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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Matt Hancock is the most incompetent piece of poo poo in the cabinet with the possible exception of Chris Grayling, who I include only because he has almost certainly locked himself in a cabinet as we speak.

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Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1323070044839026688

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Thanks to all for the advice. I did think these vultures didn't have a leg to stand on since the van had already been reported stolen, so I guess "See you in court, then" is probably the best response.

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

That sounds great, but what's the context of this? What were people working on that subsequently got destroyed? Why would people want to stop others from going into the woods?

Basically what other people have said but it boils down to "old folk hate kids". The woods were just a nice place for dog walking and a cheeky toke - old coal board land of which there is plenty round here. Then the school started using the woods for Forest Schools which led to kids playing there out of school time, which in turn led to families starting to congregate there. A lady who owns some land next to the woods modified the fences to her pigs/goats/chickens and made it our "animal park", she and I bought some picnic tables and bins (which we empty & look after), and it became "a destination". Over the past few years we've added a cargo net, tightrope, some log swings and we cut and board steps where needed, and sometimes hire a chipper and relay all the paths. Forest Schools dug a pond and built insect hotels, bivouacs, log circles etc and the woods are full of art pieces they've done. Some local "bad lads" borrowed shovels from our allotments and built a small BMX track, which they have maintained for several years. Someone mows the little meadow twice a year and mulches the wildflower beds, but none of my group know who takes care of that. Last year a family up on the estate were having a new kitchen, so a load of guys dragged the old unit to the woods and spent a weekend making it into a mud kitchen for the kids. It has become a little annual tradition that all the local stoners spend a day in the brook once a year, dragging out all the crap that accumulates there. The woodlands is the very definition of a community project (much to the annoyance of the council). Earlier this year we sent over 200 statements from local people (statements, not signatures) to the Parish Council stating how much the woodlands means to them and their families, what they have each put into it and what they get out of it. At the same time we did a FOI request to find out the terms of trusteeship, and it transpired that it was always "for the use and recreation of the village community." This means for years when the council clerk has been saying the main complainant has "a reasonable point" and warning us that we might get told we can't do anything but walk in the woods, they could have just told her no, you're wrong, gently caress off.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

stev posted:

I know the answer is lol England but how are these companies not routinely shut down and the responsible parties inprisoned/fined? All it should really take is one person refusing to pay and reporting harassment for the whole enterprise to come under scrutiny.

lol capitalism more like, as this sort of scum is definitely not limited to england. there's constantly a row here about a company called impark which runs all of these awful private parking lots, enforced, sometimes, by a literal organized crime ring of tow truck drivers (they tried to assassinate the lawyer taking them to task, forcing her to flee the country for months; when she returned, the cops were basically like, eh, just drop your case).

Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012
I wouldn't put my money on either boris or kier being present at the next election. Might be wishful thinking.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 17 days!
PEOPLE HUNTING IS NOW A THING LOL.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/business/farming/bloodhound-people-hunt-castle-acre-1-6911066

quote:

The couple had always dreamed of having their own hunt and, when they heard the master of the Isle of Wight Bloodhounds was looking to retire and find them a new home, it was too good an opportunity to turn down.

The activity of people hunting begins with the tracker dogs being introduced to a runner’s scent, before the latter is given a head start of 15 minutes to try and outwit the hounds.


Also the boxing day hunt is going ahead, but no observers will be allowed this year due to covid.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/norfolk-boxing-day-hunts-to-go-ahead-with-public-meets-1-6878468

Im sure they will respect all the laws and not revert to the "good old days".

Desiderata
May 25, 2005
Go placidly amid the noise and haste...

Sanford posted:

Basically what other people have said but it boils down to "old folk hate kids". The woods were just a nice place for dog walking and a cheeky toke - old coal board land of which there is plenty round here. Then the school started using the woods for Forest Schools which led to kids playing there out of school time, which in turn led to families starting to congregate there. A lady who owns some land next to the woods modified the fences to her pigs/goats/chickens and made it our "animal park", she and I bought some picnic tables and bins (which we empty & look after), and it became "a destination". Over the past few years we've added a cargo net, tightrope, some log swings and we cut and board steps where needed, and sometimes hire a chipper and relay all the paths. Forest Schools dug a pond and built insect hotels, bivouacs, log circles etc and the woods are full of art pieces they've done. Some local "bad lads" borrowed shovels from our allotments and built a small BMX track, which they have maintained for several years. Someone mows the little meadow twice a year and mulches the wildflower beds, but none of my group know who takes care of that. Last year a family up on the estate were having a new kitchen, so a load of guys dragged the old unit to the woods and spent a weekend making it into a mud kitchen for the kids. It has become a little annual tradition that all the local stoners spend a day in the brook once a year, dragging out all the crap that accumulates there. The woodlands is the very definition of a community project (much to the annoyance of the council). Earlier this year we sent over 200 statements from local people (statements, not signatures) to the Parish Council stating how much the woodlands means to them and their families, what they have each put into it and what they get out of it. At the same time we did a FOI request to find out the terms of trusteeship, and it transpired that it was always "for the use and recreation of the village community." This means for years when the council clerk has been saying the main complainant has "a reasonable point" and warning us that we might get told we can't do anything but walk in the woods, they could have just told her no, you're wrong, gently caress off.

I swear if there is one thing local coucils hate, it is genuine local culture. You see it again and again, in city and village, if a group of local people do something unique an interesting, from art projects to skateparks, mucic scenes to woodland walks... the local council will dispise it, and do their best to turf everone out and develop the space into flats.

Real culture is ofcourse when the council pays the brother of a councilors property-company, to redevelop the old corn exchange into glass an steel monstrosity of an arts-centre. Then pay another brother of a council member 70k a year to be the director, and the arts staff 17k a year to put on events, with miniscule budgets, with gratis tickets going to the council members ofcourse. That's cuture.

killerwhat
May 13, 2010

Sanford posted:

Community woodland

This is incredible wholesome and lovely. Congrats on getting the legal stuff sorted!

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/ashiinu/status/1322423371502530562

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


I think things went downhill with the council when one of the new members told me I could be legally notified that all activity needed to cease in the woods and I laughed and said I'm just some oval office mate but it's lovely that you think I'm in charge in some way. The other people there chuckled, he definitely thought he was being made fun of, and he's loathed me ever since. It's fine. I'm an easy person to loathe.

Edit: Actually, consider a man in his 30s who not only wants to be on a loving Parish Council but actively campaigns on a strong Tory platform and claimed to be "the only local councillor who can help get Brexit done." I want to be loathed by such a man.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Desiderata posted:

Real culture is ofcourse when the council pays the brother of a councilors property-company, to redevelop the old corn exchange into glass an steel monstrosity of an arts-centre. Then pay another brother of a council member 70k a year to be the director, and the arts staff 17k a year to put on events, with miniscule budgets, with gratis tickets going to the council members ofcourse. That's cuture.

This is no exaggeration, the number of job ads in my sector I see for "lighting technician" or "head of lighting" paying sub £20k is obscene. Or worse "multi-skilled lighting/sound/video technician". That's 3 jobs dammit! :argh:

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


Hope people don't mind but it might lift some spirits in these most horrible of times. At one point in the past few years the council wrote to one (single, elderly) woman giving her loads of poo poo about the woods and stating they had heard "many complaints, but little in support of the woods". That led to all the community statements and a friend of mine (knowing the council would read nothing we sent to them) made up a few images that us harder to ignore:

Pond:


Work party waiting for veggie sausages to cook:


Maintaining the stream:


Cargo net:


Picnic area (with big and little tables):


If you know the area don't loving dox me you weirdo.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Bobstar posted:

This is no exaggeration, the number of job ads in my sector I see for "lighting technician" or "head of lighting" paying sub £20k is obscene. Or worse "multi-skilled lighting/sound/video technician". That's 3 jobs dammit! :argh:

Rather puts into perspective me complaining about embedded programming jobs offering <25k for experienced people with a degree.

For some actual content, I was just on a train from Stansted (don't ask, I really had to fly somewhere) and I heard an elderly couple complaining about foreigners not speaking English.

There were only like 2 groups speaking what I assume is Romanian in a fairly packed carriage ffs, and more to the point it's a loving train from the airport of course there might be foreigners on it.

Really brought home I'm back in the UK again.

I wonder if they spoke the local language wherever they flew in from. Just zero self-awareness.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Nov 2, 2020

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Homeless people got the set up from number 2 going on in the woods owned by the water board in our area, only theirs is tarp rather than canvas, and they got some of those fishing chairs.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Meanwhile

https://mobile.twitter.com/garybrannan/status/1323234127643058180

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Sanford posted:

Hope people don't mind but it might lift some spirits in these most horrible of times. At one point in the past few years the council wrote to one (single, elderly) woman giving her loads of poo poo about the woods and stating they had heard "many complaints, but little in support of the woods". That led to all the community statements and a friend of mine (knowing the council would read nothing we sent to them) made up a few images that us harder to ignore:

Pond:


Work party waiting for veggie sausages to cook:


Maintaining the stream:


Cargo net:


Picnic area (with big and little tables):


If you know the area don't loving dox me you weirdo.

Looks really good.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1323077225017692163?s=19

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1323274084076134400?s=21

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Sanford posted:

the woods

what do you do about liability insurance etc for a setup like this?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

I took the Champagne tweet as tongue in cheek, not as a serious reply.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo


that Corbyn is a good joker, haha

Bobstar posted:

This is no exaggeration, the number of job ads in my sector I see for "lighting technician" or "head of lighting" paying sub £20k is obscene. Or worse "multi-skilled lighting/sound/video technician". That's 3 jobs dammit! :argh:

It's also great when the people hiring for this job don't really have an idea what the job entails so just guesses, then as the interviews go on they ask more and more specific questions that other interviewees have informed them of. I always get weird questions in an afternoon that make me wonder if the people interviewing me know what they're on about or not.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I took the Champagne tweet as tongue in cheek, not as a serious reply.

Yeah, it's a get fiscal tweet, it's all 8 or 9 layers of irony

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Trainchat: A dutch tram was saved by a whale statue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKfqvN8lnsA

Don't know if there's a metaphor to be had there, but that barcelona piano tweet is a great one for centrism.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Kind of astounded by the number of people int he replies who think this is real.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

justcola posted:

that Corbyn is a good joker, haha


It's also great when the people hiring for this job don't really have an idea what the job entails so just guesses, then as the interviews go on they ask more and more specific questions that other interviewees have informed them of. I always get weird questions in an afternoon that make me wonder if the people interviewing me know what they're on about or not.

Reminds me of when I needed MS Access specialists - HR basically sent over to me cvs of anyone who had used a form on Access created by someone else to input data, yet rejected the cvs of people who could design queries and forms (amongst many other tasks) which is what I needed!
Fortunately, I was expecting some cvs that I didn't see and asked HR to please send them over.

Also, one time when I was temping (had been there 2 years as a temp!) they had another go at advertising for the permanent post. In the 'requirements' my boss/HR had written 'must know shorthand'. I said "I've been here 2 years and I have never once needed shorthand. Why have you put it in there?" (bear in mind also that the permanent post was at a salary some £5k LOWER than I was getting as a temp). "It's useful for taking telephone messages" was the answer. :smdh: Sometimes I subbed for the director's PA and he would dictate letters, memos etc. Every single letter or memo contained the phrase "May I ask" so I just used to write 'M'. That's about as shorthand as it got!


Different subject: please explain "oval office" as used several times in the past few days on here!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I took the Champagne tweet as tongue in cheek, not as a serious reply.

Getfiscal is/was an sa poster who now writes satire for Harper's magazine

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Impressive that the magna carta authors had the foresight to include provisions covering soft play areas.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Different subject: please explain "oval office" as used several times in the past few days on here!

A development route that Microsoft eventually abandoned.

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 2, 2020

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

Sanford posted:

Community woodland stuff

Echoing killerwhat's post, this is a fantastic project and sounds awesome, well done!

Also (maybe it's against the spirit of the thing?) I'm certain you'd be able to get bits and pieces of funding to help support this if you so wished, even though the informal arrangements might make things trickier in the short run. Your mention of it being Coal Board land immediately brought to mind the National Forest, which has small grants available, but even if that's not the right location for you this kind of community grassroots thing will appeal to a bunch of different funding organisations (community! woodlands! education! active lifestyles! family recreation! etc etc). This post

Sanford posted:

Hope people don't mind...

is halfway to a small grants funding application already

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
I would totally take a couple hundos to hide in a tree for a few hours.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Sir Keith is at it again. Wasn't nationalised broadband just about as popular a policy as it could possibly be?

https://twitter.com/schneiderhome/status/1323274989366398977

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

TheRat posted:

Sir Keith is at it again. Wasn't nationalised broadband just about as popular a policy as it could possibly be?

No I think everyone thought it was stupid and impossible then we had a lockdown where all we did was play computer games, watch netflix and zoom each other and then everyone said it would be a really great idea and someone should have thought of it earlier.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


He's not going to bribe the electorate he respects us too much

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

TheRat posted:

Sir Keith is at it again. Wasn't nationalised broadband just about as popular a policy as it could possibly be?

https://twitter.com/schneiderhome/status/1323274989366398977

New labour blessed us with PFI. No poo poo reheated leftovers labour aren’t going to nationalise anything.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Soricidus posted:

New labour blessed us with PFI. No poo poo reheated leftovers labour aren’t going to nationalise anything.

Wasn't PFI a Major-era initiative that they never had time or political capital to implement?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Sanford posted:

Hope people don't mind but it might lift some spirits in these most horrible of times. At one point in the past few years the council wrote to one (single, elderly) woman giving her loads of poo poo about the woods and stating they had heard "many complaints, but little in support of the woods". That led to all the community statements and a friend of mine (knowing the council would read nothing we sent to them) made up a few images that us harder to ignore:
I enjoyed this. It reminds me a bit of a thing I read very recently about the private and the commons and technocrats measuring the wrong thing.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Your woods looks great sandford, that's a good praxis.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Neurolimal posted:

It's wild how garbagemen can strike for a few weeks and that becomes an eternally legendary tale of the danger of unions in the UK, whereas this ten-year stretch of tory rule has seen several mass die-offs and none of it will stick to their long-term reputation.

Not only that, the bin strike was 4 weeks long, and I'm pretty sure the Tories have forced a load of councils to scale back bin collections to one every 3 or 4 weeks.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Poppymas chat:

Guy on FB pointing out that noone, anywhere, has banned poppy wearing so far this year (as always).
One of the replies:



NOW I get this leaf angle business!

Another friend has posted a big pic of piles of poppies and says "we're now into the 2 week Remembrance period in Britain". Since when did it become a 2 week period?

Also:



I read that as Rebecca Long Bailey for a moment instead of Royal British Legion.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Nov 2, 2020

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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Another friend has posted a big pic of piles of poppies and says "we're now into the 2 week Remembrance period in Britain". Since when did it become a 2 week period?

It has always been 2 weeks. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

(I know 1984 references are a cliche now, but you teed me up so perfectly.)

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