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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

This must be the in-depth effort post on feces driven public transport system in London or whatever it was Guav mentioned the other day :)

This is just the *notes* for another project I've been thinking of doing for a while. Literally just banged out whenever I had a spare 20 minutes that I'd normally fill with Twitter or SA, except of course the incentive to not slack pushed me even further into overkill than usual.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Rumda posted:

Here's the thing saying "oh just disconnect from the news just don't follow it if it's going to make you feel bad" is the hight of privileged BS how can you disconnect from the news and discourse when doing so leaves you open to getting blindsided by the next attack on you and your identity, how can you step away knowing that in doing so you are depriving your trans* siblings of another voice pushing back the waves of hate a derision no one else will step up to defend us we all have to pitch in to protect ourselves and others. It's great that your safe enough that you can just step away by when you do so realise that you are lucky that you can.

I don't think anyone's suggesting going into full hermit mode, completely isolated from the outside world, just that you need to look on the modern news media as something like an addictive substance that is actively harmful and so moderate your consumption of it. Of course for some people, as with other addictions, the only way to deal with it is total abstinence, but for many people simply recognising the problem and moderating your usage is doable and the healthiest alternative.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

CptAwesome posted:

Can anyone explain exactly how vouchers for contact lenses work for people on Universal Credit? The website isnt very much help, just telling me I'm entitled to them without any information on exactly how to go about doing so

When you get to the optician's and it comes to paying, you just say you're on Universal Credit. There's a tiny form to tick a box in and sign and you're good (at least, this is my experience with prescriptions, dentists and glasses, give your opticians a bell.

Mental health chat: I've been depressed on and off since I was 14 (along with other mental health issues lol), with a nice flavour of depersonalisation, only feeling misery or nothing and never making any plans for the future as I thought I only had a couple of years left before I'd kill myself over and over again. I'd read so many articles and advice I got bored of it as thought nothing worked, so apologies for a post giving advice.

I'd tried everything, seen a bunch of different psychiatrists and psychologists, taken a bunch of medication, CBT courses, self-medicating with booze and drugs, meditation and exercise, forcing myself to be social, volunteering to serve people in a worse boat than me - some of it worked for a while but eventually I ended up back to just staring out of windows in horrible office jobs wondering if I should just walk out, walk away from my house and everything else.

I think I've found what works for me after nearly two decades, so there is a way out. I even came off my medication last year and swapped it for 5-HTP and Vitamin D pills (that works for me, not everyone else), generally being kinder to myself but also changing my surroundings. I think there's a lot of focus on people that its their unique brain chemistry that fucks them up, and that can be true, but I don't think there's enough advice on changing your surroundings.

Get rid of harmful relationships (romantic, platonic, familial), stop living in a dense urban area, stop working in bullshit jobs. I know this might be a privileged position to be in, but if its life and death, its worth a go maybe. Make positive changes whilst you're feeling well so when you're not, you moved a bit further than being in the same situation you were. Treat yourself like the child you once were, be patient, don't fill your body with poo poo, be playful. There is an end to being depressed. You deserve a good life, so take a few risks, especially if there's nothing to lose.

Also just block news websites on your phone and delete your social media accounts, I've felt worse after reading horrible opinions on Twitter than I ever did with a hangover. There's no reason not to do it really, if you want to stay in touch with people there's alternative ways than messaging each other on a hellsite thats probably not good for either of you, and there's alternative online communities that aren't as toxic.

Good luck xxx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp2bk4YHFY

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Solidarity. I don't have anything to say, but this thread is good people and it's always nice to remember that you lot exist in the face of *gestures*

farcry
Jan 18, 2006

CptAwesome posted:

Can anyone explain exactly how vouchers for contact lenses work for people on Universal Credit? The website isnt very much help, just telling me I'm entitled to them without any information on exactly how to go about doing so

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/help-with-health-costs/free-nhs-eye-tests-and-optical-vouchers/ is the best help I can find. My partner gets the option because of health reasons. When she gets glasses or contacts the one she goes to scribes figures out if it's cheaper doing it the nhs way or with their own discount and does it automatically. It's not actually a physical voucher she hands over

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
I catch up on the news at the weekend, usually Sunday. Staying informed is a good thing, but the 24/7 news cycle is a poor way to do it, seeing the same headlines over and over with slight variations doesn't help you or those you care about.



Also raging on twitter? Absolutely useless way to spend your time. Delete the thing.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Mega Comrade posted:

Also raging on twitter? Absolutely useless way to spend your time. Delete the thing.

I don't rage on twitter I just lol

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

you need to look on the modern news media as something like an addictive substance that is actively harmful and so moderate your consumption of it
Every morning I wake up and open palm slam a line of the worst poo poo in the world into my nostrils. It's the British press and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside with the main character, bigotry. I do every move and I do every move hard. Makin Spiked Online sounds when I slam down some asylum seekers or even when I mess up critique. Not many can say that the Gypsies stole their bins to sell to Jews to turn into a dark altar to ritually murder Christ. I can. I say it and I say it out loud every day to people in my journalism class and all they do is prove people will pay you to be an immature jerk. And I've sniffed all the lines and I've learned how to make myself and my apartment less lonely by making GBS threads my opinions all over the country. 2 hours including brain force plus every morning

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


This thread was my first step into radicalisation way back wheb so thanks thread, and stay safe. Media is poison.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Mega Comrade posted:

Also raging on twitter? Absolutely useless way to spend your time. Delete the thing.

If it makes other people feel not alone and subject to raging from m the other side it is worth it

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



There's something horribly addictive about Twitter, especially when it comes to news and politics. I find myself clicking onto posts that I know are going to be full of shitheads in the replies. I'm fully aware that doing so will upset me but it's like picking scabs. It's probably doing some irreparable damage to the ol' mental health.

I should probably just deactivate Twitter but there are so many genuinely cool and good people whose feeds I don't want to stop seeing.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

endlessmonotony posted:

Do join us.

We have such wonderful, wonderful things to show you.
That's important to remember as well. There's a feeling somewhere between solidarity and schadenfreude in knowing that other people are not ok with this, that you are not alone. For the longest time I was stressed and sad because none of this poo poo made sense to me, but everyone around me seemed fine with it.

Being online and keeping up with this thread, and listening to the pod makes me feel less insane and less alone. I tend mostly to listen to Trashfuture and PiP and occasionally Chapo because it's like relief - it's that feeling of "Yes, this is poo poo, we also feel like poo poo about it, now lets all have a laugh about how poo poo it is."

I don't think I really have the ability to step away and not pay attention - I've tried after the 2019 election and just ended up feeling like I needed to know anyway. I'm not making GBS threads on people who can do that because it's a valuable sanity skill, but I feel like once the door is open to that kind of knowledge there's no closing it without a nagging worry about what's going on back there. I just don't know how to do that without it feeling like denial.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
wot about those monster munch though eh??!?!

aaaargh chocolate orange uuuuuurrrrgh fight u!!!!!!

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

stev posted:

There's something horribly addictive about Twitter, especially when it comes to news and politics. I find myself clicking onto posts that I know are going to be full of shitheads in the replies. I'm fully aware that doing so will upset me but it's like picking scabs. It's probably doing some irreparable damage to the ol' mental health.

I should probably just deactivate Twitter but there are so many genuinely cool and good people whose feeds I don't want to stop seeing.

I know what your mean, my feed is all cricket and comic strips.

My recommendations is frothing rage and I can't resist looking at the poop.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


crispix posted:

wot about those monster munch though eh??!?!

aaaargh chocolate orange uuuuuurrrrgh fight u!!!!!!
Brought Quavers for my lunch today. They're... alright. No strong feelings either way.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Anyone want to know what I've been up to rather than looking at the news today?



I feel like 43000 is probably too many characters to fit into a ten thousand word short story, I'd suggest cutting at least ten thousand of the romance subplots :P

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

stev posted:

There's something horribly addictive about Twitter

Well yeah, it's deliberately designed and intended to be addictive. The longer you're glued to the phone screen, scrolling, liking and engaging, the more advertising revenue Twitter gets. It nakedly exploits the same reward centres in the brain that get lab rats endlessly pushing the button in their cage that dispenses sugary treats.

*finishes thought*
*hits 'post'*
*returns to fretfully scrolling thru Twitter*

Pistol_Pete fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Oct 30, 2020

Deketh
Feb 26, 2006
That's a nice fucking fish

justcola posted:


Get rid of harmful relationships (romantic, platonic, familial), stop living in a dense urban area, stop working in bullshit jobs. I know this might be a privileged position to be in, but if its life and death, its worth a go maybe. Make positive changes whilst you're feeling well so when you're not, you moved a bit further than being in the same situation you were. Treat yourself like the child you once were, be patient, don't fill your body with poo poo, be playful. There is an end to being depressed. You deserve a good life, so take a few risks, especially if there's nothing to lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp2bk4YHFY

Having very similar mental health experiences, I think that's great advice, where possible to follow.
It's hard to be alive and aware in this insane world, and when you consider where all this degredation is taking us it can be hard to see the point of carrying on with normality (not that we have a choice). Day to day for me I'm more angry than sad, furious really that we are collectively incapable of learning lessons from history. All this has happened before in one way or another, and the great grift never ends. The only thing truly new is climate change, and just continuing to clock in every day in the face of that seems like a special kind of insaniity. That anger leads to bitterness and I can feel myself changing into something I don't like, as Camrath also mentioned. I think that the child that I was would be very sad. But I'm trying to be more patient and generous with myself and I think that is really important as you say. Gradually I'm trying to simplify my life, work less, buy less, be outside more.

The decent people here have my love for not choosing the easy way and being selfish and lazy with their regard for other people, it helps to have that as a kind of oasis amid the appalling opinions of the world, although since it's also a source of news for me on the latest cuntery I usually have to cut myself off for periods of time.
stay sexy everyone

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


It's okay goons, the full force of Brexit hits in two months, hopefully that's going to crater the country then cause the breakup of the UK entirely, and at that point this will all seem distant and quaint.

Steam sale's on, I'm going to do that instead of work today.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pistol_Pete posted:

Well yeah, it's deliberately designed and intended to be addictive. The longer you're glued to the phone screen, scrolling, liking and engaging, the more advertising revenue Twitter gets. It nakedly exploits the same reward centres in the brain that get lab rats endlessly pushing the button in their cage that dispenses sugary treats.
Fortunately we know the cure for this sort of behavior. Unfortunately the current pandemic makes it much harder, and services like Twitter are preying on that.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

The Perfect Element posted:

Yeah, this was a wonderful post. The only ambition we should all have is to live life as happily as we can, and to gently caress the world up as little as possible for others around and after us.


Hmm. I get the sentiment and taking care of yourself is absolutely important, but isn’t this a bit like giving up? Do this when you need to, but when you feel up to it, fight the bastards tooth and nail. There’s a world up for grabs, don’t let the evil fuckers have it yet.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Yesterday finally spurred me on to delete the Guardian from everywhere - it's been my default news app since I had a smartphone, out of inertia as I've been radicalised and found them more and more repellent. Taking its place is Apple News, which will serve the "what's happening" function nicely. Had to swiftly block the Sun and other tabloids as sources though.

For some reason this also gave me the kick to ditch Gmail and move to Protonmail. Would recommend so far.

Guavanaut posted:

Every morning I wake up and open palm slam a line of the worst poo poo in the world into my nostrils. It's the British press and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside with the main character, bigotry. I do every move and I do every move hard. Makin Spiked Online sounds when I slam down some asylum seekers or even when I mess up critique. Not many can say that the Gypsies stole their bins to sell to Jews to turn into a dark altar to ritually murder Christ. I can. I say it and I say it out loud every day to people in my journalism class and all they do is prove people will pay you to be an immature jerk. And I've sniffed all the lines and I've learned how to make myself and my apartment less lonely by making GBS threads my opinions all over the country. 2 hours including brain force plus every morning

:golfclap:

Love a good Open Palm Slam

stev posted:

There's something horribly addictive about Twitter, especially when it comes to news and politics. I find myself clicking onto posts that I know are going to be full of shitheads in the replies. I'm fully aware that doing so will upset me but it's like picking scabs. It's probably doing some irreparable damage to the ol' mental health.

I should probably just deactivate Twitter but there are so many genuinely cool and good people whose feeds I don't want to stop seeing.

This is my take too. Part following good and interesting people, and part rage-enjoying the worst people ever in the replies.

Helps if you treat the latter like a video game - report them for their hateful poo poo, see which ones Twitter responds to 3 weeks later, and then try and remember what you reported them for. Recently I've got a bunch of updates saying they've been found in violation of what basically sounds like "revenge porn"... which is interesting because I never reported anyone for that :catstare:

Prism Mirror Lens
Oct 9, 2012

~*"The most intelligent and meaning-rich film he could think of was Shaun of the Dead, I don't think either brain is going to absorb anything you post."*~




:chord:
I left Labour, deleted Twitter and stopped reading all news except fluff stories ages ago. I’m trying to stay out of this thread too. But in light of recent events, I must just pop in to say that I hope Starmer falls down a manhole and gets absorbed into a fatberg, the stupid gently caress.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Bobstar posted:

Helps if you treat the latter like a video game - report them for their hateful poo poo, see which ones Twitter responds to 3 weeks later, and then try and remember what you reported them for. Recently I've got a bunch of updates saying they've been found in violation of what basically sounds like "revenge porn"... which is interesting because I never reported anyone for that :catstare:

I used to do this. I'll still enjoy a good mass-blocking if the mood takes me, but I haven't had any update on a report in months. I wouldn't be surprised if I've been shadowbanned from reporting people.

1965917
Oct 4, 2005

So this whole report found two unlawful acts, does anyone know what they were?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

one thing i can’t get my head over is how a bunch of losers in the opposition party, which won’t even see power at best in 4 years, have somehow knocked the global pandemic and brexit off the from pages

(well obviously it’s just the well-off chattering classes in the westminster obsessed media, but still)

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Bobstar posted:

This is my take too. Part following good and interesting people, and part rage-enjoying the worst people ever in the replies.

Helps if you treat the latter like a video game - report them for their hateful poo poo, see which ones Twitter responds to 3 weeks later, and then try and remember what you reported them for. Recently I've got a bunch of updates saying they've been found in violation of what basically sounds like "revenge porn"... which is interesting because I never reported anyone for that :catstare:

I find my twitter experience gets better as I add more phrases to the muted list, mute and block and in some cases report idiots, plus I've use my ad blocker to block the elements of web twitter to hide the trending topics and who to follow boxes. It's not foolproof, and the occasional hot take slips through, but nothing rage inducing on the whole

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Honestly, twitter is a lost cause. Zero it out in your hosts file, add it to your phone's banned site list 'n just move on with your day.
Ditto whatever else makes you stare into the Abyss.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It's okay goons, the full force of Brexit hits in two months, hopefully that's going to crater the country then cause the breakup of the UK entirely, and at that point this will all seem distant and quaint.

Steam sale's on, I'm going to do that instead of work today.

Problem for me is the impending breakup of the country has effected me financially and I can’t afford to upgrade my aging pc. If they’d just release the steam version of dwarf fortress I’d be ok but no, I just gotta hope they’ve really optimised cyberpunk beyond all expectation.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Twitter is unfortunately where a lot of artists and other creatives live, and the fact that Twitter could fall out of favour at any time hasn't convinced any of them to put their work on a proper gallery site like any sane person would, so I'm kind of stuck following them on there.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

ConanThe3rd posted:

Honestly, twitter is a lost cause. Zero it out in your hosts file, add it to your phone's banned site list 'n just move on with your day.
Ditto whatever else makes you stare into the Abyss.

The daily moth account alonehas brightened my day more often that twitter itself has ruined it

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Twitter is cancer. I had an account briefly and it totally span my brain out. Personally I've managed to mostly get away from reading news sites, and getting news and tweets filtered through here and USPol is quite a lot less brain-frying than reading it directly (TYFYS, twitter users).

Spending all day cooped up at home is definitely loving my brain up as well, especially the shift from working at home to effectively living at work. Definitely missing varied social interaction even if it's just the weird people at work.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/RichmondNubNews/status/1321063030915014662?s=20

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
I like twitter but i explicitly don't use it to follow news or politics. I follow a ton of authors, especially pocs and indigenous folks, bird science academics, other science-y stuff, etc. occasionally politics pops up because people are human but by and large it's been pretty nice.

this is only after i deleted everyone i follow and built up lists of interesting people, though, and it also requires maintenance for when people get weird. but yeah it's mostly a hole based on embeds i see all the time.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

mediaphage posted:

I follow a ton of authors

bad news about this one

https://twitter.com/Simon_Vessey/status/1322136914544238593?s=20

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
starmer unsurprisingly being a massive oval office to defend the decision to suspend corbyn all over the press today

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.


Reminds me someone here said William Boyd is somehow Bad but I see he has a new book out and they are always v nice escapism.

https://mobile.twitter.com/drewtoplawyer/status/1320402702447280129

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
when you absolutely care about antisemitism

https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1322131161297149953?s=20

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

Twitter is a great place for making and reading jokes. And calling Tories cunts, I guess.

Saw this and thought it was a very good response to the report:

https://twitter.com/labourhub/status/1321938793608454144?s=21

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the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009

Grind my organs into crimson paste for the poppy factory

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