848 Pissing off a quarter of your voters seems like an extremely smart move
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1321889816221569024?s=19 https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1321895542214037504?s=20
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Nilbop posted:Yeah I’m looking at England from the outside-in and I don’t see this looked-for rise of the left. I see the rise of the right. every avenue for public political power from the left is being mercilessly cracked down on while the far right is aided and abetted by the state. to the point we have the BBC reporting and RAF doing flybys for fascists patrolling the seas for refugees. to the point where the head of the opposition is now the man knighted for helping the government cover up its crimes. to the point where BNP policies that scared us in 2005 are now to the left of the sitting government. the government destroyed the passports of black british citizens and continues to deport them to countries they have never been to "send them back home" to the point where on telly the media calls nazism and racism "pro-statue" its a good thing nothing matters and objective reality doesnt exist past whats on telly because this would seem pretty concerning otherwise
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Oct 29, 2020 20:36
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1321895242803662848 beats pissing off 40% of them
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Oct 29, 2020 20:38
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1321895242803662848 Dogshit country
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Oct 29, 2020 20:44
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Momentum's response: https://peoplesmomentum.com/statement/statement-on-the-ehrc-report/
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Momentum's response: Wow, they're really keeping their heads below the parapet.
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Oct 29, 2020 20:49
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Communist Thoughts posted:beats pissing off 40% of them You must know this was a silly point to make E: I am legit surprised how high the number is though, but honestly I suspect the "I'm a lifelong Labour voter but voted Tory every year since 1979" crowd Borrovan fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 20:52
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Communist Thoughts posted:every avenue for public political power from the left is being mercilessly cracked down on while the far right is aided and abetted by the state. My grim silver lining if this poo poo is that (in my mind at least) it speeds the disintegration of the UK and perhaps prompts a successful border poll over here. Not much help to anyone in England unfortunately, although it's not like being shot of us would be a hindrance.
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Oct 29, 2020 20:55
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Defund the BBC.
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Oct 29, 2020 21:02
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Borrovan posted:Those 40% voted Labour when he was in charge, whereas the quarter are loving pissed also was anyone actively wanting Corbyn to be suspended? seems like not suspending him would have pissed off about 10 Guardian writers and no-one else would have given a gently caress
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Oct 29, 2020 21:15
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Michael Gove now playing the 'why was Starmer not taking steps against Corbyn during his horribly anti-semitic tenure' card, just as pretty much everyone here predicted they would 
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Oct 29, 2020 21:16
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1321895242803662848 It's going to be wild when the next election finally rolls around, and half of the Starmtroopers realise they've been conditioned to go along with the tory line for so long, and take that to its forensic conclusion and vote in whoever the tory leader is (after all, Keir's two selling points are "not Corbyn" and "not Bojo" which is the same selling point as literally any other politician who will replace Bojo).
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Oct 29, 2020 21:21
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Wasn't expecting that take from momentum. It's.... interesting. I'd have expected given that they've already made it clear their work is better done outside labour they'd not hold back but this is probably a smarter approach. e: The interesting thing as well about the support for suspending corbyn is that if anything it puts Lab in a *worse* situation: If Corbyn appeals, and it looks like they were on shaky ground in pulling him, they will now have to put him back on the benches against popular opinion.
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Oct 29, 2020 21:34
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Does anyone remember an episode of either Off The Fence or we don't talk about the weather that was just a deep dive into all the awful poo poo Boris has done and said throughout his career? Trying to find it
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Oct 29, 2020 21:35
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no good deed etc. this dumb loving country
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Oct 29, 2020 21:36
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Do y'all believe me yet that electoralism is fuckin deid?
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Oct 29, 2020 21:42
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This cesspool politics is entirely caused by FPTP and the sooner the country realises that the better.
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Drone_Fragger posted:This cesspool politics is entirely caused by FPTP and the sooner the country realises that the better. there might be scope for LAB embracing PR there... hear me out just in July CLPD and Momentum were vigorously dismayed by the transition of Labour NEC elections from FPTP to STV (because it would prevent all-left winner-take-all slate wins). This, by the way, after a string of losses where all-left slates were defeated the CLPD has never quite given up on the idea of a socialist majority-of-a-majority that allows a politics of maybe 20% of society to command a parliament. So, it disapproves, and conversely Labour First thinks the reverse. I have a sneaking suspicion that this may be one of those political battles with unforeseen consequences however - entrenching STV as a internal party mechanic essentially guarantees some left-wing presence in key committees in the long term, which may (eventually) have interesting impacts on LAB. The rival factions don't really have good ways to whip their slates and have always relied on the landslide effect to suppress factional rebellion. With STV that's no longer reliable and the practice of picking unimportant local councillors and junior activists may soon backfire - it would need to be someone with some stake in the faction. This would escalate the visibility of NEC battles over time, akin to leadership elections today - essentially as a kind of pre-emptive PR for the longstanding soc/demsoc/socdem splits, albeit one where the factions are locked into coalitioning only with each other. At that point, actual PR may be a lot easier to contemplate for CON the question is whether it wants something from its Scottish minority, rather than nothing, I suppose - with the right set of constituency shifts it could morph into something not anathema to the party ronya fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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I think the country does, but uh, what are we going to do about it?
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Oct 29, 2020 22:02
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Do the labour right not see that the tories will use the exact same tactic on them when the time comes? Shooting themselves in the foot. they should be aiming higher IMO.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:03
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Apparently calls for Lisa Nandy to be suspended for anti-semitism for her 'punching up' comments implying that Jewish people are wealthy and powerful... https://skwawkbox.org/2020/10/29/ca...powerful-video/
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Oct 29, 2020 22:10
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1321901424775696387?s=20 People are extremely mad about this one
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Oct 29, 2020 22:17
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That's a pretty succinct summary of the situation allright.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:20
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Oct 29, 2020 22:25
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"Thank god we now have a kinder tory party - the labour party"
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Oct 29, 2020 22:27
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peanut- posted:https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1321901424775696387?s=20 Surprised the The Graun didn't decide to hold this one back like they've done in the past with Steve's work.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:30
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peanut- posted:https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1321901424775696387?s=20 Seems apt given how it's literally being smug about the left eating itself.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:44
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Kinda amazed they booked Bell for today.. he has form for not toeing the graun line. Good on him
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Oct 29, 2020 22:47
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Liking Steve bells representation of keith, with bollocks for a chin and a puckered arsehole for a mouth.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:52
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sorry, can't see that as keir starmer. only reason i know it's not a grey haired cameron is because steve bell's drawing it
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Oct 29, 2020 22:55
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Dunno how representative this is but the general chat group on Facebook for my town (which went Tory last year) is pretty universally calling the EHRC report an obvious stitch up.
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Oct 29, 2020 22:55
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"The mask of humanity fall from capital. It has to take it off to kill everyone - everything you love; all the hope and tenderness in the world. It has to take it off; just for one second. To do the deed. And then you see it. As it strangles and beats your friends to death...the sweetest, most courageous people in the world," he's silent for a second. "You see the fear and power in its eyes. Then you know." "Know what?" "That the bourgeois are not human."'
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winegums posted:Liking Steve bells representation of keith, with bollocks for a chin and a puckered arsehole for a mouth. Looks a bit like Cameron tbh.
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