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142 | 20.91% |
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30 | 4.42% |
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| Non-vascular plants are the best! |
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| Screw you, I'd rather eat them! |
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183 | 26.95% |
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Epsilon Plus posted:I've done some searching and I can't seem to find a lamp that does what I want; should I just get something like this? You certainly can. I use these and these in my living room. The PAR38s are probably half a pound or so—I have them in normal (cheap) goosenecks though they are mounted to a wall. The smaller ones don't weigh any more than a normal bulb and should be all you need to augment the natural light at the distance it sounds like you're planning to have to them.
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Oct 25, 2020 00:06
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I have PAR38s too, good to know they won't cause any serious issues. I'm really happy with their light, so I'd like to stick with them - I'll try getting a fairly sturdy lamp and see how it goes
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Oct 25, 2020 00:43
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Does anyone here have experience with keeping carnivorous plants? I have a small bog garden that lives outside in the warmer months and today while inspecting it, I noticed that my sundew was absolutely COVERED in what I think must be aphids. It was too dark to get a picture on my phone at the time, but I'll get one asap tomorrow when there's light enough to do so. This perplexes me because I would assume the sundew would just roll up and eat them but... It seems like there are just -so many- on it that it's been overwhelmed. Here are the promised pictures, with a bonus tiny bloom that I caught open this morning. The bugs are kind of hard to make out, but hopefully these images will resize properly and someone will recognize the little shits and know what I can do to get rid of them without harming my plants. I'm like 99% they're some type of aphid, but I know the cure for that is usually neem oil and that... won't work on sundews and flytraps.     You can see in this one that there have been so many that they've fallen off the sticky vines and are in the water dish now.  Wee tiny bloom, the last one before he goes to seed. That Damn Satyr fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Oct 25, 2020 |
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Oct 25, 2020 07:17
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I got fungus gnats in my houseplants. Aside from trying to keep the plants as dry as possible, are soil drenches of 1:4 hydrogen peroxide and sticky traps the best way to eliminate them?
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Oct 26, 2020 05:58
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So I grew a bunch of dahlias from seed this year and while most of them were covered in mulch and kept in the ground (zone 8b), has dug up one, and trimmed the stalk like i was over wintering it. Generally how long does it take before eyes form? I want to see if I can split it up and maybe try growing them under a grow light or in my hot bed. Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Oct 26, 2020 06:48
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That drat Satyr posted:Does anyone here have experience with keeping carnivorous plants? This isn't aphids, your Drosera filiformis just lucked into a hefty meal. Hard to ID the bug from your photos, but aphids generally attack flower stalks or non-trapping surfaces on sundews, and all the gnats/springtails/whatever in your photos are stuck to the glands. D. filiformis can display a bit of movement when trapping prey, but it's less dramatic than with other species, and mostly just looks like this. Your plant is fine, and is enjoying a late season meal, but just to warn you, it looks like it's about to go dormant and it will look dead as hell in a few weeks. Don't panic, keep it wet, and keep it in as much sun as you can and it should wake up again in a few months. Ok Comboomer posted:I got fungus gnats in my houseplants. Get a sundew (Drosera sp.) or a butterwort (Pinguicula sp.) and it should wreck your fungus gnats. Also, if you're growing your plants in enough light to successfully keep carnivorous plants happy your soil will probably dry out more often and reduce the regularity of infestations.
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Oct 26, 2020 07:23
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Ok Comboomer posted:I got fungus gnats in my houseplants. Mosquito bits or busted up dunks in your soil or your water storage. Beneficial bacteria that eats the larvae before they can mature.
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Oct 26, 2020 07:45
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I did the mosquito bits thing and they do help but I needed multiple avenues of attack to finally beat them. Basically something for the adults as well (sticky yellow traps) so you're targeting both stages
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Oct 26, 2020 11:35
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I just put up sticky traps and let summer do the rest. 
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Oct 26, 2020 11:42
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Looked at sundews again (my plant store got a whole bunch of assorted carnivorous plants in the other day and I might have a look) and apparently they’re sensitive to photoperiod and will enter dormancy if you gently caress with their light schedule. No clue on whether it’s required like with flytraps or if it’s purely induced. Either way, I don’t particularly like that..... Too much pressure for me.
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Oct 26, 2020 12:54
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Ok Comboomer posted:I got fungus gnats in my houseplants. As far as I know the recommended mix for a hydrogen peroxide drench is 3% (which is what it usually comes as from the drug store) but either it or neem oil should kill the larvae. There's also nematodes, etc. Then you have to deal with the flies separately, of course. The other approach is to target the surface of the soil since that's where they lay eggs and emerge. For plants that want to sit in wet soil I have found it very effective to top the soil with a ~1" layer of something that doesn't retain moisture (gravel, whatever—I use black pumice).
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Oct 26, 2020 16:20
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Ok Comboomer posted:Looked at sundews again (my plant store got a whole bunch of assorted carnivorous plants in the other day and I might have a look) and apparently they’re sensitive to photoperiod and will enter dormancy if you gently caress with their light schedule. That's only true for temperate species like D. filiformis. Subtropical species, like the much more common and easier-to-grow D. capensis or D. aliciae or D. spatulata have no dormancy irrespective of photoperiod, and do better grown indoors than temperate species anyway.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:40
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Nosre posted:I did the mosquito bits thing and they do help but I needed multiple avenues of attack to finally beat them. Basically something for the adults as well (sticky yellow traps) so you're targeting both stages Seconding this. I had an outbreak over the summer to all of my house plants from a newly purchased peace lilly (I suppose this is common for them) and it was awful. I didn't bother with the peroxide because it was impossible to source during the pandemic, but 5 gallons of mosquito bits came in 2 days from Amazon. 1/2 inch of bits on top, probably overkill. Less effort than crunching up the dunks (tried that first and it was kind of a pain to get them small enough). I also went through and re-planted everything in microwaved soil to make sure all potential larvae/bugs are dead and keep some on hand for impulse purchases. Mosquito bits + microwaved soil is now a requirement for any plant that comes inside.
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Oct 26, 2020 21:21
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Kenning posted:This isn't aphids, your Drosera filiformis just lucked into a hefty meal. Hard to ID the bug from your photos, but aphids generally attack flower stalks or non-trapping surfaces on sundews, and all the gnats/springtails/whatever in your photos are stuck to the glands. D. filiformis can display a bit of movement when trapping prey, but it's less dramatic than with other species, and mostly just looks like this. Your plant is fine, and is enjoying a late season meal, but just to warn you, it looks like it's about to go dormant and it will look dead as hell in a few weeks. Don't panic, keep it wet, and keep it in as much sun as you can and it should wake up again in a few months. Thanks for the info! In the time I've had this guy he's always rolled down his tendrils when he catches something, so it felt super weird that there would be so many bugs caught but no curling up. I guess they don't need to do that to digest and just go at it, huh? I've already had some dieback on the pitchers and flytraps in my bog garden, but I live in NC and all the plants I keep in it are native species so I plan to just over-winter them outside and keep an eye on them with my other stuff. With luck I won't murder them all.
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Oct 26, 2020 23:41
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So I have a little bog planter with some drosera and utricularia. I've grown gemmae before but they struggled because not knowing better I used miracle-gro peat. I ordered about 40 drosera gemmae - can I just set them directly in the bog?
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Oct 27, 2020 05:34
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subpar anachronism posted:So I have a little bog planter with some drosera and utricularia. I've grown gemmae before but they struggled because not knowing better I used miracle-gro peat. I ordered about 40 drosera gemmae - can I just set them directly in the bog? I'm by no means an expert, but what I did when I introduced the sundew's into my little garden was basically to get a big bag of sphagnum moss and a bag of the shittiest dirt I could find (dollar store!) And mixed that up a bit. About 80% of my planter is substrate that my plants came in, and I just lightly filled in with the mixture where needed after just scooting things around and making room. After getting it all into place, I layered little moss cuttings I've been cultivating on top of it so it would help seal in the moisture. For setup, I use basically what looks like a double broiler - one dish with a giant hole in the bottom which is what everything is planted in, set down inside a larger pyrex bowl that I keep clean rainwater in. After that, it's really been very hands off. If I notice the fly trap doesn't have any traps closed for longer than a week or two I usually find a small cricket out of the yard and manually feed it with foreceps but beyond that, for me the care has been entirely 'just change their water and enjoy them.' I realize this is more in-depth than what you asked but I am a little in love with this stuff, and wish it were a bit more common. That Damn Satyr fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Oct 27, 2020 10:01
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I've already got my little garden set up and going, but I appreciate all the advice! My bog is actually carnivore specific. My substrate is 50/50 washed sphag peat and perlite, per the recommendations of the local carnivore grower that got me started. It has a terra cotta pot in the center of a large glazed bowl that acts as a wick for water or can be removed to make flushing the bowl easier. I would caution against advising people to use soil mixes, from the garden store or wherever else, as this will really hurt some carnivores with nutrient burn. My question is really just about gemmae, I've already had luck growing them in other containers and fine transferring plants if necessary. I just need to know if there's a reason I shouldn't put them directly in my existing planter with other drosera and some utricularia species. uranium grass fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Oct 28, 2020 |
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Oct 28, 2020 22:48
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Thanks for the the thread reboot input! How do we think the OP should be organized? Any volunteers to contribute? Some quick thoughts I'v had: 1. Plants-they rock!-some words about plants and how neat they are. Maybe some 'what is horticulture?' if we are sticking with Horticulture for the thread title (which I think is a good term) 2. Outside Ornamentals- This thread is mostly for ornamentals, after all. Should we break it down by size (shrub, trees, etc) or annuals/perennials or flowers/foliage? I'm inclined towards herbaceous/woody as a decent way to break things up-plants you see year round vs. plants you don't? Any volunteers for this? Oil of Paris? 2b. EffortPosts from this thread to link to (please volunteer your own-don't be shy!)I know I did one about camellias at some point and I think one about Old-Fashioned roses too that I will dig up. They don't have to be super detailed-pictures are nice when talking about plants imo. 3. Inside Ornamentals- Houseplants, succulents, all that stuff. I am death to houseplants so I can't help, but I know some of you know a ton about those things. Link to Bonsai and Hydroponics threads? Again, share your effortposts and we can link them here. 4. Taxonomy- I don't want to scare anyone away, but it can't be a plant nerd chat zone without some brutal arguments over taxonomy and confusion over common names. 5. Trees?-There's kind of an outdoor plants thread that's maybe about trees over in TGO but It doesn't get much traffic. Trees are awesome maybe we should say a few words about trees? 6. All the stuff I forgot This thread has a very broad scope which is why I love it-if I have forgotten something you care about-let me know! 7. Books/websites/yootoobs?- PYF garden books/websites/youtubes. There was a little plantbook chat in this thread a while ago I will try and find, but please contribute your own favorites! 8. Design?- What plants look good next to other plants, how should gardens be laid out. Maybe I'm the only person that cares about this kind of thing, idk. Please please someone volunteer to write some chunks of this-y'all have way more knowledge about most of this stuff than I do. I don't think it needs to be hugely in depth (maybe make an effortpost in the new thread we can link to in the OP if you are super into XYZ?) but enough to get a new person excited about the topic and give them the groundwork of 'hey these are houseplants they are cool'
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Oct 28, 2020 23:31
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Hell, more talk about design would be amazing! I have to get these maples out of pots at some point and digging that first flowerbed in the lawn was agonizing.
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Oct 28, 2020 23:35
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I'd be down to write the intro and the outdoor ornamental section. I think "trees" as their own topic would more or less get subsumed into this as well and probably don't need their own section, unless its about planting them correctly, in which case I think I've got a couple big posts somewhere in here about the special considerations around that. Design is cool to talk about and it'd be interesting if someone is out there who actually does design who wants to post. My impression is that most of the regulars in this thread have a "plant it, let God sort them out" philosophy for outdoor stuff. I know that I'm super in that camp; we have our core foundation shrubs and trees to create a baseline and then everything else is pretty much randomly planted based on light requirements and space with a smattering of annuals randomly seeded around the blank spots If there isn't somebody else, I'd be willing to write a little bit about some super general outdoor perennial design principles, basically "how to make a half-rear end English garden," since I have put some effort and research into making sure there's year round interest. For instance, this year I realized that my late summer bloom game is pretty weak (my garden looks like poo poo right now lol), so that's a goal for next year that I've started planning towards already I could probs have something typed up between today and tomorrow depending on how crazy work gets and if the baby doesn't go rogue on me during my increasingly rare free time; I've been attempting to plant like 20 dinky Saxifraga stolonifera divisions for the past three days rofl
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Oct 29, 2020 10:23
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I don't know nothin' about nothin' except a little bit about succulents. I can write a little thing up about them if we don't want to lump that in with general houseplants though I know space is probably at a premium given that list of topics. Let me know. Here's a slightly adapted text message that I sent one of my siblings who was asking about places to get plants that I can vouch for. Maybe helpful? Wallet posted:Where do I get me some plant? Here's some books I posted in the TGO thread that are good for IDing poo poo: Botany in a Day - good starting point for IDing plants Plant Identification Terminology - figure out what to call things so you can google them.
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Oct 29, 2020 12:49
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Having a 2nd or 3rd post for online seed/plant shops would be useful. There’s such an insane variety of disease resistant hybrids and old heirlooms out there that you can pretty much find anything you want that will fit your space and climate. Also, I mentioned in the DIY gardening discord the start of a dahlia breeding project, would periodic write-ups on this be interesting to folks?
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Oct 29, 2020 16:15
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Solkanar512 posted:Having a 2nd or 3rd post for online seed/plant shops would be useful. There’s such an insane variety of disease resistant hybrids and old heirlooms out there that you can pretty much find anything you want that will fit your space and climate. Including a seed/plant source list is a good idea too. Oil of Paris posted:I'd be down to write the intro and the outdoor ornamental section. I think "trees" as their own topic would more or less get subsumed into this as well and probably don't need their own section, unless its about planting them correctly, in which case I think I've got a couple big posts somewhere in here about the special considerations around that. Wallet posted:I don't know nothin' about nothin' except a little bit about succulents. I can write a little thing up about them if we don't want to lump that in with general houseplants though I know space is probably at a premium given that list of topics. Let me know.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:00
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I did garden design in school and once upon a time a design of mine was selected as a runner-up for a historical site in Ottawa.  I'm a gentleman of few words, though, so I don't see myself writing tons. Besides, most goons are located in warmer climates where there are different factors to consider than what I'm used to here.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:25
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Plant MONSTER. posted:I did garden design in school and once upon a time a design of mine was selected as a runner-up for a historical site in Ottawa.  I think plant choice is an aspect of design that does depend on climate, but stuff like 'have a focal point at the end' or 'put colorful flowers in front of a dark evergreen hedge' or w/e is pretty universal. Any and all contributions are appreciated!
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Oct 29, 2020 18:29
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The first lesson of garden design is: remember how big trees get. The rest is just a matter of picking stuff that grows well in your climate I guess. Also, for hard landscaping, use natural stone that comes from your region!
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Oct 29, 2020 19:06
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I for one am very interested in your dahlia breeding project. And your japanese maple collection. Breeding my own varieties of some weird old plant is one of my life goals. I need to throw something together about building and using a cold frame/hot bed as well. Nature’s cheat code! Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 19:25
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RickRogers posted:The first lesson of garden design is: remember how big trees get. The rest is just a matter of picking stuff that grows well in your climate I guess. Holy poo poo, this is so true about trees! Too many times folks plant a sapling way too close to the house and have to prune the gently caress out of it every year just for doing what it does when there was likely a dwarf cultivar that would have worked in it’s place. Sango Kaku vs Benihime when it comes to coral bark maples, for instance. The first is a legit tree in its own right, the latter is much smaller and great as an understory dwarf tree or in a pot.
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Oct 29, 2020 19:27
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My parents planted birch trees shortly before I was born and by 15-20 years later they absolutely dwarfed the house. This was ok except for the fact that their voracious demand for water led one of them to tap into the sewer line under the front lawn.
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Oct 29, 2020 19:39
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I think a separate succulent thing would be good. From my limited understanding of them, the cultural/care requirements are completely different from most houseplants. Pictures are probably a good idea for an OP about plants. As far as succulents go I can take a few pictures of stuff I have but if anyone has any cool photos they want to post/repost before I scour GIS that would be swell (paging elgarbo). There's.. kind of a lot of thread to try and go through. Here's a picture of my tiger lillies I found while scrolling through old photos before this thread turns into a wall of text : 
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Oct 29, 2020 20:41
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Double posting (for shame) but here's some poo poo about succulents. I tried to keep it to A) some pictures of plants and B) the one thing that comes up virtually every time someone posts about their unhappy succulent, but feel free to trim if necessary. Will swap out/add pictures if anyone comes up with anything/has any suggestions/whatever. Wallet posted:Succulents
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Oct 30, 2020 15:15
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An exception to tree size planning is fruit trees. If you are willing and able to trim a fruit tree once or twice a year, most species can and should be kept quite small.
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Oct 30, 2020 15:27
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You left out the best part of succulents: that they can be nearly immortal through propagation and one tiny plant can suddenly turn into you having over 30 because each leaf will make a whole new plant if you let it. (Ask me how I became a Jade farmer in just three easy steps!) There's some succulent crossover with the bonsai thread, I think, re: jades and some other more woody varieties. Plant guys, make a thread alliance and link each other or something?
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That drat Satyr posted:You left out the best part of succulents: that they can be nearly immortal through propagation and one tiny plant can suddenly turn into you having over 30 because each leaf will make a whole new plant if you let it. (Ask me how I became a Jade farmer in just three easy steps!) Some of them, at least, but considering how broad this thread is I was trying to keep it brief, which is why I didn't also cover the second most popular question people post. (Why is my succulent getting all long and weird and poo poo?) It could be good for someone to cover propagation in an effort post that gets linked to in the succulent section of the OP or something? I posted a brief outline here in this thread but it's pretty bare bones and someone could definitely do better (hint, hint). That drat Satyr posted:There's some succulent crossover with the bonsai thread, I think, re: jades and some other more woody varieties. Plant guys, make a thread alliance and link each other or something? I follow the bonsai thread (though I have nothing of meaning to contribute) and I've been thinking about dipping my toe in with some jade since I could do it indoors (it gets cold here and I hate it) and trying to keep a small tree alive kind of freaks me out. I also somehow ended up going down the rabbit hole of Peter Chan videos despite not owning any bonsai. I assume you just start with a decent sized jade and go for it. Are any other succulents popular bonsai projects or is it mostly just Crassula ovata? Wallet fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Wallet posted:Double posting (for shame) but here's some poo poo about succulents Over the last year or so I have slowly permitted myself more succs as I don't kill them. I'm especially a fan of the translucent haworthia like your springbokvlakensis, but am less experienced with them - they don't appear to wrinkle much, so what are the best signs these guys are thirsty? Also that capitella  gorgeous!
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Oct 30, 2020 17:17
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showbiz_liz posted:My parents planted birch trees shortly before I was born and by 15-20 years later they absolutely dwarfed the house. This was ok except for the fact that their voracious demand for water led one of them to tap into the sewer line under the front lawn. I had to recently inspect and cut back a bunch of 30 year old Birches that a guy had decapitated five years or so ago, because he believed that trees needed/liked to be chainsawed in half for some reason. All of them just rotting severely away at the points they had been cut Thing is, he had a huge garden and lived in the middle of nowhere, so they had all the space they needed! Anyway, what was going on with garden design? I have dabbled, I really enjoy the plan drawing aspect, but am out of practice because I mostly just do new planting of small beds and customers just let me do what I want and that doesn't warrant the effort really.
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Oct 30, 2020 17:48
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subpar anachronism posted:Over the last year or so I have slowly permitted myself more succs as I don't kill them. I'm especially a fan of the translucent haworthia like your springbokvlakensis, but am less experienced with them - they don't appear to wrinkle much, so what are the best signs these guys are thirsty? Also that capitella I wish those were my plants! I have a springbokvlakensis I got a couple of months ago but I'm still trying to get it to plump up a little without, you know, drowning it. I'm not actually sure how healthy it is to have it holding as much water as you see in that photo. Mine looks more like this at the moment (I took a photo when I got it but I can't find it):  Plants don't seem to like travelling in dark boxes. Who knew? I also haven't managed to keep my thyrsiflora anywhere near that perfectly compact; they have that shape near the tips but not for the whole length of the plants. I may try some cuttings now that I have much stronger lights. Given the color and shape in that photo I'm pretty sure they're being grown outdoors somewhere nice and warm in a shitload of sun. Here's a bonus Myrtilocactus geometrizans 'Fukurokuryzinboku' I just got in yesterday. I wasn't planning on getting any more succulents but then I saw a good deal and... 
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Oct 30, 2020 18:21
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That cactus is just a tower of boobs.
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Oct 30, 2020 19:06
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Plant MONSTER. posted:That cactus is just a tower of boobs. wait’ll you hear about Mammilaria
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Haha, yeah, I know all about the mammillarias. I just find it funny that that cactus that was posted is called a "human breast cactus" colloquially. Other funny descriptive common names would be "hairy balls" or "family jewels" for Gomphocarpus. Reminds me of when I had a woman come into the store asking for a plant called "Chlamydia". "Chlamydia! You know! Long leaves, orange flowers... Chlamydia." She meant Clivia. : )
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