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Bobby Deluxe posted:That's important to remember as well. There's a feeling somewhere between solidarity and schadenfreude in knowing that other people are not ok with this, that you are not alone. For the longest time I was stressed and sad because none of this poo poo made sense to me, but everyone around me seemed fine with it. While it is genuinely helpful to know I'm not alone in my misery, especially since my misery comes from my health (and politicians telling me I deserve to die for being unable to work), that line's the last we see of Doctor Weir before he goes all "where we're going, we won't need eyes to see".
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Oct 31, 2020 09:37
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https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1322434930673131520 4000 people a day, Christ.
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Oct 31, 2020 09:44
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Still shaking my head in disbelief at how badly Starmer screwed up the release of the anti semitism report, lol.
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Thanks very much Cosmo’s in Doncaster for letting us sit in and eat, knowing that you were going to Tier 3 at midnight. Of course if the NHS app actually told you the risks of the area you were *in* and not your own fecking postcode...
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I just want to make sure I am correct that I think schools staying open during a lockdown is utterly pointless. Is that a correct assumption? I am just trying to figure out why there are rules where a family cannot visit their grandparents but it is ok to send a child to a school of 1400 people from different families and I cannot think of anything non cynical. If there is a genuine reason I have completely missed reading or hearing about it.
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VideoGames posted:I just want to make sure I am correct that I think schools staying open during a lockdown is utterly pointless. Is that a correct assumption? Schools contain children while the parents work.
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Biggus Dickus posted:Thanks very much Cosmo’s in Doncaster for letting us sit in and eat, knowing that you were going to Tier 3 at midnight. The risk was essentially identical to you either way
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Oct 31, 2020 10:13
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VideoGames posted:I just want to make sure I am correct that I think schools staying open during a lockdown is utterly pointless. Is that a correct assumption? I think it's because closed schools mean parents can't go to work which results in damage to the economy. The govt is trying to balance minimising economic damage against an 'acceptable' number of deaths while constantly glancing back at the headlines, not entirely unlike that old dril tweet https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732
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Convex posted:I think it's because closed schools mean parents can't go to work which results in damage to the economy. The govt is trying to balance minimising economic damage against an 'acceptable' number of deaths while constantly glancing back at the headlines, not entirely unlike that old dril tweet Except that as has been proved over and over, you can’t protect the economy while people are scared of contracting a potentially deadly virus. The best thing for every country would have been to just take a ‘year off’ as it were and reduce consumption (and thus required workers) to a minimum but alas, capitalism will stand for nothing but ceaseless expansion.
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Oct 31, 2020 10:28
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1322434930673131520 A small price to pay for me being able to go to Ladbrooks iyam
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VideoGames posted:I just want to make sure I am correct that I think schools staying open during a lockdown is utterly pointless. Is that a correct assumption? Because if we fill their heads with useless nonsense, they will be unable rebell once they realise that the roaming bike gangs will not factor in their knowlege of the Mitochondria in their decision to bash their heads in. Though to be fair they wouldn't care about any of the useful information schools are heavily discouraged from teaching kids ether but I'd like to think that my snark stands.
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For kids under the age of 11ish they don't seem to be very infectious and the academic and social damage probably means schools should be closing as late as possible. No reason for secondary school kids to be at school though- they are old enough to learn online (although you've got the inequality issues of the poorest not having devices or space.)
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Oct 31, 2020 10:56
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You have to cancel the guardian membership over the phone? Please make this illegal.
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Dugong posted:You have to cancel the guardian membership over the phone? Please make this illegal. I've got good news. I will make it illegal to have Guardian membership when I'm God King of the Imperium of Man
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Oct 31, 2020 11:04
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Dugong posted:You have to cancel the guardian membership over the phone? Please make this illegal. Just... stop paying it? And send them an email saying I’ve stopped paying this, please cancel the subscription?
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MeinPanzer posted:Thanks, everyone, for the advice. We'd just moved to the UK when we moved into this place and we were desperate to find something. We've written back to the landlord with a reasonable point-by-point response, so we'll see what she says. Try posting in the renting forum over on Moneysavingexpert, some of the posters there really know their poo poo about these kinds of issues. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/house-buying-renting-selling
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VideoGames posted:I just want to make sure I am correct that I think schools staying open during a lockdown is utterly pointless. Is that a correct assumption? Serious answer. I believe the thinking is that schools are technically ‘Covid secure’, so among other measures, surfaces that may carry the virus would be regularly cleaned and disinfected, like walls, door handles, light switches etc. The same is not necessarily true for grandparents or other friends/family members houses. I’m not saying it’s correct, but that’s one of the main justifications.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:No reason for secondary school kids to be at school though- they are old enough to learn online (although you've got the inequality issues of the poorest not having devices or space.) It’s not just that though. We were looking at the stats for the last lockdown and our school only had 40% take up for online learning. The biggest issue we found is that without rigid timing for a school day the pupils would just not plan their day properly. One pupil tried doing a school day from 9am to 8pm and was surprised to see little to no work completed regularly. Other issues were lack of study space, sharing the same room with your siblings screaming around the house is not the most productive of environments. We also had some pupils being used as baby sitters, so they just had no time to work at all.
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Catzilla posted:Serious answer. I believe the thinking is that schools are technically ‘Covid secure’, so among other measures, surfaces that may carry the virus would be regularly cleaned and disinfected, like walls, door handles, light switches etc. The same is not necessarily true for grandparents or other friends/family members houses. My sister got a message from her academy chain saying make sure the caretakers know they’re the most important people in the school right now, they’re letting us stay open! She wrote back saying should we think about giving them a Christmas bonus then but has not yet had a reply.
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Catzilla posted:Serious answer. I believe the thinking is that schools are technically ‘Covid secure’, so among other measures, surfaces that may carry the virus would be regularly cleaned and disinfected, like walls, door handles, light switches etc. The same is not necessarily true for grandparents or other friends/family members houses. I haven't been in many schools since September, but I'd be surprised if the number taking a rigorous approach to infection control and maintaining bubbles is close to 50%. Schools don't have the manpower to do that and still keep supporting children with their learning. If the choice is between cleaning surfaces touched by someone outside of their bubble, or keeping a child safe if they're run out of class, staff will choose the latter 100% of the time.
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Catzilla posted:Serious answer. I believe the thinking is that schools are technically ‘Covid secure’, so among other measures, surfaces that may carry the virus would be regularly cleaned and disinfected, like walls, door handles, light switches etc. The same is not necessarily true for grandparents or other friends/family members houses. What are kids doing during breaks though? Are they required to keep a distance while playing outside? I just can't comprehend how a playground full of kids is any safer than a pub full of big kids.
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Honest question but why is "deaths within 28 days of test" lower than "deaths due to Covid-19" here?
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stev posted:What are kids doing during breaks though? Are they required to keep a distance while playing outside? Being outside vastly reduces your chances of catching the virus, not that you can play outside much in this weather. Also the surface cleaning stuff us wholly unnecessary at this point - not a single covid vase worldwide has been linked to picking it up from a surface - covid is an airborne disease, it spreads by being indoors without ventilation and when people speak without a mask (hmmm restaurants and bars...) Schools are tricky though - as pointed out many kids just can't do online learning, but an indoor space where you're being talked at for hours on end is a pretty good way to spread covid. Nothingtoseehere fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Not So Fast posted:Honest question but why is "deaths within 28 days of test" lower than "deaths due to Covid-19" here? Some people will probably hang on a bit longer than 28 days of their positive test. By definition it would also include anyone who died of non-Covid related reasons after the test. So if you had a positive test, recovered in 2 weeks and went on a bender and fell out the window, you'll be part of that statistic. Also it says "COVID-19 oon death certificate". Your death cert comes with 4 blanks 1a, 1b, 1c and 2. Section 1(a,b,c) is primary cause of death, section 2 is any contributory factors. So if you caught COVID and died of it, you would have 1a - COVID. If you caught covid, went to hospital and recovered, but because your nursing home refused to take you back due to a lack of beds and you caught MRSA/a urine infection/fell and hit your head in hospital and died of that, you would have 2. COVID instead.
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https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1322484349321838592?s=20 Do you think Boris really doesn't know it's Cummie who is leaking? At this point my opinion of Boris is so low that I could believe he's that loving dumb
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/RobDotHutton/status/1322484349321838592?s=20 I wouldn't be surprised if it were Sunak, who has been anti-lockdown from the start, hoping to create a backlash - quite a few papers, especially the Mail, have been very much against another national lockdown.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I wouldn't be surprised if it were Sunak, who has been anti-lockdown from the start, hoping to create a backlash - quite a few papers, especially the Mail, have been very much against another national lockdown. The other option is it's just more dead cat stuff, if it gets people talking about the leak rather than the impending lockdown & 4000 deaths per day baby
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forkboy84 posted:4000 deaths per day baby How can we stop this baby? I believe they're usually small and vulnerable and if the baby is definitely responsible for such a high death toll then extreme measures might be justified.
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Catzilla posted:Serious answer. I believe the thinking is that schools are technically ‘Covid secure’, so among other measures, surfaces that may carry the virus would be regularly cleaned and disinfected, like walls, door handles, light switches etc. The same is not necessarily true for grandparents or other friends/family members houses. Policy v reality. I can only talk about my school, but I can't see it being vastly different than the average school. Our policies say all keyboards will be wiped down at the start and end of lesson with the same wet wipe. (Yes the wet wipe will have sat on the side next to the computer and dried out during the lesson). In reality, some teachers enforce this but many don't. Policies say all students hand sanitise on entering and exiting the classroom. Reality is that certainly doesn't happen. Never seen any of those shared surfaces being wiped down during the day. Desks get wiped down by cleaners at the end of the day, but at least in the room I stay in after school none of the others do. Policy says you must wait 48 hours after collecting books to mark them and 48 hours more to hand them back. 72 if they've backed it in plastic. Mixed uptake by teachers. Policy says no sharing of equipment between students. That's not really followed much, students definitely still lend each other glue. Policy says no turning and talking to the person next to you. Hah. Yeah right. stev posted:What are kids doing during breaks though? Are they required to keep a distance while playing outside? They stay outside in the playground. They aren't supposed to be making any contact, but that's very loosely enforced so not always followed. If it's raining, then they go inside and it's just like being in a class except they're not supervised so are closer and noisier. Main issue with lockdown for schools is access to education & impact on mental wellbeing of many students. The government brought in the legislation that all schools had to have a remote teaching plan by the start of October (cue lots of rushed training about MS Teams/Google Classroom) however as we all know access to technology to access that learning is massively restricted and not something that the government seems to be doing much to improve. Sad Panda fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Sanford posted:Just... stop paying it? And send them an email saying I’ve stopped paying this, please cancel the subscription? Yeah this. It's not like a utility/mobile bill where it shows up on your credit report.
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I am beginning to think that Keith is Labour's Bojo. He wants to be PM, he knows he can be PM, he knows how to be PM, he just doesn't know why beyond a desire to "govern sensibly". Look at his handling of the left, it isn't malice, it's the desire to never cause a single wave ever.
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notaspy posted:He wants to be PM, he knows he can be PM, he knows how to be PM, he just doesn't know why beyond a desire to "govern sensibly". Well, does that really describe Johnson except for the first two, and he's probably reconsidering the first one.
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notaspy posted:I am beginning to think that Keith is Labour's Bojo. Bojo's actually got a personality though. Keith might as well be a reject from the RealDoll factory.
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notaspy posted:Look at his handling of the left, it isn't malice, it's the desire to never cause a single wave ever. I don't think I am seeing what you are seeing.
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notaspy posted:I am beginning to think that Keith is Labour's Bojo. If that last line was true he'd not have suspended Corbyn & removed the whip. He'd not have purged any left voices from his cabinet. Anyway, here's Peter Oborne, former Spectator Political Editor & writer for among others the Mail & Telegraph, with an extremely reasonable take https://twitter.com/OborneTweets/status/1322463086180212736?s=20
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Schools are tricky though - as pointed out many kids just can't do online learning, but an indoor space where you're being talked at for hours on end is a pretty good way to spread covid. So are the buses children may use to get to school.
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Z the IVth posted:Bojo's actually got a personality though. Keith might as well be a reject from the RealDoll factory.
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