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Yeah, Dick Johnson used bolt in alloy roll cages in his Falcons only because of weight issues:  He's mentioned that if they had the money they should have gone for something better
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Oct 26, 2020 23:22
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Darchangel posted:Those clamps are steel, right? The clamps are indeed steel. Aluminium used in Australian rollcages was of a different and stronger grade than used elsewhere, hence a lot of howling happened when alloy cages were deemed illegal for new log booked cars in I think 1994. Australian style aluminium cages did not snap like O/S attempts. The issue was that steel resists being deformed so that it will try to spring back - Aluminium doesnt and thence cage collapse might be more likely to occur. It was only an issue if you were say Peter Grinrod hitting a fence post at 200kph sideways in a rally and barrel rolling your Commodore seven times and hammering the A-pillar down. Which to be fair, also was likely to happen on a steel cage without a Sainz Bar. You Am I posted:Yeah, Dick Johnson used bolt in alloy roll cages in his Falcons only because of weight issues: His sponsor was a tube miller. So I'm straight out calling BS on that one esp when Chrome-Moly was available from Palmers. He also collected gum trees at 140kph which would challenge even today's cages. Cage theory and design was also..... kinda poo poo in 1983 quote:t's got some real "overheard a conversation about bolt-in roll cages while 3 beers down in a crowded bar and just went for it" vibes to it. 1981 homologated cage, likely from Bond Roll Bars.
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Oct 27, 2020 00:02
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this is Berwick as gently caress by the way Rhyno posted:Fence posts they stole from across town. nahh, Packenham is just down the road
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Oct 27, 2020 00:08
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I'm just going by local trends. Steel scrappers usually steal a good distance from where they live.
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Oct 27, 2020 00:23
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Memento posted:this is Berwick as gently caress by the way Hah! It is. I grew up in Beaconsfield, between Berwick and Pakenham (no C) and yeah, Berwick is either new development bogans or old money snobs.
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Oct 27, 2020 03:16
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Sir, it might be time to address the rot on this car. 1) Jesus. I'm expecting the back half of that Cutlass to drop off any day now. Looks like the bumper tried to. 2) Not appreciating being bombarded by the related furry Twitter accounts.
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Oct 27, 2020 03:44
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Aluminium used in Australian rollcages was of a different and stronger grade than used elsewhere, hence a lot of howling happened when alloy cages were deemed illegal for new log booked cars in I think 1994. Australian style aluminium cages did not snap like O/S attempts. The issue was that steel resists being deformed so that it will try to spring back - Aluminium doesnt and thence cage collapse might be more likely to occur. It was only an issue if you were say Peter Grinrod hitting a fence post at 200kph sideways in a rally and barrel rolling your Commodore seven times and hammering the A-pillar down. Which to be fair, also was likely to happen on a steel cage without a Sainz Bar. There's also the thing where roll cages up until the late 70s where afaik all bolt-ins, and when weld-ins started showing up in force and turned out to be better in almost every way the days of alu cages where numbered, since welding alu to steel is still to this day kind of a poo poo show. Another problem if you're going for a welded alu cage is that if you don't heat treat it afterwards (which might be tricky when it's, you know, welded in place inside your car and also hard to verify that it has actually been done) your yield strength drops to a third or even less depending on the alloy.
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Oct 27, 2020 03:51
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Nidhg00670000 posted:There's also the thing where roll cages up until the late 70s where afaik all bolt-ins, and when weld-ins started showing up in force and turned out to be better in almost every way the days of alu cages where numbered, since welding alu to steel is still to this day kind of a poo poo show. Another problem if you're going for a welded alu cage is that if you don't heat treat it afterwards (which might be tricky when it's, you know, welded in place inside your car and also hard to verify that it has actually been done) your yield strength drops to a third or even less depending on the alloy. Cages weren't welded in as more of a rule until the early 90's, it even persisted at international level. What mostly happened with alloy cages is alloy cage was given tabs that you bolted the cage to the bodyshell - So for instance on a cage I had on a RX2, there was a plate put into the A and B pillars with captive nuts so that the cage tags would line up and you could then bolt the cage to the shell. Even with a steel cgae like my final RX2 coupe had, that was bolted to the shell (Cage homologation was 1991 in that case) - see BOM's Bargain Racement part 6 how effective that can be. We also in this case need to be more specific in saying this was in Australia due to the differences in access to aluminium that could be used as cage material and thence why it persisted longer here. In the end it's an old cage used in a much different time.... and I was about to say we've moved on but I've seen what some people call cages and yikes I'd almost prefer to use that 40 year old alloy thing.
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Oct 27, 2020 08:56
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:His sponsor was a tube miller. So I'm straight out calling BS on that one esp when Chrome-Moly was available from Palmers. He also collected gum trees at 140kph which would challenge even today's cages. Cage theory and design was also..... kinda poo poo in 1983 "No not really. It was still just an alloy roll cage, which had to be bolted to the shell everywhere because it's pretty hard to weld aluminium to steel" "I reckon if I had my time again and having seen the Steve Masterton car which had a welded chrome-moly (steel) cage in it, that would have been the better way to go"
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Oct 28, 2020 00:37
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Just spotted on a mushroom ID group:
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WTF, Lamborghini? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8XcIIWMBQ&t=491s Just go to where the oil filter location is revealed at 8:11. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 12:08
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Platystemon posted:WTF, Lamborghini? That's pretty bad but at the same time extremely impressive. At least it's on the cold side though, unlike the Subaru Ring of DeathTM.
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Oct 29, 2020 12:23
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With no experience in working on them, I must admit I assumed that cars at that level require you to drop the engine to do even the most basic maintenance.
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Oct 29, 2020 12:27
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That's pretty common placement on Italian engines of that sort; lots of Ferraris have it there too. At least the oil empties out by gravity so it doesn't ALL go everywhere
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Oct 29, 2020 12:28
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Putting this in here but imagine it's continuing on from self-driving car chat.  https://twitter.com/dogryan100/status/1321800383505657856?s=20 https://twitter.com/roborace/status/1321798841117642753?s=20 Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 15:07
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2021 BMW 4-series: 
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Oct 29, 2020 18:02
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That euro plate really helps take your eyes off that ridiculous gaping maw, and almost makes it look like there is a horizontal crossbar behind it which would help a lot. Stubby little US plates are gonna look real dumb (as always). One of the very few cars that looks better with a front plate, and that they have one on in these promo shots means they know it. Still doesn't fix that drat stupid grille.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:07
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Grille makes me want some waffles.
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Oct 29, 2020 18:17
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What's up doc?
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Oct 29, 2020 18:19
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The Autoblog article the pictures came from was generally positive on the car, but summed it up as "Besides that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
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Oct 29, 2020 18:32
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Watch it'll be like Richard Hammond being like "I choose to drive this car because that way I don't have to look at it" *catches a glimpse of it in a reflection* "AAAHH IT'S HORRIBLE"
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Oct 29, 2020 18:38
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The only way they could make it worse is put it up on stilts, cover the wheel arches with black plastic and call it a sports-activity vehicle.
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Oct 29, 2020 21:26
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Well, they can't make the maw anymore gaping without making the car taller so presumably that will be the next version
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Oct 29, 2020 22:57
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Platystemon posted:WTF, Lamborghini? Since that uses a separate filter could you not make the "filter cup" walls higher so the filter can sit completely inside. When changing the filter you could suck out the old oil and not spill anything.
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Oct 30, 2020 02:32
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Saukkis posted:Since that uses a separate filter could you not make the "filter cup" walls higher so the filter can sit completely inside. When changing the filter you could suck out the old oil and not spill anything. Yes, making modifications to a high strung low production supercar motor to make changing the oil easier sounds like a great idea. Do you realize just not using the dealership for service at just one interval cuts literally tens of thousands of dollars of value off of one of those things? It's not a regular car valued in regular ways that is purchased by regular buyers.
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Odds are the filter and housing are a part they get from VW/audi for cheap, so it gets fit on and they focus on something else. Lambo may be a high end manufacturer, but they will save money where they can to help that whole low volume, high margin thing they got going on. The headlights on the diablo come to mind here. They bought the design for the 300z's headlights and dropped them in. If you see an early diablo with a bar across the headlights, its actually there to cover up the nissan logo on some of them. Pinch pennies where you can, use the money building up/tuning the motor for another 50hp dickwaving.
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Elmnt80 posted:If you see an early diablo with a bar across the headlights, its actually there to cover up the nissan logo on some of them. no way, lmao
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Code Jockey posted:no way, lmao Ab-so-lutely  There are several examples of climate control panels, I think the rear lights of a Zonda are off of some Daewoo. The Esprit had Corolla tail lights. The 944 might as well have had Volvo tail lights. And then the tons of things with Hella round rear/marker lights - everything from heavy equipment to hypercars. Lights are hard. And expensive, because they need to be certified.
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Code Jockey posted:no way, lmao 100% true. Parts bin sharing are super common like Motronic said. For similar reasons take a good look at motorhomes next time you have the opportunity to. They are the real mutts. And it's not just light assemblies, you'll find head units/HVAC controls shared over makes.
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The Pagani Zonda uses the climate control panel from the Rover 45. The Lambo Murcielago uses the climate control from the Rover 45 with remoulded buttons.
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Oct 31, 2020 01:20
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Oct 31, 2020 02:18
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Steve French posted:
? Is that about the snorkel? I mean, I get it but also I've put snorkels on poo poo that absolutely can NOT get their hood under the water without serious repercussions just so I could be behind anyone on a dusty trail ride and not have to stop and bang out my air filer every 30 minutes.
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Motronic posted:? I mean, I don't know poo poo about snorkels so I'm happy to admit this is the wrong thread; I just wanted to share either way because it appeared to be made out of ABS pipe which amused me
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Oct 31, 2020 02:44
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There is a shitload of fine moon dust around here this time of year so if that's functional for that purpose then I can definitely dig that home depot job. This was today 
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Oct 31, 2020 02:49
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Motronic posted:Ab-so-lutely Oh my god I had no idea and I'll never be able to unsee that.
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Steve French posted:I mean, I don't know poo poo about snorkels so I'm happy to admit this is the wrong thread; I just wanted to share either way because it appeared to be made out of ABS pipe which amused me Yeah, that can still work out. I get it, but it's entirely possible this is functional.
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