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Josef bugman posted:Say the people of Leicester. Yes! Leicester being derived from the roman "leaaistre" meaning "precisely in the loving middle" Sloth Life fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Josef bugman posted:Are you saying that people showing up for marches caused people to essentially go "It's only soft Londoners who don't want Brexit"? Like is the animus so raw that if someone in the South does something someone in the North would choose to do the opposite out of spite? Absolutely.
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Oct 31, 2020 23:40
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Guavanaut posted:The North is weird because Mablethorpe (53.3409° N, 0.2611° E) is definitely in the Midlands, but Northwich (53.2587° N, 2.5181° W) is definitely in the North. Northwich is not definitely the north, at most it is the border of the north.
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Oct 31, 2020 23:41
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I'll tell you what, Chris Whitty's memoirs are going to be fascinating, assuming MI5 don't murder him before he's able to release them.
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Oct 31, 2020 23:44
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https://labourlist.org/2020/10/excl...CND5FzC0To0Fej8quote:As the general secretaries of trade unions affiliated to the Labour Party we seek to put on record our serious concerns about the manner of and rationale for suspension of the former party leader Jeremy Corbyn from the Labour Party.
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Oct 31, 2020 23:46
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elbkaida posted:Sounds like you've been fighting a successful battle, keep it up! Was out to pick up some essentials earlier, after seeing the queues at the big Tesco turned around and picked stuff up (downsized to the barest essentials) at my local corner shop instead. On the way back passed a couple of cafes with about a dozen people inside sitting shoulder-to-shoulder and a group of trick-or-treating kids. Business as usual, but I'm sure that will do a 180 as the clocks strike midnight on Thursday and everyone will dutifully stay at home, and not interact with more than one person their household, and only outside. (Apart from the people they work with or go to school with or take a train with or, or, or...)
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Oct 31, 2020 23:53
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So with this new lockdown, is anything actually locked down? Like, are my friends who work in non-essential retail still going to work on Monday or not?
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Oct 31, 2020 23:55
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jaete posted:So with this new lockdown, is anything actually locked down? Like, are my friends who work in non-essential retail still going to work on Monday or not? yes, because it doesn't start until Thursday
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Nov 1, 2020 00:00
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Also it has to be voted through in the commons to become law. And there's a significant possibility of a backbench rebellion of murderous cunts.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:02
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learnincurve posted:I don’t know how many of you are following me on Twitter - it’s @ learnincurve11 and I’ve got all the “how to get food to your house without leaving it” for poor people person information, feel free to DM on there or here. I will be updating information about when delivery slots are released on there, because you just know the middle classes are 12 hours away from breaking just in time again. Can't remember if I said thank you on Twitter for the tip on the Morrisons box, it's extremely needs-suiting for a Sunday afternoon spent cooking and freezing. In case I didn't, thank you for the tip on the Morrisons box, it's extremely needs-suiting for a Sunday afternoon spent cooking and freezing.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:03
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The Perfect Element posted:Also it has to be voted through in the commons to become law. And there's a significant possibility of a backbench rebellion of murderous cunts. I can’t see Labour voting against it though. Abstaining maybe since it’s Kieth’s second favourite thing, just after giving the government his full support
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Nov 1, 2020 00:08
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ok, it makes sense then that Johnson was like 3 hours late with the announcement that eventually there will be some vote i guess, and maybe after that they will do some kind of lockdown or not solid competence and communication from the govt as always
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Nov 1, 2020 00:11
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Jose posted:I'm saying calling northerners Tories and believing London to be socialist is stupid as gently caress Yes, London is full of Tories like Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott while the northerners elect socialist firebrands like Rishi Sunak and Ben Bradley.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:15
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I agree that Nottingham is in the midland, but I have friends who live there who swear down it's the North and I like winding them up about it.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:19
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This is a dumb argument.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:21
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notaspy posted:Nottingham - The North or not? Anything north of Bovey Tracey is the North. Great to see the vulnerable told to pay special attention to the rules and gently caress all else. Thanks Boris. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Nov 1, 2020 |
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Nov 1, 2020 00:28
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yes, London is full of Tories like Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott while the northerners elect socialist firebrands like Rishi Sunak and Ben Bradley. Who is the current prime minister who London picked to be mayor for a long time?
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Nov 1, 2020 00:30
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Just lmao forever at your example
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Jose posted:Who is the current prime minister who London picked to be mayor for a long time? They clearly learned their loving lesson there.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:32
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stev posted:They clearly learned their loving lesson there. Not really london is diverse as they're so quick to remind us
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Nov 1, 2020 00:33
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You could even argue he only reason he's pm is because London thought he was a good mayor lol
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Nov 1, 2020 00:34
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I think we might need to get past the idea that a person's geographical location defines them if humanity is going to ever make any progress toward being less of a bunch of stupid cunts tbqh
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Nov 1, 2020 00:34
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Jose is good people but rabidly belligerent about defending the north e: I went to Newcastle many years ago and had curry at Rupali in Bigg Market because it was in the Viz once. Now its closed down. Thats my story of the north. kecske fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Nov 1, 2020 |
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Nov 1, 2020 00:38
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Don’t listen to Jose the Northern Tory mod.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:42
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I don't think it's a crazy take to say that large swathes of the north are very much on the wrong side of the culture war, even if a lot of deeper values in the north are still quite left wing. And trying to say that London isn't lefty is pretty mad. I say this as a northerner who really likes the north and will probably be leaving London to move back up here more permanently some time soon.
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Nov 1, 2020 00:43
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Darth Walrus posted:Steve Baker, too: It's been an experience watching most politicians treat this virus as a PR problem, that can be spun against, blustered at, massaged and distracted from until it stops making headlines and thus goes away. Baker has the look of someone who went into a room thinking that, and then basically got Venkman's speech to the Mayor from Ghostbusters screamed at him for six hours until some part of his brain snapped and realised what a real catastrophe we're facing.
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jabby posted:It's been an experience watching most politicians treat this virus as a PR problem, that can be spun against, blustered at, massaged and distracted from until it stops making headlines and thus goes away. This has been Johnson's entire career. Sort yourself & your mates out, bullshit and bluster, oh poo poo, don't worry something else will crop up, it always does, fail upward. Nowhere to go but down now.
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a good point: https://twitter.com/DavidCollinsST/status/1322648119411179521 something must have really scared the whole cabinet, as that Owen Jones tweet suggests
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Jose posted:You could even argue he only reason he's pm is because London thought he was a good mayor lol I could argue that the only reason he's PM is because 365 seats elected Conservatives and a whole loving lot of those seats were in the north in London, not so much
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biglads posted:This has been Johnson's entire career. Sort yourself & your mates out, bullshit and bluster, oh poo poo, don't worry something else will crop up, it always does, fail upward.
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communism bitch posted:He's sorted. He's just got to hang in till he reaches two years as PM to get his £100k a year pension, and then he can gently caress off for a consequence-free career making £50k a pop speaking engagements and a bunch of non-executive directorships where he's paid tens or hundreds of thousands a year for doing literally nothing. Everybody knows he's a loving lazy poo poo, and being Prime Minister will be the hardest he's ever had to work or will have to work. But he's sorted for life after this poo poo. With any luck he’ll be crushed under the weight of his large baby before then
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the fact is I'm still more welcome here than I would be in loving bedford
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ronya posted:a good point: It's that slide modelling between 2,000 and 4,000 deaths a day over the whole Christmas period and well into next year. You can have all the positive spin in the world, but people will remember a Christmas like that. Especially if the rest of Europe (and even the rest of the UK) have gotten their outbreaks under control by then. communism bitch posted:He's sorted. He's just got to hang in till he reaches two years as PM to get his £100k a year pension, and then he can gently caress off for a consequence-free career making £50k a pop speaking engagements and a bunch of non-executive directorships where he's paid tens or hundreds of thousands a year for doing literally nothing. Everybody knows he's a loving lazy poo poo, and being Prime Minister will be the hardest he's ever had to work or will have to work. But he's sorted for life after this poo poo. He was already set for life before he became PM, all he's done since is complain his salary has gone down. I don't think this has anything to do with money, it's all about power, one-upping his buddies from Eton and fulfilling his born-to-rule ambitions.
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ronya posted:something must have really scared the whole cabinet, as that Owen Jones tweet suggests too bad it's 9 loving months too late
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Julio Cruz posted:I could argue that the only reason he's PM is because 365 seats elected Conservatives and a whole loving lot of those seats were in the north A fair amount of those seats were turned from other parties, like Labour, mostly because they did virtually nothing for the downward slide on their communities and people voted for someone else. Doesn't help that the people in charge of the purse strings in London starved those councils of cash on purpose to get such a reaction now, does it. There were also a bunch of useless, melty assholes in a few of those seats. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Nov 1, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:Everything below 54 degrees is southern. "Shadwell hated all southerners and, by inference, was standing at the North Pole." - Terry Pratchett, Good Omens
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, it's literally true though? London afaik is pretty consistently more left wing than most of the country. The north is full of tories because it's full of old farts and farmers. I think that everywhere south of Perth is the south
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jaete posted:too bad it's 9 loving months too late what surprised me about a lot of the earlier science advisory is that the public health epidemiologists were bundling 'thick' assumptions about backlash and public support and then when given an inch, a gnosiophobic populist administration seized on it and dragged the idea a mile, whipping up additional backlash for cheap wins ultimately it's not on technical expertise to anticipate political executive decisionmaking - rather the converse - but one has the sense that policymakers tacitly assumed a technocratic government that would err on the side of 'elf and 'afety - that would need to be warned that people are not obedient legislation-obeying robots - instead of, well, whatever this has been supposed to be. Having had enough of experts, I suppose. e: a take quote:Understanding how this catastrophe occurred is of critical importance – for it cannot be allowed to happen again. Some may be tempted to conclude that our leaders took their eyes off the ball momentarily. It is not an argument that stands up to scrutiny, however. In fact, the causes of this month’s dramatic surge in Covid cases have their roots in policy decisions made by a government that has shown itself obsessed with libertarian issues since the start of the pandemic. This obsession led it to consistently play down Covid’s threat to our health while constantly highlighting its potential to cause economic harm. ronya fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Nov 1, 2020 |
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communism bitch posted:He's sorted. He's just got to hang in till he reaches two years as PM to get his £100k a year pension, and then he can gently caress off for a consequence-free career making £50k a pop speaking engagements and a bunch of non-executive directorships where he's paid tens or hundreds of thousands a year for doing literally nothing. Everybody knows he's a loving lazy poo poo, and being Prime Minister will be the hardest he's ever had to work or will have to work. But he's sorted for life after this poo poo. You're missing the bigger picture. He's handed out literally billions of pounds to dodgy offshore companies and poo poo for "PPE" and various other poo poo. I'd wager he'll be getting a board of director position on some made up company and getting at least a few mil a year for the rest of his life. There might also be some links with some Russian oligarchs and stuff because he's obviously got matey with Trump and his cronies. I'm not saying "IT'S A RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY, PUTIN!!", just the same old crony/disaster capitalism poo poo which happens to include a number of rich Russians like Evgeny Lebedev. jabby posted:He was already set for life before he became PM, all he's done since is complain his salary has gone down. I don't think this has anything to do with money, it's all about power, one-upping his buddies from Eton and fulfilling his born-to-rule ambitions. I disagree. I think he is *entirely* about the money. He was set for life in that he never really had to work again, but he is just enormously greedy. He wants to live the lifestyle, yachts, private paedo islands, the lot. Becoming PM is the most surefire way to do an enormous raid on the public purse by funneling many billions of pounds off to friends, for some fraction to be repaid later.
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