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Vinylshadow posted:I'd completely forgotten about Temuera's casting, so I was watching the episode thinking "Ah, so they're using this to finally tell us Boba's dead and gone" Raises questions though, it seems like if he wanted his armour back from Cobb he could have got it, plus if he's alive how did he get seperate from it? And given I think at least three characters are known to be alive that look exactly like Temuera there's still an element of surprise. Logically the character at the end of the so, being completely bald, looks like Gregor, I believe the only one of the post-CW clone characters to due. Ringo Star Get posted:I just want all the art from the credits to hang up in my house. So much this, it's such a great look into the craft of the show. As if the themetune and guest stars under heavy prophetics didn't justify watching the credits already.
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Oct 31, 2020 17:20
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Ringo Star Get posted:I just want all the art from the credits to hang up in my house. Season One concept art album Art and Imagery Collector's Edition vol 1 We'll likely have something similar once the season ends BizarroAzrael posted:Raises questions though, it seems like if he wanted his armour back from Cobb he could have got it, plus if he's alive how did he get seperate from it? I guess the Sarlacc spat him out a few years after trying to digest him, and he was robbed while he was unconscious He might also not feel a connection to the armor like other Mandos, if you want to take the "not an actual Mando" at face value
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Oct 31, 2020 17:24
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nine-gear crow posted:Also Mando's set like 30 years after Mandalore got the poo poo kicked out of it by the Empire and its people scattered to the galactic winds. That hadn't happened yet in Clone Wars and still relatively fresh by the time of Rebels. So I'm guessing the "don't take the helmet off" thing is relatively recent development and in response to the whole Mandalorian diaspora thing. This is my reading of it, as well--the Empire deciding that Mandalore is too much trouble to keep around and just straight-up genociding them lead to the adoption of extreme level 9000 secrecy. Come to think of it, since Mandalore was mostly irradiated wasteland with domed cities already, wiping it out wouldn't have been that tall an order.
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Oct 31, 2020 17:45
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Honestly the Mando heritage thing has never really meant much for Boba Fett. It was more Jango's deal and as far as that's concerned the True Mandalorians died with him given how Death Watch and the Supercommandos made up the bulk of militant Mandos in the Clone Wars. Even the old canon Boba Fett never really cared much for Mandalore and only became the big boss because it was forced on him and most of his Mando contacts argued he was a pretty poo poo leader. He's always been a bounty hunter first and foremost, trying to thrust the crusading warrior mercenary code onto him has been a side note forever.
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Oct 31, 2020 17:53
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I liked that Boba Fett is of a somewhat average height, and Timothy Olyphant's pretty tall, so the armor is only barely big enough to cover his sternum.
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Oct 31, 2020 18:11
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I thought Jango and by extension, Boba, weren't actually Mandalorians at all.
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Oct 31, 2020 18:13
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:I thought Jango and by extension, Boba, weren't actually Mandalorians at all. Depends on who you ask, both in universe and the real world. Even the Mandalorians on the whole can't decide who is and isn't legit. Almec is the only guy in the canon who refutes Jango's heritage but he's also a death watch sympathizer covering his rear end to try and keep their planned takeover under wraps. And really, it doesn't matter if the Fetts are Mando or not, they're better known as bounty hunters anyhow. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Oct 31, 2020 18:16
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Vinylshadow posted:Season One concept art album Honestly i always thought Din's people are basically trying to preserve a weeb version of Mandalorian culture and the actual mandalorians probably don't care about it quite as much.
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Oct 31, 2020 18:39
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The singular complaint I have about the show is that the main characters are a man who can't show his face and a puppet, so a lot of the reaction shots have to go to side characters and a lot of the emotional moments don't quite land. Making it so Mando won't remove his helmet was an odd choice really.
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Oct 31, 2020 18:53
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How do you feel about people reacting to R2D2?
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Oct 31, 2020 18:57
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It still bothers me he has a mustache under there.
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Oct 31, 2020 18:59
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PriorMarcus posted:The singular complaint I have about the show is that the main characters are a man who can't show his face and a puppet, so a lot of the reaction shots have to go to side characters and a lot of the emotional moments don't quite land. Counterpoint: It's great and allows the puppet's expressions to be somehow more poignant. The side characters surrounding Din are now kind of the focal point of the series which lets the show runners keep it fresh since Din is kind of a blank-ish slate that people can paint whatever feelings they want onto. It's kind of brilliant really. The core duo is a stoic badass and a more or less innocent child. Everything happening around them is what colors the world and how they're moving through it but that core dynamic stays true no matter what happens.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:02
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I'll take a hundred mandos acting through minimalist body language before I sit through another game of thrones where people speak in monotone to show how grown up and mature they are.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:10
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PriorMarcus posted:The singular complaint I have about the show is that the main characters are a man who can't show his face and a puppet, so a lot of the reaction shots have to go to side characters and a lot of the emotional moments don't quite land. Will disagree wholeheartedly, it’s a huge strength of the show and refreshingly different.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:14
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PriorMarcus posted:The singular complaint I have about the show is that the main characters are a man who can't show his face and a puppet, so a lot of the reaction shots have to go to side characters and a lot of the emotional moments don't quite land. True, but Episode 4 really showcased how that could be used brilliantly. It just takes some good direction.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:17
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thrawn527 posted:Christopher Nolan famously did it for The Dark Knight for the opening bank robbery scene, and a few other scenes if I remember correctly. Pretty sure he did it in Dark Knight Rises and Interstellar, too. The theatrical release of Galaxy Quest had the opening 'show within a show' scene in TV 4:3 ratio, 'real life' in 1.85:1 'standard widescreen' ratio, and 2.35:1 'cinematic widescreen' ratio when they arrive on the bridge of the ship, as I recall. The DVD omitted one of those AR changes, and I remember it being a point of contention at the time, when DVD fans felt like second-class citizens, and were always harping about 'day and date' releases alongside VHS and bitching about needing to buy the Japanese LD of Phantom Menace. Oh, and eternal flame wars about DD vs DTS because DTS usually had over-cooked sound mixes compared to DD. Back on topic: were the doggies the Tuskens had supposed to be vornskyrs from the original Zahn novels?
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Oct 31, 2020 19:50
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Nah; they're the same doggos they had in AotC. Anakin kills a couple.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:52
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Arcsquad12 posted:I'll take a hundred mandos acting through minimalist body language before I sit through another game of thrones where people speak in monotone to show how grown up and mature they are. GoT character: Oh you asked me a simple question? Let me answer with a long winded anecdote like real people totally do.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:55
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jivjov posted:The implication is that the group Din belongs to is hyper fundamentalist, what with the "never remove your helmet" rule and the "this is the way" call and response. This. I always thought the idea is that Din is like "ultra-orthodox Mandalorian," where Clan Wren is more like "observant Mandalorian."
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Oct 31, 2020 19:56
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Tom Tucker posted:Yes the poster is saying it could have used some set up earlier in the episode since it was so important in the end. I had no idea what he was using so just assumed some cool Magical Mandalorian Armor Nonsense which is fine by me. You mean the Whistling Birds? They were introduced and featured heavily in the third episode last season.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:07
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TK-42-1 posted:Counterpoint: It's great and allows the puppet's expressions to be somehow more poignant. The side characters surrounding Din are now kind of the focal point of the series which lets the show runners keep it fresh since Din is kind of a blank-ish slate that people can paint whatever feelings they want onto. It's kind of brilliant really. The core duo is a stoic badass and a more or less innocent child. Everything happening around them is what colors the world and how they're moving through it but that core dynamic stays true no matter what happens. It's a space-western. Din is literally the Man With No Name who blows into town, fixes a problem, and leaves. The 80s Incredible Hulk show was the same concept. Conversing with the 'natives' through sign language, brokering an uneasy peace between the 'local savages' and the 'poor townsfolk in a barely-hanging-on-mining-town' is classic. Hell, Cara Dune is literally the 'retired soldier from the Civil War who doesn't know how to do anything but fight.' I once heard somebody describe The Mandalorian as good because, much like the original Star Wars, it's taking something else and putting a Star Wars spin on it, while the three sequel movies are bad, because they're taking Star Wars, and trying to put a Star Wars spin on it.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:07
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Yeah except only one of the ST is actively bad.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:11
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Preemptive can we please not have sequel chat in the Mandalorian thread again?
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Oct 31, 2020 20:21
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Thundercracker posted:GoT character: Oh you asked me a simple question? Let me answer with a long winded anecdote like real people totally do. Getting raped by Ramsay made me into the woman I am today! Theres a lot to hate in season 8 but that has to be up there as one of if not the worst parts.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:26
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Panzeh posted:Honestly i always thought Din's people are basically trying to preserve a weeb version of Mandalorian culture and the actual mandalorians probably don't care about it quite as much. So Din is like Worf
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Oct 31, 2020 20:28
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:So Din is like Worf If Worf ever met a convent of likeminded Klingon weebs.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:So Din is like Worf Is Boba Fett Martok?
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Oct 31, 2020 21:17
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Its Rinaldo posted:Is Boba Fett Martok? We'll have to see his drinking habits in upcoming episodes before we can say yes or no.
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Oct 31, 2020 21:22
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Arcsquad12 posted:If Worf ever met a convent of likeminded Klingon weebs. The guys on that one planet with the Kahless clone?
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Oct 31, 2020 21:38
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If the Mando fought Worf, the universe would collapse because how could Mando dunk on Worf to show that he's a badass, but how would he do that if his flamethrower can't work against Worf?
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Oct 31, 2020 21:40
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:I thought Jango and by extension, Boba, weren't actually Mandalorians at all. Currently, we don't know. In the original canon Jango was a proper adopted Mandalorian who had been fighting with them for years before becoming a bounty hunter, but the new canon has said nothing about his backstory except Almec (who was the Prime Minister of Mandalore and thus has some clout) saying he was just a bounty hunter who stole some armor. It hasn't been revealed yet if this is true or if he really was a Mandalorian of a sect that broke off from the rest and he's been un-personed by the Mandalorian government. The exact truth may or may not come out during this show because I could see it being a big part of what happens when Boba Fett inevitably tries to take his armor back. If Din Djarin knows Jango really was a fraud, then his son is an imposter just the same and doesn't deserve the armor even if it's "his". If Jango was a true Mandalorian who's just the subject of a schism, then it becomes more complicated.
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Oct 31, 2020 23:22
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PriorMarcus posted:The singular complaint I have about the show is that the main characters are a man who can't show his face and a puppet, so a lot of the reaction shots have to go to side characters and a lot of the emotional moments don't quite land. A good chunk of audience empathising with characters is based on the circumstance and the audience projecting it rather than the facial expression itself so it's not too bad for me. The scene in epsiode 3 where he's deciding whether to go back for the kid was clear enough for me without seeing his face. And lol, looking for gifs of the Kuleshov effect, one of the first images was from the Mandalorian
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Oct 31, 2020 23:54
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This show getting into schisms and religious differences would detract so much from what makes it good that i assume they’ll just make it as simple as possible
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Oct 31, 2020 23:55
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Fett being Mando or not is an answer to a question that is really irrelevant. Its basically "we want this cool character to be part of this cool group so he can he double cool!" that's what the debate abiut Mandalorian heritage has always been for Boba.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Fett being Mando or not is an answer to a question that is really irrelevant. Its basically "we want this cool character to be part of this cool group so he can he double cool!" that's what the debate abiut Mandalorian heritage has always been for Boba. It's irrelevant until you try to write a plot that may require you to go back and use stuff already established in the canon to figure out how characters will react and get a good resolution. Din Djarin being violently protective of Mandalorian armor and Boba Fett possibly being the son of an impersonator who's willing to kill to get his armor back from him is ripe with conflict.
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chitoryu12 posted:It's irrelevant until you try to write a plot that may require you to go back and use stuff already established in the canon to figure out how characters will react and get a good resolution. Din Djarin being violently protective of Mandalorian armor and Boba Fett possibly being the son of an impersonator who's willing to kill to get his armor back from him is ripe with conflict. I just don't think they need to do more with Fett. He's alive, he's been living on Tatooine since escaping the Sarlacc and he might as well have moved on with his life for all we know. I'd be perfectly happy if that stinger was the last we see of him. Just an acknowledgment of a thing that happened and then back to the daily adventures of baby yoda and buckethead.
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Nov 1, 2020 02:16
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Isn't Sabine Wren in this season? I feel like there's no way to avoid Mandolaorian politics if "they" show up. Maybe it all started over a trade embargo
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Arcsquad12 posted:I just don't think they need to do more with Fett. He's alive, he's been living on Tatooine since escaping the Sarlacc and he might as well have moved on with his life for all we know. I'd be perfectly happy if that stinger was the last we see of him. Just an acknowledgment of a thing that happened and then back to the daily adventures of baby yoda and buckethead. They don't need to, but, I think Fett (and maybe throw in Sabine too) could make a really cool ideological conflict episode between Mandalorians.
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